brainwashed through loneliness only to be more lonely but also sexist now

They are victims as much as they are villains.

What do you think they should have done differently? I am excusing their behaviour but I want to understand what should anyone with no positive male role model do other than turn to the internet?

I find it crazy that I didn't really have any real male role models, but the media I turned to ended up being guys like Henry Rollins.

The "finding myself" period of my life pre-dated the existence of this manosphere/shallow-ass-masculinity shit, but the archetype has been around for far longer and there were plenty of slimy douchebags to look up to. Sometimes I wonder what spared me.

That’s what most people tend to forget, unfortunately.

And if they do have something to offer it's "you only want me for my status and money."

You got it. Alt right to Nazi pipeline = increased view time = increased ad revenue. Same with how Facebook ranked content that got people to give it an "angry" react 5x higher in the algorithm than a "like" at one point. Anger/hate drives engagement.

I actually got this solely in YouTube shorts, but without having viewed anything related to it. Every few Shorts I scroll through, I'm met with something plucked straight out of the alpha/sigma/HKV trashbin and I'm assuming it's because I likely got demographic'd. It frankly kind of pushed me away from the whole feature - not much of value was lost since a lot of Shorts are just teaser trash that gives you a portion of a story designed to drive you to the channel.

Oddly, my regular, non-Shorts recommendations are fine.

If you delete the video you watched it should help

I think you tubes algorithm looks for things that are new to you and then loads you up on that. For example, I had an event that has caused my tinnitus to spike and I found a 10 hour video to listen to while I work that helps mask it. Now my entire fucking feed is overrun by different coloured noises and quack/chiropractors telling me to pull my ears to heal my tomorrow

You might want to try deleting that video from your watch history. Idk if it actually does anything to the recommendations but definitely something to try.

Youtube will add things here and there to find you something new to binge on to stay on their platform. If you watch something a little, you'll be shown a couple similar videos. But if you watch a lot of that first video, you'll be bombarded with similar content like you were.

It's made me have to watch in incognito first, just so it doesn't screw up my Recommended.

Rachel Zeeeegler. Rachel Zeeeeeeeegler. What's she up to man? What's she doing?

Dalas, ¿verdad? Tiene el poder de hacer parecer razonables sus palabras para gente ignorante, aunque sean basura

What makes you think he is gay?

Nope, the funniest is his absent chin being desperately covered by suboptimal … whatever grows on it.

Such a romantic

bullshit. hating the world is just the easy way out, admitting you yourself are wrong is simply harder.

I've stopped believing that. I think there's plenty of support for them online; people like Mark Manson have been putting out great stuff for years. (His writings helped me through a lot of stuff.)

I think the main problem is that improving yourself requires admitting that you were wrong about some things, and apparently that's really hard to do for some people. Easier to blame it on the rest of society.

There are PLENTY of people who cares about young men. Many of them are just in REAL LIFE not on the internet.

Teachers and social workers at schools, classmates (yes, you can make friends with real people too.), FAMILY. Even if all that fails, many, many NGOs need more hands and would welcome any young men willing to volunteer. They just need to go there IN REAL LIFE.

Thank you for being reasonable.

As a young man, I found plenty of support in a variety of places. You just have to take a very small leap of faith and reject the asshole energy.

Some areas or fields have a difficult time reaching men, including young men, and it's not because they are not wanted. Let's take psychiatry, for example. Many people already believe psychiatry is nonsense; add to this the common idea that psychiatric treatment is for cowards—and that cowardice is mostly for women (because women can be many bad things, but men can't)—, and that's a recipe for men scoffing at the idea of visiting a psychiatrist (and a psychotherapist, by extension).

I've also heard people complaining about a lack of role models, but there are excellent role models. I hope I am not wrong about them, but I admire Stephen Fry, John Oliver, Keanu Reeves, Bill Nye... I also like many small influencers. Some of them talk about being a man with great insight, such as @watchfulcoyote on TikTok.

I cannot say with certainty how free these radicalized young men were to choose a better path than the one they are on, and it probably varies from case to case, but I know there were and are normal and decent people watching out for them.

Sneako and his "I'm a little teapot" lookin ass with those goofy ass ears. Holding a dickhead like him or the Tates up as some sort of goal to strive towards is synonymous with "rock bottom."

I get it - like I understand the mechanism behind why some younger dudes become infatuated with these figures. It's the same reason boomer housewives get into the Law of Attraction or why people who don't have a single fucking clue think Trump is going to fix everything if he could just get one more term in office... but I don't get it.

That is not necessarily true. People can and do change. Darth Vader was not born evil, after all.

I don't know about sexist but I imagine they always had the defect in their brain that causes them to be inconsiderate and difficult

Apparently he's some crazy tik tok "pick up artist"

Work motivation content is a funnel into this kind of content. You watch a whole short form video about someone talking about work ethic with the hashtag #motivation and you will probably start getting Peterson and Tate clips

If you don't know that you're ridiculous, you might never not be ridiculous. You might never know that the premises of your beliefs are absurd nonsense.

So yes. More ridicule.