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  • There's this strange resentment the rest of Germany has for Bavaria that I didnt realize was serious until I moved to Hesse.

    • My wife and I lived in Germany for 2 years. We went to Munich for a weekend and had an excellent historical walking tour across the city, provided for free by our hostel.

      During that tour, we learned that pretty much every stereotype Americans have for Germans (lederhosen, yodeling, beer and brats, etc.) are actually Bavarian culture, not German. And Germans are actually quite offended at the confusion we have between their culture and Bavarian culture.

      We also learned that Bavaria used to be quite wealthy and powerful, and intended to split off into their own independent nation at one time. But then Hitler set up shop there and made it his headquarters for the Third Reich. The city was absolutely decimated during WWII, and when the war was over, they not only had to rebuild from scratch, but also had to contribute to rebuilding the rest of Germany, as well as paying for war damages for Europe and all Allied nations, etc. Their wealth was pretty much depleted and their hope of being an independent nation was gone.

      • Bavaria was a very agricultural heavy state, that made a few things right in the last few hounded years. Bavaria has like every over German state a long and rich independent history. Only Bavarian nationalists dream of an independent Bavaria. Hitler joined the NSDAP in Munich and it was one of it's early strongholds. Most German cities were destroyed in WWII. Germany did not "pay" reparations, because they still had a lot of open dept from WWI. They paid with land, factories, infrastructure and forced labor. What the guide meant was probably the so-called "soli". It is a special tax that was levied from former Westgerman states to support former GDR states, which did not develop as much under the socialist rule. That tax was and is controversial and was changed to nowadays only applie to richer people.

        Bavaria was always a big state in german, that tries to play a special role. Especially their main party the CSU participated in German politics, while enforcing predominantly Bavarian Interests. These methodes were obviously anti democratic but only borderline illegal and forced the government to restructure the parliament.

        So yea. I grew up in Bavaria and I get why most Germans are quite annoyed with bavarians.

        It is the German Texas.

      • During that tour, we learned that pretty much every stereotype Americans have for Germans (lederhosen, yodeling, beer and brats, etc.) are actually Bavarian culture, not German.

        So for lederhosen, it's mostly true, although they're traditional in Austria too. Yodeling is Alpine culture and not specifically Bavarian, meaning it exists in Bavaria, in Austria and Switzerland. For beer, only weissbier is truly Bavarian; e.g. pilsener originated from Czechia, lager originated from Austria [til!]. And although there are Bavarian bratwurst variants, bratwursts are not specifically Bavarian. However, veal sausage (weisswurst) is exclusively Bavarian.

        And Germans are actually quite offended at the confusion we have between their culture and Bavarian culture.

        That is true. I think to some degree this confusion comes from the fact that so many Americans were stationed in Bavaria after WWII, so they only got to experience this part of German culture.

        [...] when the war was over, they not only had to rebuild from scratch, but also had to contribute to rebuilding the rest of Germany, as well as paying for war damages for Europe and all Allied nations, etc. Their wealth was pretty much depleted and their hope of being an independent nation was gone.

        I am not particularly versed in Bavarian history, but note that some Bavarians have developed a bit of a fetish portraying themselves as victims of injust decisions from on high. I would take that info with a grain of salt.

    • Until I started working for a bavarian company (I live in Hamburg), I didn't realize how warranted much of this resentment is. 😅

    • At least it isn't Bielefeld, amirite?

    • Antisemite Aiwanger, extensive preventative jail, attempts on dismantling state equalisation payments, lack of secularisation, decades-long opposition to queer legalisation, abortion, social security, asylum in general et cetera

      • Don't forget being the german state for beer and alcoholism, and being staunchly against legalizing cannabis because "OMG drugs", apparently. The CSU needs to be dismantled. Period.

      • Nah, those are too recent or too political, the resentment feels more cultural. Maybe the CSU fuckery when fielding ministerial positions counts.

  • I was surprised to find out that Patchy the Pirate is pretty hated, which is what inspired this thread.

    • I didn't like those bits as a kid, but I do find them nostalgic now

      I didn't know people hated it either

    • I had to look him up. I know the character (live-action pirate from SpongeBob SquarePants), but I didn't know he had a name. I was barely an adult when that show started airing, so I haven't seen much of it.

      I also found out that the actor who voices SpongeBob plays Patchy. Had no clue it was the same guy. I've never heard of any hatred for Patchy, though. Is there any reason in particular people hate him? Or is it just "enough with the live-action; let's get back to my cartoons!" mentality?

      • Some people found him and his segments annoying. I thought they were fun and iconic.

  • Soggy cereal. That's how I ate is as a kid and how my siblings did as well, mostly. No one ever said it was gross or the "wrong" way, until I got a bit older and found out that pretty much everyone hates it.

    I can't stand dry cereal lol.

  • Compassion and empathy for animals. Yeah, they say they like it if you don't have any follow-up questions, but things go downhill real fuckin' fast after that.

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