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US sanctions are illegal and should be "violated". They hold no legitimacy and are just a form of economic warfare.
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The UN, under the UN charter, already recognizes the US unilateral sanctions as illegal, but the US can afford to maintain them to this day—despite annual calls by the actual international community to cease such policies—because the USD has been the dominant reserve currency for a long time.
Now that the world is increasingly becoming more multipolar and regional-based, the US and their satellites, in Europe and Asia, are panicking.
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Capitalism is endless economic warfare, varying in intensity
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Lol, the cope is really getting out of hand. First it was "China can't domestically produce high end chips", now the talking point is "ok maybe they can but only cause they violated sanctions". Do they realize this is an admission that a) their sanctions aren't working, and b) that they have nothing to do with any "national security" but simply with a futile attempt to hamper a competitor nation's technological development because their own industries can't handle competing on an even playing ground.
Not that we as communists give a single shit about "free market competition", there is nothing wrong with a weaker nation using protectionist measures (although we must be clear about the fact that sanctions are not protectionism, they are the polar opposite, they are aggressive economic hybrid warfare) to prevent a stronger one overrunning their economy, but it shows the hypocrisy of their own neoliberal "free trade" mantra.
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It can quickly become a national security concern when you realize the people making the chips have total control over the systems built with them. Modern computing is built around the idea of "trusted computing" where certain pieces of hardware control the root of trust. There's also plenty of issues with backdoors (lookup intel ME if you're not familiar). The ability for the US to maintain its backdoors into foreign computing systems and preventing China from gaining that ability is the same cold war crap but in the cyber rather than the economic domain.
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Not that we as communists give a single shit about “free market competition”, there is nothing wrong with a weaker nation using protectionist measures (although we must be clear about the fact that sanctions are not protectionism, they are the polar opposite, they are aggressive economic hybrid warfare) to prevent a stronger one overrunning their economy, but it shows the hypocrisy of their own neoliberal “free trade” mantra.
My understanding is that the "free market" is to prevent foreign nations from developing their economies by means of import-substitution industrialization, for the sake of domestic monopolies taking over the foreign nations' economies, like a parasite, and turning them into rent-extracting hosts.
In that case, it's in the interests of all peoples of the globe to reject this form of neo-colonialism—not just communists.
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You're right but unfortunately it doesn't matter. The phrasing makes it SEEM like China did something bad, and that's the deepest most people who come across this headline will ever think about it. The goal is to make westerners ever so slightly more sympathetic towards aggression against the Chinese people, and these misleading or outright false articles are terribly effective.
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Before I read the article, I had thought that the US was angry over an American company violating sanctions and helping Chinese companies.
But, nope! The US is angry that Chinese companies are...helping other Chinese companies to achieve national self-sufficiency.
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The company being sanctioned violating sanctions is a headline I didn't expect to read. Usually it would be a company that is supposed to follow sanctions that would violate them. The sanctioned company would already be violating the sanctions by being the sanctioned company.
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Apparently, the problem is that US technology is present throughout SMIC operations; that, existing rules demand that companies that rely on US technology exports must seek prior consent before exchanging products that contain said technologies.
Regardless, it's a moot point. It's blatantly clear that the US is trying to suppress Chinese technological growth, so there's no long-term incentive to play by the US' rule.
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Oh no they have violated sanctions, how dare they
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The crocodile tears have been the best marketing for me. It's going to be way too expensive and probably hamstringed in the west but I still want one.
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Their phones are super cool. I actually have a matebook x pro laptop that's been awesome. At the time it had the specs of laptops that typically cost 30-50% more and a really nice design and 3:2 display
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When I have need of a new laptop a Matebook is definitely in the running.
In terms of smart phones I used to go through one every nine months or so. I'm not hard on them but something would just give up. I'm typing this comment on a five year old Mate 10 Pro which has got at least a year left if not more. I've had the battery replaced twice and the USB port once but other than those wear items it's a rock solid device.
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Same. That being said i won't be able to afford this high end model even if i do manage to find a way to import it, so i will just wait a few years until they make more mid range models with the same tech. Honestly it's no biggie, i've never been one to go in for the latest phone models and i don't really need a new phone right now anyway, my current one is several years old and still works just fine, and it's a Chinese brand too.
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If you issue sanctions, aren't you the one who has to make sure you can enforce them? Like you can say "China can't buy from US-based companies" or "our companies are not allowed to purchase from China".
But this is unilateral, China doesn't give a fuck about your sanctions. You placed them on them, it's your responsibility to make sure they're enforced. "Evading" sanctions my ass they're just doing business as usual, not their problem, not their responsibility.
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No, you see, communism is redfash so the evil tankie dictator would cooperate to make things worse for Chinese citizens because they’re an evil tankie dictator, so checkmate tankies
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Exceptions are given to the companies who have connections to the state. I recall during trump’s trade war, there was a list published of companies who are exempt from tariffs.
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The US international solution to everything comes down to sanction, coup and invasion
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This is so misleading, they think China violated sanctions because they cant accept that they can develop their own chips, so they mustve cheated!
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because China violated the ego of US
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When all you have is a reserve currency, everything looks like a sanction.
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Nooo why won't these people bend the knee? They should be thankful that we want to give them the freedom to be our slaves, the liberty of feeding on scraps that we'd feed them!!11
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“No organization or individual shall implement or assist the implementation of the discriminatory restrictive measures taken by foreign states against Chinese citizens or organizations.
If any organization or individual injures the legal rights and interests of Chinese citizens or organizations in contravention of the foregoing provision, the injured Chinese organization or individual may bring a suit before the people’s court seeking cessation of injury and compensation of damages pursuant to law. ” ——The PRC Anti-Foreign Sanctions Law (AFSL)
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chip fab go brrrrrrrrr
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until it suffers a catastrophic accident that's totally going to happen and then china will have to play catchup for at least ten years to reach the level that they're at now where, by then, they'll be far behind. lol
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Were the sanctions China can’t acquire chips at all even if they make it themselves?
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the sanctions were whatever we say shut up.
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Thought China produced the ultimate crisps for a second.
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China isn't capable of microprocessor manufacturing, these chips are from South Korea lol
And the phones come from the Netherlands. China doesn't make anything their own
