Reddit faces content quality concerns after its Great Mod Purge
Concerns of Redditor safety, jeopardized research amid new mods and API rules.
In response to concerns that the new r/homeautomation mod team could overlook posts with dangerous misinformation, the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit's sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn't know why.
Oh Lord
Thank God I wasn't the only one who went WTF. That's like one of the simplest things I learned as a mod in my first 2 days. You gotta update the sidebar twice for both versions of it. It's been over a month since they probably took over and they still don't know this.
I love this article but it also makes me sad like with the old r/canning mods pointing out the unsafe material the new mods left up.
Sadly, even before the mod purge many subs couldn't get that right. I don't know how many discussions I had over the years about things that appeared in the sidebar, only to find the other person was looking at a completely different version of it. New.reddit.com was a problem from the start.
To be fair, the amount of people automating their HVAC system with "a raspberry pi and a bit of python" in there with nobody batty an eye has been high long before the purge. Some people mess with everything they can without understanding any of what they're doing.
Dromio05 showed me several posts he deemed questionable since Reddit took away his own mod badge. For example, this post shares a link to an article about "rebel canners," which Dromio05 argues "gives a public platform to people who openly encourage methods and recipes that are known to be unsafe, like canning milk and open kettle canning." The post is labeled unsafe, but Dromio05 would have removed the link to the article.
Another cited example is this recipe for canned sauce. It includes already-canned tomatoes, which experts like the National Center for Home Food Preservation (NCHFP) recommend against, as there's no safe tested process for this. The recipe also includes nuts, though the USDA doesn't have any recommendations for canning nuts, and NCHFP and other experts advise against canning any nuts besides green peanuts.
No comment. Moderators are the key to Reddit's success, and they have been treated like shit and will continue to be treated like shit.
Jesus. I can from time to time, I used to be a regular on /r/canning. The attention to detail re food safety was one of the best things about the sub, as you really can kill yourself and others if you piss about.
Wow! Who knew when you kick your volunteer mods who curate content for you for free to the curb that overall quality would decrease?
I mean the article is just former mods repeating what you're saying, it's not like they're reporting anything new happening. Also includes some examples of stuff that is ultimately irrelevant for reddit as a platform, such as canning and electric garage doors.
Also includes some examples of stuff that is ultimately irrelevant for reddit as a platform, such as canning and electric garage doors.
That stuff absolutely is relevant, because having the right info for those things is crucial, because acting on the wrong info can literally kill you.
The reason why Reddit content is valued so highly by users (and search engines) is because it was seen to have some level of curation to it, due to the efforts of the volunteer moderators who took their "job" seriously. They felt that it was vitally important to weed out dangerous info. And that basic safety effort is likely all that is saving Reddit from a massive lawsuit once someone tries to fix their garage door the wrong way and dies.
It's like Reddit made a list of things that sane companies do to protect their brand and reputation, and made a point of doing the exact opposite.
If a single one of those niche subreddits disappears, the site will be fine. So, sure, you can argue they're individually irrelevant to Reddit as a platform, I guess. But Reddit having a vast collection of niche subreddits is what keeps the platform alive. Do you think people would be nearly as engaged in the long term if it was only world news, politics and memes? Those broad categories are going to have the widest appeal but they're not what a lot of people stay for. They stay so they can discuss their favourite TV show, the specific game they're playing right now, the niche hobby they're interested in, the particular celebrity they're weirdly obsessed with, that incredibly specific kind of porn that gets them off.
And there's a reason a lot of people add "reddit" to the end of their Google searches - there are all kinds of niche subreddits with information they're looking for about a particular issue they're having right now. If I'm having issues with my electric garage door, having a high-quality, well-maintained forum dedicated to the subject - filled with experts and knowledgeable enthusiasts - is exactly what I need, and Reddit had that.
Memes might have a broader appeal and be more monetisable right now, but losing all the niche subfora is something that will hurt Reddit in the long term.
It's relevant for Reddit as a home for niche topics, but maybe they're not interested in being that anymore
Yeah it's a weird article. "There's some misinformation on the internet!"
the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit's sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn't know why.
Wow this is the part that made me laugh the most. One of the first things I learned when as a mod was that you had to change the side bar in both old.reddit and the newer version since they both have different sidebars.
I never even realized that the loss of whole mod teams could make this simple feature unknown by the new team.
There are a huge amount of redditors these days who have no idea old reddit ever existed and the first time they heard of 3rd party apps was when Reddit announced they were pricing them out of existence. Naturally, a lot of those people are going to become mods now and their ignorance about fundamental aspects of the site is glaring.
This is only tangentially related but I started using reddit 13 years ago and the userbase has become increasingly unrecognizable in recent years. But what makes me truly feel like a dinosaur is seeing six month old accounts refer to reddit as "an app"... It's bizarre to me that so many people's exposure to reddit is limited to the worst way to possibly use the platform (the official app).
I remember Reddit 13 years ago and it really was a different place. The whole calling it an app was something that annoyed me too lol.
I also still remember my first reddit experience was BaconReader on the Windows 7 phone lmfao. I'm old.
what makes me truly feel like a dinosaur is seeing six month old accounts refer to reddit as "an app"
At least you haven't met people referring to the internet as "wifi" and didn't have a 16 year old say they "needed at least 8GB of memory on a laptop to store music" (this was about 6 or so years ago). They thought that the RAM specs (aka memory) was the same thing as storage on phones. I saw his brain melting when I tried explaining it to him and was confused by my saying "phones have both memory and storage, the same as a laptop or desktop".
Everything has been an app first for years now. Not sure when it switched.
Well yeah, when reddit just picks up whatever volunteers yell loudest, they don't exactly get experienced mods. Those people all left reddit already.
One of the mods on a sub I moderated got compromised, and the css of the sub got turned to cancer as part of a site wide attack.
I got a few PMs bringing it to my anttention and fixed it/demodded the culprit. A day later, I remembered new Reddit and saw that it was changed in the attack as well. Not a single one of the 1M+ subs brought it to my attention. Either they weren’t using new Reddit, or they didn’t care.
haha
I also have the feeling that the comments started to suck a lot more. It's starting to feel like comments on Youtube or Instagram, not like real people having a somewhat reasonable discussion about the topic.
Yep, interactions are definitely becoming more toxic. Indeed it starts to feel like youtube. I adopted Reddit at fisrt because of how friendly the community felt. That was 8-9 years ago and that time is clearly gone. Lemmy is nice, I hope it will keep growing.
I've noticed YouTube comments have actually become more positive (though still mostly useless). It seems YouTube has implemented some algorithm where it prioritizes "positive" sentiment comments above all. That's why all the top comments on popular videos are generic platitudes.
For example, go on any MrBeast video and read the top comments. They are all praising MrBeast for his videos and hard work. Finding any negative comment is difficult. On the other hand, if you go on a Reddit discussion about MrBeast, you'll find plenty of people complaining about him.
MrBeast is just an example, I'm sure we all have our own opinions about him but that's not the point I'm trying to make. In fact, the same is true for any popular YouTube channel. Even political channels, where you'd expect to see heated debates in the comments, mostly showcase top comments agreeing with the video.
The last thing I read before quitting Reddit for good was someone calling me a prick in a pinned post on my profile telling people to go to Lemmy. Needless to say, I'm not sorry I left.
Yep. I was casually talking about which country to move to for getting a master's in a computer science-related field and I got lambasted just because I mentioned that I graduated from fine arts, despite that I've explicitly mentioned that I was going to move away from that field anyway and that the programs I plan to move to allow undergraduates from any background.
because it's just made to make you upset somehow. the cynical nature of reddit is x100 now
Wow, ive been away for a bit. I heard AITA is gone sour, (rspash havn a good time i guess) what else?
I can't put my finger on it, but I think there's been an uptick also in posts purely in the form of increasing engagement. Safe 'bets' on getting responses (i.e. ++ to AskReddit), remarkably bland headlines, and just shit that reminds me of controversy of the "jumpstart" of automated bots they used in the earlier days.
A lot of suspicious "wholesome" posts on all, too. Seems like an astroterf to make the whole thing more digestible.
I've been half turn between blaming spez for that, trying to keep "engagement" numbers up so he can IPO and walk, vs blaming karma bots. And then I thought, "Why not both?"
Mods weren't ever supposed to anybody but janitors. That isn't in a derogatory tone. The anonymous userbase was the original value proposition of reddit. The expertise came from random nobodies. Usernames didn't matter on reddit because nobody looked at it. It seems this is long forgotten history from a time when the internet was primarily IT nerds.
By the time mods were becoming somebodies, reddit was past its prime. Once the power structures started forming it was over. As we're seeing now reddit is hinges on single point of failure. The expertise among the userbase has gradually left the platform long before this API stuff. A long slow process years in the making.
Internet janitors are a dirty but necessary job not unlike the real world. Somebody has to scrub toilets and pick produce. People are a-holes on the internet who need to be put in their place. Reddit has long since become too hoity-toity for that. Now mods are supposed to be experts in their field. Too high to be digital toilet scrubbers. Too scared of "muh free speech" to janitor the Greater Fuckwads anymore. So reddit is an asylum run by the inmates. Expertise can't be assed to contribute to a dumpster.
On another note. The imgur purge has also contributed to the barren wasteland of reddit content history. So many dead posts.
But you can't be a 'janitor' on a sub like r/canning without understanding canning. You can't know who is posting unsafe information unless you know what is unsafe. That's the problem.
Thank you for using canning as an example. This is a excellent choice because it is a situation where people think they know what they're doing and they are just basically posting recipes for botulism. On Facebook there are the rebel canner groups and in those groups you're not even allowed to mention the word of botulism or the mods will ban you. Because even warning somebody that something is unsafe goes against those communities standards. Canning is a prime example of where the admins have to have actual knowledge to pull off the job.
Isn't that similar in real life? Taking care of the elderly and sick, firefighting etc. are or have very specialised 'janitor'-like tasks that need specific knowledge.
It is more that Reddit wanted its moderators to not be anyone important, especially under the current CEO. Ditching the default subs, firing Victoria, heavily maiming r/all, and other actions were geared to prevent mods from gaining power over Reddit. On the flipside, Reddit maintained the mod ranking based on when a mod joined specifically to keep communities from forming more legitimate methods of mod selection.
Mods were supposed to be weak while being scapegoats for Reddit in case something went wrong.
They became the equivalent to automated customer service lines. Nothing but bots with no humans available to address concerns. Any attempt to contact a mod generally resulted in an arrogant reply.
the free speech argument doesnt really make sense as reddit was founded on being "the last bastion of free speech"
Free speech versus civility. Say what you want but don't think you won't get punched in the face for being an asshole. On the internet you should absolutely be able to get punched in the face. The virtual version of that is being modded. Which is apparently tantamount to human rights violations these days so mods have had to walk on eggshells. It's no wonder the old guard have been leaving in droves.
There was never a time in the past when you wouldn't receive a digital face punching for being an ass. As time went on people started giving up on reddit. Especially mods who cared to foster communities people wanted to use. Mods became glorified bot operators. "Automated customer service lines" as someone else said. And so the trolls have completely run amok on that platform. Usually there is no getting hold of a real human moderator. Other times they're so checked out they themselves get trolled into banning anyone but the griefers.
Every couple of weeks I come back and check lemmy to see if the top post isn't about reddit. Not yet.
I'm fine with this - many of us were on Reddit for over a decade and had to cut cold turkey when they killed the site. We're here hoping Lemmy will replace it, so feels natural to speak of the old "shell" site.
Yeah, it always feels like asking about an ex girlfriend. I want to not care, but it's difficult not to.
Also, whether or not one uses reddit/twitter/Facebook, the state of social media is worth discussing, its important.
Sir this is !reddit@lemmy.world
That, plus articles from Ars Technica discussing Reddit generally get a fair bit of traction on this community because it's a semi-big name publication discussing Reddit in a negative light, which further confirms the stance most users on Lemmy already have about Reddit
Do note, though, that the parent company that owns Reddit also owns Ars Technica.
It's one of the biggest trash fires of the century, watching petulant fuckwits tear down functionally competent institutions and replacing them with nazis, spam and sockpuppets. certainly deserves the attention it's getting.
great job musko and spez, you idiots
Hey, one man's narcissism is another man's testing the effect of accelerated decay in Fortune 100 companies. Maybe their grandfathers left them a Brewster's clause in their wills. You never know!
That's a bit misleading. This is the first top post about Reddit in quite a while; it's nothing like it was here a couple of months ago.
I've been off Facebook for >5 years now but I still comment on news about fb
Subscribe to different communities. Most posts I see are politics, racecars (until I blocked it) and non English communities (until I block them)
Scrolling through all posts is fine. Communities are not (outside of memes).
I did a bit to try to keep up !league@lemmy.ml but it felt like I was posting to no one. Got basically no engagement. I stuck with it for a few months, because I understand the Catch 22, but it didn't seem like it was going anywhere anytime soon.
For league, at least, Reddit is the only option. I doubt it's the only community in that position.
It's not like it's overrunning !worldnews or something. This is !reddit. You can block it.
It's almost like we all used to use reddit like 2 months ago so are interested what's happening with it, crazy
Hang on, sometimes a Linux sub will post something about how they hate Windows.
On your Subscribed feeds? Because this is literally the fuck Reddit community you're looking at and if you don't want that filter it.
To be fair, the content quality on Lemmy has been about the same from what I've seen.
Bots all over the place, low-effort quips instead of discussions bubbling up, lots and LOTS of low-quality armchairing, personal attacks and flaming instead of actual discussion....etc
It was good for a month or so during the reddit 3rd party app purge, but quickly went downhill.
My experience has been almost nothing but positive. A few snarky replies, but 99% positivity and good discourse otherwise.
I think it's a bit of both. Content itself is pretty lacking tbh - and I say this as someone who hasn't exactly contributed any quality content, but I have definitely enjoyed the overall community, it reminds me a lot of reddit 10 years ago tbh.
Yea but like Lemmy is a bunch of hobbyists running on donations. That’s not saying much for Reddit.
Did you try some of the smaller instances? Big instances will inevitably face the same problems that Reddit has/had. A platform is as good as it's users, and you can only moderate up to a certain point untill it becomes straight up censorship. Sadly more people also means more trolls and shitposters.
But yeah it's still annoying and I fully agree with what you said.
I haven't had anything remotely like this when sticking to my subscribed communities.
God the quips became so popular and incessant it was really annoying. The comment used to be a good source of relevant information and there were some really funny people in there but now it seems to be drowned out by the same one liners or bots.
I'm on lemmy.ca on a bunch of Canadian communities and it's not like that at all.
Yes some communities have been under attack by bots and people posting CSAM but otherwise it's been pretty civil.
I agree with this. There's some problems that need to be addressed. Hopefully sooner rather than later
Truthfully hexbear has a lot to do with it. Could use a fediverse purge of that level of shitposting
I'd say .world has been the most reddit-like for me. Overall it's still good here but I'm also looking forward to it simmering down for a while.
I haven't actually noticed hexbear at all and I'm on an instance that isn't defed
Look at the quality of mods they're getting.
The r/diving subreddit got a mod who claim to be an avid diver with 21 dives across 7 oceans. And the subreddit drama link
That mod is hardcore powertripping, lol. Why do people get so puffed up for being essentially forum janitors? At least 4chan mods could take it on the chin when the community made fun of them. Reddit mods have the thinnest skin and the arbitration skills of Judge Dredd.
That user is the alt of a well-known troll. They know exactly what they're doing.
I'm still not convinced that the /r/diving mod wasn't trolling the admins with that post.
It's Esne. They were.
Probably the best written article I’ve read on this subject. All concerning things in the article that Reddit absolutely doesn’t care about. Canning milk? What the fuck.
Edit: I forgot that condensed milk is a thing…wondering if people can make it at home?
Mmm. Nothing I like more than a 5-year-old can of milk.
Ah yes, the 2018. That's a good vintage. Aromas of pestilence and disease overwhelm the nose. An enticing menagerie of dumpster and botulism coats the palette with a subtle finish of garlic sharts lingering between sips. A pronounced effervescence from years of fermentation leaves a most pleasant mouthfeel. 95/100
I think you can make sweetened condensed milk at home but not safely preserve it. Have you noticed there's no shelf stable normal milk? There's no dairy products on the shelf on the Welch's aisle. Even given industrial equipment, the best you can do is evaporated milk.
Insert pikachu face
I think I've seen this effect. Felt a bit smug when I saw a post of r/linux talking about how the quality of the posts was so poor after the "reddit migration".
I've noticed it too that the quality of posts in certain subreddits I cared about just felt a lot more 'empty'. Which is both good and bad. Good cause Reddit got what they deserved and people stuck to their morals by dispersing to more federated communities across the web; but I also feel a tad sad that the subreddit championing a vision I want to see that took a long time to get there is now gonna leave a way pooer impression on anyone looking to join.
But eh, I'm not sure many if any people's mind on trying out Linux were decided due to a reddit post before. ( Feel free to tell me otherwise if I am wrong on feeling. )
it's ok.
spez said revenue isn't affected, so he got what he wanted. he doesn't give that much of a shit let me tell you
The purpose of reddit is to keep people engaged while seeing ads. That's it.
100% correct. It's a powerful illusion because back in the day it was a real site with real people on it. It's taking some folks a long time to pick up on this.
There is almost no real content on there. If it's not a bot / AI, it's some shill with an agenda. It's all about the ads and clicks.
Replace "reddit" with any free service. Welcome to the Internet.
And before you "ackshually Lemmy" me, someone is paying for it. Perhaps even you, if you've donated to your home instance.
People donating aren't pushing shitification in search of profits though...
The Fediverse - being "free as in beer" rather than "free because you're the product being sold" is different.
It's different because it costs somebody money. If you're being an asshole on commercial social media, the company has financial incentives to keep you around. You're bringing in more eyeballs.
If you're being an asshole on a Fediverse server, it costs an admin something. They have to deal with complaints. They have potential reputational loss or defederation for their server. The server that they pay for!
Admins are paying for the server, so they must decide: is all this bullshit worth it? Is it something they really believe in and stand by with their real money and energy?
I think that changes the calculus of assholes, bots, and Onlyfans on social media.
I've noticed a huge increase of ragebait AITA posts every time I check the front page. They're all pretty similar - disowning a child or deciding not to attend a wedding. And people fall for it every time. It's kind of sad to see one of the smartest places on the internet turn into social media junk food.
The people replying might be bots too.
Umm, reddit readers, most never even acknolaging the exodus situation publically, began to really bug me. Knowing this, your words now stronger than ever throw into question their nature because:
people fall for it every time
That likely means both audences and creators. AITA is almost completely hyperreal now. Few non fictional interactions exist anymore. Was it always like this?
What's reddit?
I hear it's kinda like Digg
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Faces?
Something about putting things in cans
Is that why 90% of everything is the same unfunny reposts from 80 years ago now?
So nothing's changed then?
Due to the lack of visible karma, people repost way less on Lemmy than on reddit.
No, this is business as usual for Reddit
I know we all are in rage about reddit’s fuckery, but this says nothing about the state of the website.
we already knew reddit was not the objective truth or wikipedia, but mostly an echo chamber. incrementing the check on the information objectivity will NOT hamper reddit’s growth. we’ve already seen other social media thrive without the weight of fact-checking or their intended purpose (facebook, instagram, I’d dare to say the new twitter as well).
I as all of you would love to see reddit bomb so badly that they’ll all end unemployed and spez under a bridge sleeping with cardboard sheets, but that’s not going to happen soon.
we should stop looking at how badly is reddit doing, and start watching at how to make Lemmy a better reddit instead.
I don't even think about Reddit anymore. Let it fade into obscurity.
Yeah I haven't been back once since they blocked Sync. Hopefully it rots and dies, just like Digg before it.
Yea. I felt like the article was just nitpicking about not much change at all. Just past mods reminiscing? The nut graph of the write up was not great to begin with and the body wasn't really news...
Turns out purges make everything shittier
Your gif flew away...
Oops! There's nothing here. For GIFs that DO exist, here's our trending feed...
how bout that IPO now?
Avoid reddit drama with one simple trick:
Add this to your hosts file
127.0.0.1 .reddit.*
I can now access my print spooler from reddit's site WOAH /s
Whoa, that's udderly amazing! Maybe reddit's just trying to print out some mooo-rning news for the herd? 🐄📄
I had gotten banned over some stupid bullshit near the end of the drama, after i had already been posting here too, and was like 'yeah fuck it.'
Just a few days ago I couldn't resist making a new account simply because of how slow this place is and how often it goes down. Reddit is, absolutely, 500% worse then it ever has been. I'll go with much less content and random outages.
and how often it goes down
You can choose instane that doesn't go down often. That's entire point of fedi.
Yeah... I took a few looks recently and it is definitely a hot mess. One of the meme subs that I used to go to has devolved into just outright porn disguised as a "meme". Lemmy also has, at least from personal experience, less overall hostility/toxicity. It's a nice reprieve from the never-ending attacks on reddit.
Doesn't Reddit automatically ban any new accounts you make after any of your accounts are banned?
They want to kill the site and license the data. Same with Twitter. It’s the only explanation that makes sense based on what they’re doing.
Nah I think twitter's hit job is more to benefit the people musk owes money.
::CoughsaudisCough:: sorry, should get that looked at.
We find that our deeply engaged users are quick to challenge and downvote harmful or misleading content across the platform.
Yeah, right.
All 7 of them. The other 993 will upboat it for having a meme in the comment
They forgot the "unless it supports their bias" part.
I wonder what will happen if I fire my volunteer work force
You can't fire me, I quit!
Personally I just stopped going to Reddit and don't even check the mod queue. I'll let it burn to the ground.
reddit is rage fuel. i'm so glad to be done with it. it seems everything written there is driven to make you upset or your day worse somehow.
Hate to say it, but Feddy verse is no different.
Nowhere is safe from the shrill endless war of shitty middle class Americans with nothing better to do than stink up every available channel with whatever you dumb shit politics they refuse to shut up about.
NGL it totally depends. For general news/politics etc yeah.
Some of the more niche subreddits....Its definately much less of that and some of the folks that have been around, arent using default subs. My "home page" looks severely different from the default.
Dunno if this is related but for the first time in my life I've been receiving spam PMs on Reddit in the last few weeks... Very annoying
I've gotten some too, which is funny because all my accounts were "deleted"..
It started happening to me not long before Apollo going dark. I went from never getting a single chat request to 4-5 porn bots daily.
I have been getting onlyfans bots in my dms last few weeks as well.
There are tools to automate that
Delete your account
That's their fault
after I got banned from Reddit Admins for single reporting racist comment I decided its best time to leave. i am not going to bow to that racist scum. https://imgur.com/a/8B2dlSQ https://imgur.com/a/ctET6Rb
As per your screenshot & the contained link, you reported this comment as racist?
There them privileged white folk at it again, causing atrocities left and right. Love them that lack of culture.
It sounds to me like you got banned for a good reason, because that was an abuse of the reporting tool.
Reporting a racist comment isn't "abuse".
Even if you think racism is OK if it happens to be against a group you hate, it's still not justifiable to ban someone for bringing it to the the attention of the administrators.
That would achieve nothing except make people afraid to alert the mods.
Thats a bad outcome no matter what.
Hi @raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world , would you be so kind and elaborate about, how comment that is aimed on group of people based purely on their skin color is not racist and therefore reporting of it should be punished as it was? I say, it is misusing admin, or mod privileges for sake of spreading hatred against that specific group of people. All people should treat each other equally and nobody should banning people that fight racism by only option they have (had) on that platform, ergo reporting that.
there is a difference between racism and prejudice. that comment is prejudiced but not racist. if white was replaced with black then it would be racist, bc there is an inherently power structure in play meant to create more economic and social opportunities for white people.
I really wish more people understood this 😭
Second one here, the top comments are completely empty! Its odd really
Safety does not matter as much as money and being able to turn a profit. $50 over 5 lives.
Delete your account
I haven't deleted mine for one simple reason. I plan to go back in and change all my comments to say the same thing (so long and thanks for all the fish). I'll be damned if I'm gonna let them use my comments to sell for money to people willing to pay the high API costs to train whatever comes after chatgpt. Because if I'm honest it wasn't about screwing over the third party app developers. That was an added bonus for Spez. He has this repository of internet currated data on millions of subjects getting scraped by every company wanting to train a generative AI. Sure he wanted to drive engagement on the official Reddit app. But that's still not gonna net him more money than licensing that data for this use case. And he's willing to sacrifice the site quality as a whole to get it.
Hahaha GTFO you trying to claim the previous mods were experts?
Lots of both bad moderators and bad moderation to go around, however:
and
In contrast, in the case of this latest shakeup, mods are appointed, have no attachment to the community or the subject matter, let alone to the way things were done before. Further, this has happened mostly on major subs and very quickly, which didn't leave time for alternative communities to organically form to accommodate the departing user base.
The power tripping mods didn't leave or care. The ones who built communities were the ones who need tools on their phone to mod
They had tools to help them that reddit took away. They also kicked the mods that actually cared about the communities they moderated. They were replaced by people who simply wanted the job of moderator despite the mistreatment of previous mods.
They were no experts but there was a lot of experience and goodwill in the moderation of the various communities that was simply wiped out for the sake of profit.
Is there really a community named reddit here? I came here to not be on reddit...
Some people like to watch the news, some people like to stop and look at car accidents... some people like to watch reddit.
This community has a low enough volume that when I notice it, it's interesting.
Better to keep it contained. You'll see the same article posted to less specific communities. Ideally it would all be here and you could just block the whole community.
You could block the community (I think - we can certainly do that on kbin, not sure about lemmy).