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Reddit users are reporting Christian websites for violating Virginia's new porn identification law, citing vulgar passages in the Bible

www.insider.com Reddit users are reporting Christian websites for violating Virginia's new porn identification law, citing vulgar passages in the Bible

People are using Virginia's porn age verification law to flag Bible.com for adult content.

Reddit users are reporting Christian websites for violating Virginia's new porn identification law, citing vulgar passages in the Bible

As more and more states pass laws targeting "pornographic material" in books and online, they are repeatedly running up against a problem: The Bible has not just a few passages that could be considered indecent

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The Davis School District initially removed the Bible from school libraries after a review determined it did include "vulgar" content. But the school board unanimously reversed its decision after a review by an appeal committee determined the text has " significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains," the AP reported.

There's no hypocrisy here.
- Selective enforcement is the core of conservative law making.
  
  Broad generalizations like this do nothing but reinforce echochambers.
- does the law allow a school board to override the law? That seems odd.
- We all knew they were gonna figure out a way that the law doesn't apply to them and the stuff they like. That's like the fundamental constant of conservatives, it's different when we do it because we're not those people.
  
  “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” –Francis M. Wilhoit
- Porn just needs some inspirational quotes to go along with it.
  
  Porn just needs some inspirational quotes to go along with it.
  
  Love thy Neighbor, as you would love yourself.
  
  Fuck yeah, spread it
- TBF understanding that horses are known for their voluminous ejaculation is critical knowledge for children.
  
  God is a brony confirmed
- Time to start giving the kids leaflets that highlight all the Communist teachings of Christ. Use The Bible to radicalize the youth!
  
  Betcha they yank the book, tout suite.
  
  They'd just lie and say the pamphlets are twisting Jesus' words and use that as a pretext to ban the pamphlets.
  
  Cognitive dissonance is a helluva drug
  
  Well, church leaders have been reporting that the sermon on the mount (or whatever) is being criticized as woke. Maybe there's something to this idea after all.
What's Reddit?
- A proprietary, for-profit version of Lemmy
  
  You forgot shitty version of Lemmy.
  
  Ew, sounds gross and like one greedy cunt can ruin everything. Pass
  
  I hope it doesn't catch on
  
  Weird, why would they want to make something like that?
  
  When have they ever made a profit?
  
  reddit.club
- Old stuff, like a digg or something.
- A social media platform we don’t talk about because Fuck u/spez
- Some sort of mollusc.
  
  Don't bring us into it.
The Davis School District initially removed the Bible from school libraries after a review determined it did include "vulgar" content. But the school board unanimously reversed its decision after a review by an appeal committee determined the text has " significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains," the AP reported.

Now to challenge the "significant, serious" value. Truth before law is based on facts, right?
- Upthread I suggested leaflets that use chapter and verse to highlight the Communist teachings of The Christ. Radicalize the youth using The Bible!
  
  Betcha they yank the book, almost immediately.
- What value? It has none. Zero.
That law is a complete waste of time. It's inevitable its going to be overturned (if theres at least a shred of common sense in the Virginia courts)
- The majority of porn sites don't even bother trying to comply with laws like this and there's nothing state governments can do about it.
  
  Yep, sites that wish to comply with the new regulation simply block traffic from those states. Search results for VPNs increase sharply for a few days and nothing really changes.
  
  Laws arn't that easy to pass, makes you think if that effort was put into something constructive instead of reinforcing that prohibition doesn't work...
  
  What does the law actually do?
- They'll appeal to the Trump SCOTUS.
Deuteronomy 28:53-57, where you eat the flesh of your own children seems kinda indecent
- Less indecent if it's remnant from the days of a famine.
  
  A mistake a lot of people make in analyzing the text is in assuming the official story about its origin, contents, and authorship is correct outside supernatural stuff.
  
  But there's actually a compelling case Noah was originally a story about escaping a famine, so there may well have been a period when eating the flesh of one's children was a part of the ancestral history of the people transmitting the stories.
  
  The Geeks have similar stories.
  
  It may well be that Deuteronomy 28:48-57 isn't a warning about a certain future event, but a warning from similar things having happened many times before.
  
  Eating your family because an army whose language you don't even know is sieging your city and you are all starving is probably just a fairly common part of many generations of history around the world during those times.
  
  There's much worse things in the Bible than likely representative history.
  
  The Geeks have similar stories.
  
  I'm sure they do, especially in their D&D Campaigns.
  
  Fair, but you’re looking at it from a good faith perspective that examines the spirit of the “law” for want of a better term, rather than the literal meaning of it, as I did. That was a deliberate glibness on my part because I wanted to examine and interpret it in the same way that the bible apologists and literalists do in order to cherry pick passages in the bible to further their hateful idiot agenda. You can find and interpret both support and condemnation in the bible for anything, often in the same passage depending on who’s reading it. Thanks for the interesting link!
- Or pretty much all of Song of Solomon.
  
  Example (Song of Solomon 7:6‭-‬9):
  
  How beautiful you are and how pleasing, my love, with your delights! Your stature is like that of the palm, and your breasts like clusters of fruit. I said, “I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.” May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. May the wine go straight to my beloved, flowing gently over lips and teeth.
Reddit still has users?
- Unfortunately not only is Reddit still chugging along, Lemmy is slowly losing users.
  
  Growing new communities is very hard and takes a long time.
  
  EDIT - Adding my source
  
  It sucks to get to the end of social media. On Reddit I could always find plenty of posts with hundreds of comments and many were worth reading or replying to. Lemmy absolutely has good content and good comments, but you can get to the end where there's no more. It probably doesn't help that I've been much quicker to block people over the cut of their jib. I don't come here to argue or hate people more than I already do, so I spend a lot less time and words embroiled in pointless conflict.
  
  But I still haven't been back to Reddit and won't. When I get to the end of content I find myself going to TikTok or Instagram - two things that I've never liked but at least it's a stress free way to kill time, just louder.
  
  Is Lemmy losing users or are people finding the one stable instance they like. I have 5 different accounts and I'm only on world for the most part now. It looks like 2 of them are lost users because I never sign in.
  
  Welp it's what happens when people love being controlled
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!!
Judges:19 where a guy throws his side piece to a crowd that wants to rape him in hopes they’ll be satisfied with raping her instead.
- TIL a concubine is a side piece. Somehow that never connected before.
I miss Crazy Bible Stories on New grounds...

So much drunken incest...

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/372088

Mirrors since they died awhile ago: Censored dong still makes me sad. https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0nkyN_wsaTSNAQVlACFTg-br8pP1RooA
Ah time to quote from Eziekel 23:20...
- The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish, and the tyranny of evil....wait...23:20? Oh. Well nevermind then.
  
  Now I kinda want to hear Sam Jackson say "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."
  
  Also, why the need to specify a distinction between donkey genitals and horse semen? Do horses or donkeys have bigger cocks? Do horses or donkeys cum more? I don't know, but whoever wrote that passage into the Bible seemed to know.
- Is that the one with Donkeys and Stallions? Hot stuff.
As they should.
Spez may be a hurensohn but at least Reddit users still have their heads screwed tight.
Has someone started reading the other source books? They can't be perfectly clean either.
Reddit against religion. Hand me the popcorn.
- "Where do I sign up?"
Excellent
Reddit for all of its faults and hideous admin team always did have a marvellous sense of humour. Only thing I miss about it.
- this is such a big chungus pog moment, wholesome 100
there shouldn’t be a fucking bible in a school library anyway, that’s so bonkers. is there also a torah and a quran? BET FUCKING NOT.
- Idk what libraries you go to but the ones I know have most religious books
  
  my public highschool library did not feature any religious texts, the regular library has plenty though.
- Nah fuck that noise. Banning books from libraries is dumb
- There should be a bible, along with every other religious text they can get their hands on. The problem arises when they ONLY have bibles in the library
  
  And put them in the "fiction" part
- Well you see, the quran teaches evil and radicalizes children (teaches rules, changing between positive and negative tone, kinda outdated but some generic stuff still applies today) while the bible teaches us how god loves us (teaching overlapping with the quran, different writing though and yahwee is definitely not nice)
- imho libraries shouldnt have any religious books , if you want to read them either buy it yourself or go to the temple/ mosque / church / synagogue .... and I am writing this as a religious person myself
  
  I actually disagree as an atheist. I'm fine with religious books being in a library as long as all religious texts are relegated to the same area and no single religion is given preferential treatment.
  
  They are a part of our culture and history, whether we want it to be or not.
  
  I disagree.
  
  Libraries contain books people want to read.
  People want to read religious books.
  Libraries should contain religious books.
  
  Libraries should please the reading needs for as many people as possible.
  
  And I am not religious in the slightest.
  
  Btw libraries are a very useful resource for research.
Bueno
Le reddit moment
Just a few passages doesn't even begin to describe it: Source
I initially read this as "Viagra" and was highly confused.
Can people please respect others' religions? Please? There's a lot of hate in these comments and it makes me really sad to see this frequently on Lemmy.
- Respect is earned
  
  Respect is a word that is used in multiple contexts.
- I don't really see it as hypocrasy. While people reporting it are most likely against religion, why woudn't religious text be a part of the nudity ban?
- What do you expect from a predominantly left-wing social media platform? Respect isn't in their nature. Being a centralist means seeing both sides of hypocrisy, and whoo boy does the left show a lot more.
  
  They wouldn't dare call out Islam for something like this or worse :\
As a Christian person, people hate the truth. They don't want nothing to learn what is the truth. Even Christian person also hate the truth and ending up the pastor to jail for something he did not commit. Its only aboutgettingr rid of him.
- 💀
- You sound like you’re on your way to being incarcerated for touching children without their consent. Please stop touching children without their consent.
  
  Children can't give consent. So don't touch children inappropriately ever.
- The problem is the question of where is the proof of your beliefs. Most Christian’s tout that the Bible is the truth yet no one can prove the “truth” of the Bible. It’s always a case of “look around you see the blues skies and the trees and the flowers etc. that does not prove god is real, nor does it prove he isn’t.
  
  The fact of the matter is what you want to believe is the truth, the inherit problem is that most Christian’s believe they have to push their beliefs on others whether they want it or not. It even gets as far as stating if you are a specific religion,such as Methodist, baptist etc, you’re not a true believer.
  
  I have found in my 50+ years of living that most people are hateful if you don believe exactly what they do.
  
  There is a common anecdote about the divide between what is considered the truth in science and religion: An evolutionary biologist and a creationist are in a debate. The moderator asks what would need to happen for them to abandon their beliefs. The evolutionary biologist lists the main pillars of the evolution theory and the formation of life, and that if they are disproved or found contradictory in a credible and replicable way, backed up by other scholars in the field, then they would have no choice but to accept that they were wrong. The creationist simply says "nothing, I know in my heart that it's the truth because God is all powerful and would never lie to me."
  
  You can say the same about the radical side of the LGBT community.
- I wouldn't have a problem if people like you could just mind your own business, but you spend your time rambling incoherently about some "truth". The only truth about Christians is that they are being manipulated by a group of nutcase fascists.
- What truth is that?
- Found the pastor that likes to diddle little kids 😬
- Bro what is this grammar?

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