What is the worst scenes in all of star trek?

I actually thought this was the best episode. Not enough lizard sex scenes in star trek.

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Shaka, when the walls fell.

This was definitely going to be my answer too

Either that or just...all of Sub Rosa.

Ah yes the African planet. Real TOS reject episode vibes.

What's hilarious is the same writer got away with the same episode in SG1s first season just with Asians rather than Black people.

Shut up Wesley!

I have tried watching TNG and just can't. I keep being told to bear it for like 3 seasons till it gets better, but I'm not gonna slog through entire seasons, hoping it improves

All Kess and/or Neelix episodes belong on that list. Can't stand either character, although Kess is still way worse than Neelix

Right, Kes is like 4 years old then

Haha, i have prepared you some gellllll put it on while I watch with my bats..... Lol

I think this was beaten by that battle at the end of Discovery series 2 with the most over the top CG dog dogfight with far too many ships I've ever seen. It's not like Trek can't do big scale battles, DS9 proved that, but this was just a a mess.

This is one of the many things that Strange New Worlds (and Lower Decks as well) have got right. Space battles in SNW are beautifully animated, but they aren't overwhelmed with excess visual spectacles and they tend to be fundamentally simple: you shoot at us, we shoot back or try to find some helpful obstruction to hide behind, etc.

Even Prodigy's big space battle in their finale manages the task to some degree, despite it's scale. I remember watching it felt oddly sluggish, as the ratio of ships on screen to weapons being fired was surprisingly low, but it definitely made it easier to keep track of whatever specific event the camera was focussed on.

The whole idea of "let's make Seven be a miniqueen for a second, without consequences for her psyche, and without letting her make sane choices like rescuing the XBs" was completely idiotic.

I mean, I feel like Star Trek plays it fast and loose with baddie strength a lot.

ST: Picard wasn't good at all. Especially the last season. It felt like a badly written fanfic. Great cast but terrible writing overall.

Both those first two series horribly mishandled the Borg to the point the third had to hang a lantern on it in dialogue and call it nonsense and do their own plot that actually capped off what was happening in TNG/Voyager.

I just rewatched that one, and I disagree. It was uncomfortable at first, b/c it seemed so hoakey. The crew repeatedly hurt themselves trying to cross the room. Then the point was to observe the child closely. Dax was the one who finally got it. It was a commentary on observation/cognitive bias.

I like that episode actually... Lol.

I thought DS9 had some great time travel episodes tbh. Past Tense and The Visitor I think are top tier episodes, plus some fun antics between Far Beyond Stars (if that counts as time travel) and Trials and Tribble-ations.

I liked the strange new worlds time travel episode. It was tongue in cheek and a real fun episode with some character building.

Voyager laughs its ass off as it goes to present day LA to shoot a 2 parter minutes from the studio itself.

I thought the two time travel episodes in the latest SNW series, Tomorrow & Tomorrow & Tomorrow and Those Old Scientists handled it really well. They finally dealt with the sliding timeline issue for events that were supposed to be in the 90s during TOS.

What??? DS9 did time travel incredibly well. You know this month is the year of the Riots? August 2023!

One of DS9s driving themes from the pilot was deconstructing the almost militant atheism of TNG, exploring the nature of faith and how far people will go for it. A mortal man refusing the divine plan and choosing free will despite it meaning his own death and forcing them to save the Alpha Quadrant via Deus Ex Machina is totally in keeping with that theme.

In Star Trek Online the fleet shows up years later and attack the station. They weren't destroyed just relocated in time (no pun intended).

I mean, all they had to do was use a previously established device - they had the minefield in place that was preventing the fleet from comming through. Could've involved the wormhole aliens in that so that it doesn't get destroyed when they think it has. Everything would've been the same, with Sisko unknowingly going into a minefield and the aliens trying to dissuade him from killing himself in a pointless fight

That scene is a triumph of Federation ideology.

Finding the wormhole was a lucky accident, but everything else which lead to that apparent deus ex machina came about from Starfleet doing exactly what was needed to get the Prophets on their side: not with the intention or expectation of that ultimate result, but because it slotted right in with what the Federation wants to do anyway.

Sicko and his crew communicate with these strange life forms in they find, and make an effort to not only understand them but respect their wishes. They offer enormous practical support to Bajor and attempt to encourage them to join the Federation formally, but they respect the wishes of the Bajorans even when highly inconvenient (such as the abrupt pivot away from Federation membership that preceded the Dominion War). In short, Sisko and the government backing him legitimately earned the trust of both Bajor and the Prophets by being explorers, diplomats, and excellent allies. The military payoff they got is hardly the point, but they earned it.

Would any of the other races have earned the favor of the Prophets the way the Federation did? The Klingons, Romulans, and obviously the Cardassians would have taken over as brutal occupiers if they felt the need to get involved with Bajor at all. The Ferengi would have ruthlessly exploited Bajoran resources in their own way (which we know the Prophets were no fans of, see their temporary rewiring of Grand Nagus Zek), while the Borg would have simply consumed everything they found useful. Here, it's the uniquely decent actions and values of the Federation that win out.

I'm okay with the Beverly episode where she's trapped in a bubble and at first people start disappearing and then the universe collapses in on her. That was okay.

As much as we all hate Wesley, Elnor in Picard made him look like Shaft.

I agree with you, but there was Dr. Pulaski who was as bad as the two Crusher's combined.

In a galaxy with replicators, who would actually still know how to cook eggs (other than Sisko's dad)?

I always thought it was so tropey. It just doesn't strike me as thought-provoking if you can sum up something with "a parallel universe decided to release an evil version of me with an evil beard and nobody else to come from a parallel universe and frame me aboard my ship".

My friend, where do you think the Beard of Evil trope came from?

That's like saying Once More, With Feeling is tropey because it's a Musical Episode.

You mean you didn't like the series where they made friends with the Borg, and set up their friend as Queen of the Borg, but the very next time they encountered the Borg, everyone was scared and knew they were the enemy, and they could only defeat them with the Power of Nostalgia?

I'd say most of S1 and S2 and half of S3.

So, basically, yeah.

Season 3 was an awesome reunion show for TNG fans

So basically discovery. Because she has this cry face all the time.

And this is why the startrek.website instance has the reputation it does for over-zealous moderation ... because maybe sometimes we collectively deserve it if some of us are going to behave like this.

Which one though?

Also the scene where Scotty knocks himself out. Also the rest of the movie.

That scene was genius, the fact that you spend the whole episode thinking they'll turn up and sing opera then realise they're dishonoured because they're being forced to sing human pop music was hilarious.

The musical episode was cringey, I agree. But I had to sit through it.

But the Klingons rapping was actually one of the highlights of that episode.

All systems stable?

surprisingly, SNW actually had a minor plotline that extended past the episode where there was time travel. So not wholly "Nothing actually happened"

Perhaps you aren't familiar with the idea of episodic television? All episodes of TOS/TNG are episodic. This means that with very specific exceptions that are related to the over araching story, if there is one, nothing ever happens during the episode that will affect future episodes. It is literally the design of Star Trek from the begin. It's why the episodes open with a nonsense star date.

Actually, that's not true, as established in the novels and canonised in SNW last series, the timeline is in constant flux with certian events having to happen but moving due to interference. Hence why the Eugenics wars were meant to be in the 90s in TOS, now they happen post 2020 in the current timeline.

I don't understand this one, can you explain?