Skyrim on Switch 2 ships with severe input lag and a huge 53GB file size despite being capped at 30FPS
Skyrim on Switch 2 reportedly suffers from severe input lag, a 30FPS cap, and a 53GB file size, raising questions about its optimization.
todd, you've done it again
Wasn't this already on the first Switch? How did you fuck this up? It was already done.
Honestly, I'm kinda over the Switch 2 at this point. All of the games that have come out for it look empty and soulless, and there hasn't been anything to make me truly want to spend $500 on another piece of kit. They've had long enough to put out some quality, and the promise of "$80 for a game ensures we can continue to deliver quality" is just the corporate bullshit we all knew it was. This is the WiiU all over again.
It’s frustrating that a small number of really good franchises are locked into the Nintendo bullshit business model.
Xenoblade Chronicles, Zelda, Mario, and a couple of other series running on Steam Deck without the emulation nonsense would make me tremendously happy.
wanna know something funny? I emulate totk on my steam deck. I stopped playing it on original switch because the load times on steam deck are speedy compared to on original switch.
I'm sure Totk runs fine on switch 2 if you pay 25 bucks for extra frames on a game you already paid 70 dollars for. but i don't want to buy a console just for that.
but I do wish there was a future where nintendo would allow it on different platforms.
they won't. ever. but it'd be cool.
Emulators work really well and are very cost effective
I quit Nintendo ages ago. As a company, they're assholes. Then they want to charge $50 for a game that's 5 years old and 2 generations behind in graphics. Just can't hold a candle to PC or even the other consoles. The only thing they have left is like 4 game IP's
They just dropped a very mediocre Metroid title, and Mario Kart was middling at best, so they are down two franchises this generation already. If they make another clone of BotW then they are gonna be down a third, and they'll have to make it up with Mario, but Donkey Kong didn't inspire hope on that front, so I'm not sure what I have to look forward to...
Oh. Pokemon... Well, I'm not holding out hope there either after Scarlet/Violet.
Nintendo has made it extremely easy to boycott the Switch 2 so far. They're hell-bent on releasing mid new games and tons of Switch 2 versions of Switch 1 games and acting as if they're new. I'm a big fan of Nintendo's games (well, I was, at this point) and the only exclusive Switch 2 one I have any interest in is Donkey Kong Bananza after the console being out for 6 months. That's abysmal. At this rate there will only be a few Switch 2 games released over its entire lifespan that I'll even want to bother emulating eventually.
Feels like the best meta for console purchasing is to only buy every other gen. I imagine the Sw2 is a blast for someone who didn't have the 1 and now gets to play all those games at an improved quality/framerate
I played this on the Xbox 360
I was over the switch 2 when i saw the the bare switch OS only had minor changes. Consoles are PCs without choice, but that is actually fine by me if they provide a fun experience not only in but outside of games as well.
... How do you fuck this up?
Sell product based on IP and brand name while delivering the bare minimum of product. Nintendo's MO for 10+ years now
If you haven’t already bought a switch 2, just get a Steam Deck if you want another handheld.
Valve also won’t remotely brick your entire device if they think you got an unlicensed cartridge.
In fact, you can emulate every other console with pirated ROMs without anyone batting an eye
And they're STILL charging $60 bucks for this fuckin game? Todd it's been over a decade bro
The year is 2064. The world outside is fire and riots.
A new life is brought into the world, the hospital lights flicker. The doctor, dirty and worn out, pushes the new parents a form on a battered clipboard.
"Congratulations to you both, now please sign this release to bring your baby home, but not before you designate which formats of Skyrim your child will inherit, please understand this is not optional, and we no longer take Bitcoin to pay the mandatory $60 Skyrim Fee, so please use cash, credit or ration cards to pay."
Bethesda, you have ported this game to fucking PS3, how do you fuck it up this badly?
Lots of Switch 2 ports have had problemd. My MIL had to stop playing Tales From the Shire because it kept wiping her progress.
So, par for the course for Bethesda then?
They really do have a habit of just barely making it work on every platform, no matter how powerful.
How much do you want to bet this is emulated
damn near 2026 and new releases are still shipping with a 30hz target lmao
The labor cost though, it's at an all time lo... Wait no that's gone up... What are they even doing?
Something like business metrics being measured in board salary $/frame-hour?
The bigger issue is this game is 15 years old now. Modern hardware should crush this.
Why is everyone bashing Nintendo for this? I mean I get it that Nintendo is not to be liked, but this is clearly Bethesda's fault. They did a fast and cheap port and failed hard with it.
You can install this game as a multiplayer RPG suite with cloth physics, frame generation, and a decade of fan content pushing that medieval engine to do things that shouldn't even be possible.
But somebody out there still wants to buy it in potato.jpeg resolution and run it on a kid toy
multiplayer RPG suite
Are you talking about Skyrim Together? How’s MP work now?
I’ve been out of the modding scene forever, and last I heard there was no “massively” multiplayer and only a coop demo.
Not "massive" at all. But it's not a demo anymore. I haven't looked under the hood in a while since back when it first came out but it used to just create NPC's mirroring your other players actions. That was a long time ago though, I can't imagine it working this well still using that method
Edit: Here is the list of features, looks like it's up to 8 people now. But I think it probably does still use that old method, based on the way this is all described
Vibe coded port… sigh
It's Bethesda we're talking about. They can definitely reach that level of incompetence without AI being involved.
I bet an open source emulator in pre-alpha stage would run Skyrim at 120fps on Switch 2 ez.
It wouldn't, the problems are on Bethesda's side.
If only there was another way to play Skyrim
_______ ships to Switch 2 with _____ issues seems t be pretty common.
Even Intel Iris Xe can play Skyrim (Special Edition) at ~45 FPS.
The original switch was for me a 300$ indie machine. I have no idea what niche is this console supposed to fill.
The niche of "I have to play the latest Legend of Pokemario game and nothing else will do"
"It just works!"
As in it just barely is functional at all.
This song is evergreen
severe input lag and a huge 53GB file size despite being capped at 30FPS
I'm not sure how being capped at 30 FPS should change any of those. Probably they went too ambitious with texture resolutions, etc. Which explains 53 GB AND the need to cap it at 30 FPS. And 30 FPS probably has MORE input lag than 60 FPS as most things only get polled every 33.333 ms instead of 16.666 (both repeating of course)
Lmao get fucked Nintendo
Feels like a straight
I do find it perplexing that other companies can also release a game like this, fix it, and then everyone basically forgets and treats the developers like buddies again (like CDPR did with Witcher and Cyberpunk, or Obsidian with KotOR2, or Hello Games with No Man's Sky).
Bethesdas original release of Skyrim was exactly the same, and then they fixed it. Same.with Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online, etc. The difference is that it just seems like people really love to hate on Bethesda more than other studios when they don't really do anything that different.
I mean, The Witcher 3 on Switch had a lot of bugs that "shouldn't have been there" because the game was already in a good state on other platforms. But that isn't how game development works because porting to a different console isn't as simple as clicking one button, especially not for something like the Witcher that runs in a proprietary game engine. Shipping with bugs is bad, but Bethesda isn't any better or worse than other beloved studios. They do seem to be publicly hated more than other studios, though.
Sure, but other studios, outside of Rockstar and Mojang, don’t release a game 14 times over 14 years.
When they do launch their game for the 14th time, it typically works.
I’ll give it to you that Bethesda gets a lot of hate over their aging engine and bugs at release, but this game has been released to death, it should either be bug free and over-optimized, or not released at all.
tbf mojang is a special case, where they’ll release their game on a new platform, it works fine, and as updates come in it gets worse and worse
Yeah okay but Cyberpunk 2077 and No Man's Sky were new games, not an ancient game that should easily run on a Switch 2 but somehow doesn't. And even then it required an insane turnaround before people loved them again. Cyberpunk has undergone a crazy transformation since launch and it's all for free (as should be expected when you release a dumpster fire).
This is not an easy thing, and not something you can keep doing constantly. Bethesda seems to be on a roll with releasing broken, overpriced, boring shit for a while now. And constantly milking Skyrim. There are plenty other games that I personally have played that aren't there yet in this timeline either. Cities Skylines 2 just got a new developer and is still not that great, I don't they'll turn it around. Stalker 2 is on the right path (and I personally really liked it on launch and even more now), yet a lot of fans still seem pissed and the game is still properly janky. Pulling a Cyberpunk is the exception, not the rule
Maybe theres confusing crossover?
I’m of the opinion that Starfield, in particular, is unreasonably tolerated even though (from what I played) it’s a dreadful, archaic, boring and sluggish game. I’m of the opinion that FO76 released in a particularly bad state, and that Todd behaved in a smiley “tech bro” kind of way immediately after its release. And I will pound BGS all day over that.
On the other hand, yeah, I’m all for devs re releasing games. It gives them visibility! BGS does it so much it’s kind of a meme, but it’s not bad.
So, BGS deserves some skepticism. But not over Skyrim, really.