2y ago

The best Lemmy app so far is "Wefwef" hands down. If you loved Apollo you'd love this.

The app has an amazing experience so far, because it feels like I'm just using Apollo, heaps of baked in features that no other app has so far. It's a web app so installation is pretty forward. Much love to the Devs!

(Side note: please change the name to something better. I recommend the name Voyager to keep up with the theme)

Installation:

https://wefwef.app/settings/install

WefWef's community page: c/wefwef

https://lemmy.world/c/wefwef

Courtesy of KillaBeez@lemmy.world for telling us about it.

Update:

Having issues? It's to do with rate limitations, this should be resolved soon but right now you can Use:

https://w.opnxng.com/settings/install

Here's the Dev's notes on that:

w.opnxng.com - wefwef hosted by Opnxng in Singapore.

Contact/privacy

Note: Community deployments are NOT maintained by the wefwef team. They may not be synced with wefwef's source code. Please do your own research about the host servers before using them.

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hi! wefwef dev here.
https://wefwef.app is getting rate limited by lemmy.world. The growth in traffic over the last 24 hours has been incredible.
That's why you're probably getting error messages. Hang in there, we're working it out. :-)
In the meantime, self host (it's just a simple docker container!) or use a community deployment (if you trust the administrator).
- hi! lemmyworld admin here.
  If I did it right, wefwef.app should no longer be rate-limited. Please let me know if it worked.
  
  You rock! 🤘
  
  Like a charm!
  
  Contrast this interaction with the spaz/Christian public dust-ups, and let’s all feel fortunate to be here. Thanks to both of you devs for making cool stuff.
  
  I've noticed a lot fewer errors now. Thank you
- This is an excellent web app! Thank you!!
- What an honour, fantastic app btw, it takes after the best after all. But I'm getting flashbacks with the rate limit thing, it's this going to be a problem like Reddit or what's going on?
- This is awesome. Thank you for the amazing project. Feels way more responsive than even the various apps floating around. Exciting stuff!
- Your app is really good. Well done!
  Its not only miles better than the default mobile experience on Lemmy, it is also has features like swiping that I have never seen used on a web app before.
  Do you have some kind of roadmap of features that will be added?
  Some things I think would add to the experience are:
  Previews of comments/posts
  Sorting by Top day, week, month, ect
  
  Just the GitHub issues atm. Thing have kinda exploded over the last 48 hours so still playing catch-up. That being said, feel free to search through and create issues!
- What’s the long term plan? Everyone hosts their own instance in Docker? I was thinking about using AWS container instances. I wonder how I would protect my publicly available interface though. I want to be able to access it from anywhere without vpn or firewall limitations. Do you have any good suggestion?
- App looks great so far!
  Will it have auto marking posts as read just by scrolling past them? No other apps do this yet…it was Apollos best feature!
  Also no dark mode?!
  Installing it via saving to the iPhones Home Screen…..how do we update an app like this? Never done that before 😄
  
  Installing it via saving to the iPhones Home Screen……how do we update an app like this? Never done that before 😄
  It's a web app, it updates automatically behind the scenes

I like Memmy, but Wefwef is great too!
- Memmy is great, and I will probably switch to it once they get some bugs worked out.
  
  Which bugs are you seeing? We’re getting updates sometimes multiple times a day, so they may be fixed already.

feels weird having an iOS centric UI on android but I'm loving it so far
- On Android as well, this feels better than a lot of native apps. I really missed Apollo after switching to Android and this project makes me happy.
  
  I'd have love to have something like this for Reddit back in the days.
  
  feels better than a lot of native apps
  if you installed wefwef from chrome yeah, but if you installed this app from Firefox, you're going to have a bad time, it was so slow and unresponsive on Firefox for me lol
- One of Us! One of Us!
  
  haha I do already have an iPhone though, I'm just more comfortable on Android

Whoa. I’ve been using Memmy lately but this one is like a carbon copy of Apollo. Will there be the feature to see saved posts soon?
- Yes

How did they nail the Apollo look and feel in a web app? Incredible. Been on the Mlem testflight but this is just soooo familiar. I hope this gets an official app on the app store!
- based on their github page they seem to really be a proponent of progressive web apps, so there might not be an official app anytime soon.
  its really great though and I can barely tell it's not a native app

I agree with all the things you said. Including changing this weird name.
- It is weird. I don't even order McNuggets to avoid sounding silly.

Edit title: Best Lemmy app*
- You can edit titles on Lemmy 👍
  
  Done. Still Reddit mentality.
  
  That's ripe for abuse though.

This is great, it is like Apollo reborn!

6+ year Apollo user here and I tried a bunch of apps prior to this one that just didn’t quite have the UI and features I was looking for. If you used Apollo, you’ll feel 100% at home on WefWef; it’s almost identical.
Weird name but it’s really an amazing app, it was the final thing to click and made lemmy a full Reddit replacement for me.
- Hard agree. Just got it downloaded and it’s fantastic!
- Thank you! I'm on Jerboa right now but will try Wefwef to compare. Now to just get used to this whole "instance" thing
  
  Yeah... What's that about? I can't get logged in on the Jerboa app because of it

It’s absolutely amazing. The thing I’m missing the most though is to be able to customize gestures/swiping like on Apollo. I’m so used to upvoting/downvoting by swiping left, and going back one page by swiping right, from wherever I swipe (on Apollo I only reply by long pressing a comment).
- The Thunder app has those features FYI!
- The developer is aiming for Apollo feature parity, so it should be coming :)
- Agree. Really missing the gestures.

Just saved this to my home screen, am I right in saying that it's just a webapp and not a full blown app? Seems to work fine so far!
- It's a progressive web app, which means when installed it has some extra powers that other web apps don't (like more access to device APIs, offline support, etc.) It was actually what all iPhone apps were meant to be before Apple gave up and made the app store.
  Sadly iOS's PWA support has fallen a bit by the wayside compared to PWAs in Android but it's picking up.
- It’s what’s known as a “progressive web app.” A weird in-between of a native app and a web app
  
  Seems to work well so far, not sure I like clicking on a comment collapses it, would like the upvote/downvote/reply options underneath the comment but it's early days and nothing that won't be ironed out over time

Swipe a little to the right to vote up.
Swipe a lot to the right to vote down.
Swipe to the left to delete.
- On comments, swipe a lot to the left to reply!

I nearly cried when I saw the interface. I love the Squabbles community, but wefwef will make me a Lemmy user

Doesn't really work that well for me, doesn't show the icon on the app button, can't change appearance in settings Using it through Firefox, not sure if that's the problem
- Might be worth giving it a try in Safari. Be sure to add it to your home screen because that adds additional functionality.
  edit: Androids smh
- On Android you need to access the page from Chrome I believe.
  
  Oh really? That's annoying. I'll stay with Connect for Lemmy then
  
  Thankfully, that isn't true, and Android is still more open than Apple, even with everything Google's been doing.

Apollo just died, deleted app and now I’m here. Goodbye Reddit

Wow nice! I just replaced the Apollo icon on my Home Screen with this.
Looks great and feels like Apollo!

i'm writing this from the app. it looks and feels like apollo, so this is amazing. i really look forward to further development!

Thanks for the post. Installed to Home Screen on iPhone. Working nicely to start. Looks good.

I agree, I just wish it ran smoother and was more reliable. I'm experiencing a lot of "failed to load", "failed to upvote", and "failed to comment". A community you can't engage with is no community at all.
- Yes. I can't use it since I got on the first time. I'm figuring it is volume and come back later.
  
  Yeah, hug of death!

Just downloaded it because of this post and I gotta say, it's fucking brilliant.
- Honestly impressive

Best web app I’ve ever seen. Thank you!

I don't have an "add to home screen" like the instructions say to do.
- Are you using Safari? It’s not an option on Chrome, which is what I normally use so I had to switch over to Safari.
  From there, in the toolbar you’ll see the “share” icon (box with arrow pointing up), then you should see “add to home screen” as one of the options when you scroll down a little.
  Hope this helps!
  
  On Chrome you hit the Share icon, then scroll down to Add to Home Screen.
- Are you using the safari browser?
- On Chrome there is an install option in the main menu

Where is all the nsfw stuff though
- That's the eternal struggle, you need to find them and subscribe to them one by one.
- I put in a GitHub issue - this should be fixed next release which so far is happening once a day.
  The dev responded and said looks like search was searching as "logged out" and lemmy hides NSFW when you're logged out.
  Edit: actually, it's already fixed!

Absolutely the closest thing to Apollo. Hoping all the customizations Apollo had come next!

This is astoundingly good. Like, I didn't know webapps could be this nice. It's kind of amazing.
- Yeah I was pretty solidly in the kbin camp until I finally lost Apollo. Wefwef really scratches that itch though.
- Was pleasantly surprised as well it felt like home tbh

I love it! The Lemmy web interface was acting a bit wonky at times, this is a great improvement.
- These comments really make my day. Hope you'd love it as much as I do. The whole thing is open source, so if you're not code illiterate like me see if you can give the devs a helping hand.

This is an awesome app, thanks!

It’s so weird how eerily similar it is to Apollo haha, but I’m more than happy to use it. I’m using Memmy at the moment, first day using Lemmy!

Thanks, installed. But still rooting for Memmy too! Love everyone who is stepping up to the plate for the mobile app scene!

If you're loving wefwef because of it's Apollo likeness, then you need to checkout Memmy
It actually introduces all the features Apollo had with native haptics, slide interactions and navigations, push notifications, and more. The developers have been working hard and pushing releases daily (sometimes multiple per day).
As an Apollo users for the last 6 years, Memmy has been by far the best iOS app for Lemmy that I have tried (which have been Mlem, Thunder, Liftoff (prev. known as Limbo)
- Yeah but it doesn’t look as close to Apollo as wefwef. It also doesn’t work as well on iPad, whereas wefwef has just nailed the aesthetic of Apollo right away.
  
  Recent update changed the bottom nav up, but otherwise is pretty similar

I’m brand new to Lemmy but this looks great and makes me feel at home already! Thanks for the recommendation

Bumped into this app yesterday and it’s so user friendly! Can’t wait for more features to be added.

Very nice. Thanks for the call-out!

This app is awesome, thanks for sharing! Congrats to the developer

This is so fantastic, it really does have that Apollo feel. I had my doubts with it being a webapp, but it's so comfortable and familiar, I've switched to it....despite the name, heh
- Ya the names are a bit weird in this part of town. But luckily we can rename it 😂
  
  It sits in the same spot as Apollo used to, so why shouldn't I rename it?! (Bilbo meme)

(Side note: please change the name to something better. I recommend the name Voyager to keep up with the theme)
+1 for Voyager!

You are a beautiful being.

Just stumbled upon this app a couple of hours ago and….. holy shit it’s just like Apollo! Excellent stuff.

Wow, now this is a reddit replacement! I love it. Thanks for the recommendation!
- It is very smooth! Is this what Apollo looked like?
  I was surprised to see all the auto-expanded images, but I guess I was expecting more of the old.reddit / reddit is fun aesthetic. So far, I've just been using the lemmy mobile site on firefox ¯(ツ)_/¯

This is nice! my only suggestion would be the ability to minimize cards for a text feed, if that's something that's eventually possible.
I like how smooth wefwef is, but if I could keep everything from auto-expanding (i.e. just scrolling through titles instead) it'd be closer to the old.reddit / RiF experience 🙂

It feels so weird iOS interface but a PWA, I’m a fellow Memmy user

So when I login to an instance, am I sending my credentials through the wefwef.app server? Because that makes me nervous.
- No you’re not. You can view the source code, it’s open source.
  
  Which is the best part imo. I wonder if this can be ported into an IPA in the future, it's stellar but not on par with native app performance imo.

One suggestion for wefwef is to be able to browse all communities of the particular instance you’re logged in to, or even better, have a page of all instances and the communities they encompass
- On the front page of wefwef you can choose to look at communities you are subscribed to, all federated communities, or “local” communities aka communities from the instance you are logged in on!
- honestly, easier community discovery from both local and foreign instances is a huge need for lemmy in general

Wefwef is gorgeous for sure and eerily familiar to ex Apollo users. It does show the red error message a lot though. It even said my user doesn’t exist when I logged in, but somehow I am still logged in. And it only lets me upvote every second click. We’ll see if it lets me post this.
But visually it’s a pretty stellar effort.

It doesn’t work on an XR. The interface is too tiny to click login unfortunately.

I’m so confused. How can it be so rich without being a full blown app? I have been enjoying Memmy, but can’t really find what separates the two.
- Lots of improvements to web app support in the past few years have largely gone unnoticed since, overall, not much effort really goes into deploying proper web apps. Installing an app from the App Store is also simpler then “installing” a web app. I personally prefer native.
  I share the same shock over Wefwef though, blows me away is an incredibly strong example of what web apps can now do. It’s still missing a number of things from Apollo, but that it seemingly came together as polished as it is now in just a week or three is stunning.

omg it's Apollo! (without keyboard shortcuts)
- TIL Apollo had keyboard shortcuts

Holy shit, THANK YOU!!

Is there actually an app or is this all web based? I can't figure it out.
- Its web based, but can be "installed" on both mobiles and desktop as a PWA which is Progressive Web App, essentially the same as using it in a browser but meant to function more like a "real" app
- It is completely web based. But if you bookmark it to the desktop it runs like an app even having an update to new release button in the settings to force the update of the javascript and stuff.
  I works great I use it on my iPad and iPhone.

Oh my god, this looks incredible. Thanks for this!

Totally agree. I never thought the best client would be a web app on my home screen, but here we are!

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