Sometimes the beauty is in the data.
Sometimes the beauty is in the data.
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Except for Nigeria :(
Considering that the majority of countries are missing from this, i wonder how many more there are where it got worse.
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I think I've made this comment before but I'm always amused at the phrasing of homosexuality being rarely justified.
So gay sex is WRONG and you'll go to HELL for your DEBAUCHE...wait 😳 he's cute! 😍 ok god will let you off this time ☺️.
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it's common sense that homosexuality is acceptable when it's between two hot women /s
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Just a phase, jada-jada, while a half-in tip dip from behind is an armed break-and-enter robbery, character ass-ass-ination even, get-shot-on-the-spot crime.
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Or as ancient Romans and Greeks it's justified if you're fucking a guy in the ass, but not when you're taking it in the ass.
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It is also acceptable when there are no female holes around, or when you're only gay for pay /s
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Even in progressive countries like norway thats one in ten people think that homosexuality is never or rarely ok. Insane. Thats so many people. Its a minority, sure, but its still common.
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Unfortunately every country has their low-water-mark percentage of irredeemable bigots. Thankfully most of them tend to live out in the middle of nowhere, away from civilised people.
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Problem is that those people have the internet now...
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Japan with the massive turnaround. Netherlands chill AF as usual.
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Netherlands chill AF as usual.
Probably comes from legalising weed. They got better things to worry about xD
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Does anyone know why Argentina was/is so progressive compared to its neighbors like Brazil and Chile?
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My guess: Larger % of people living in city centers vs rural areas. A quick glance at population data over time seems to back that up, but you know what they say about correlation.
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Maybe has something to do with the type of colonisation in each country. Argentina had its first university in 1613, while Brazil had its first in 1808. Brazil as a colonial project kept its extractivist nature for a lot longer.
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It's a really good question, I'm from Argentina and I don't have a solid answer. Like someone else said the colonization and history is likely to be part of the reason, but I would like to remark that Argentina has a lot more influence from Italy, Spain, Germany and France, and also Jewish ( iirc Buenos Aires used to be the city with the largest jewish population after New York in the 90's). It's a very different cultural melting pot compared to any other country in South America.
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I mean, Br and CL made a lot more progress. What gets to me is Mr Latam LGBT is behind Argentina by one measily point
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Argentina used to be first world as well, for whatever that's worth.
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It's confusing what you mean, because while "is first world" has come to mean "is a developed nation" for some reason, "used to be a first world" ambiguously summons the prior definition of the word, "an ally of the United States in the cold war." Ideally this problematic phrase should be avoided.
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Didn't know the world excludes all of Africa except Nigeria where homophobia is still very much a thing. Hell my ex was Zulu and my current girlfriend is Kenyan. Homophobia is alive and well in everywhere that was conveniently left our? Lol
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What a weird and confusing way to phrase that.
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Icelands decline is because racist Garry has died.
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Good they did not include Bangladesh. It would be all Red. Peoples view did not change.
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They included Nigeria instead, where it rose from 94% to 96%
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Or you could be like Nigerian become slightly worse.
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Did not expect Japan that high up, I guess the gay mangas had an effect.
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Hey I'm not saying if has anything to do with the fact that manga publishers started printing futanari stories more openly in the mid 80's...
But I'm also not not saying it's related...
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Surely the inverse would be true. The fact that they felt able to publish that kind of content was because of cultural shifts.
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thats great :3
now show the islamic countries😁
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I didn't expect China to score well but sheesh
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AFAIK the government is the issue there, not cultural attitudes. Their politicians don't use it as a weapon, but I could be wrong.
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government is the issue there, not cultural attitudes
Ehh..... Not really. Homophobia is just different in East Asian cultures. A lot of Asian people don't really care if someone they don't know is gay, but are incredibly harsh towards their own family members if they come out. Pretty much all East Asia is still extremely culturally conservative and still holds onto Confucianist social values like abiding to strict social expectations.
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Gotta love the Dutch. <3
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"Homosexuality can never... be justified." is an odd choice, but I'm sure that's what nets some positive responses in various cultures. I wonder how the reverse question would poll - "Homosexuality requires justification.".
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I think the reverse is "Homosexuality can almost always or always be justified". Then as a further "If yes, does homosexuality require justification?" can be added.
The opposite to yours would be "Homosexuality doesn't require justification" which would likely have different results.
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My takeaway is that as soon as acceptance goes past 50% it really speeds up by double digits each generation.
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Nigeria holding out as the last bastion of idiocy
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I think a direct link to the data/source should be required while posting in this community. Sure, it would reduce submissions but the quality will be muvh higher.
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Quite a selective sample for such a big claim
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I'm not quite sure how these countries were selected, but the set does touch on many regions and the very biggest ones.
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Sure, but only a single African country and none from the middle east.
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There are abo 25% of countries in there and it doesn't look like doctored data and agrees with lived experience. Your claims are baseless.
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That happens when people cant say what they think yeah. :)
But it does feel better. Feels like progress. But may not be actual progress.
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wtf is going on in nigeria :D
Christianity
Reliable recent statistics do not exist; however, Nigeria is divided roughly in half between 50–55% Muslims, who live mostly in the northern regions, and 35–45% Christians, who live mostly in the southern regions
Fucking pedo cults, man.
My guess is the billions that the US has spent to export evangelical bigotry in Africa.
Not to disagree, but a lot of other places spent billions on exporting bigotry to Africa. Unfair to give the US all the credit.
Disclaimer: I'm not an expert, but more familiar than most westerners.
Nigeria has a particularly rough history of religious extremism and totalitarianism. Even a lot of the indigenous beliefs were particularly intolerant (although this varied a lot, as Nigeria is an extremely diverse nation). These beliefs are rare nowadays, but still influence the culture and superstition. Adding to this, you have the influence of two abrahamic religions - in the north is a significant Islamic population, and in the south, Christianity largely imported (and enforced) by the British. I can't speak for the Islamic beleifs, but as was the case in many other places, the Christian beliefs imported and enforced were generally more conservative and extreme, and less allowed to change.
As well as this, the brutality of both regional warlords, colonization, then multiple different military dictatorships that followed, and now an ineffective government where terrorism and organized crime are common, lead many people to become more religious. Even now with a (relatively) stable and calm government, churchs and mosks are still one of the only sources for social assistance and security in communities. At the same time, the central positon of these churches leads to them being very corrupt and greedy, often being run more like a cult than a church as we tend to think of one. At the same time, in the modern world, this greed mean they also take in a lot of money from influential "Christian" organizations, for example, a lot of very rich, very political Anerican mega-churches, and will happily bend their teachings to appease wealthy donors.
All of this has led to Nigeria being effectively a perfect storm for homophobia and religious discrimination despite being (relatively) free.
thank you for the answer
Given the statistics, even gays are homophobes there
well, they are probably scared shitless if presented with the questionnaire and they prefer not to draw unwanted attention to themselves.
Not a lot of gay orgies at least
It's likely religion doing its thing again
What is the mechanism that you believe is at work? "Religion" doesn't really explain anything and comes across as possibly bigoted.
All the Islamic countries are left off the list for some strange reason
These countries have not had the most reliable reporting on topics like these, so data quality/availability is a likely reason for their absence.
Religious fundamentalism is strongly correlated with anti LGBT sentiment (at least with Abrahamic religions), so it is fair to assume that these countries are probably not very good. It is also worth noting that most of them are like they are due to meddling (or outright coups) by western nations. Iran was fairly progressive for its day before the CIA overthrew their democratically elected government.
Turkey would like a word.
Heritage foundation.
Time travel