Oh please tell me this is true!
Oh please tell me this is true!
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Multiple similar stories:
https://youtube.com/shorts/iork5qOyCNs
https://mishpacha.com/octopus-escapades/
My favorite is one who would squirt water at lights to turn them off.
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I would believe it, those fuckers are smart and if they were social creatures I think they would be in competition with humans for the dominant species . This is an opinion of a person not super well versed on octopi so take this with a good size grain of salt.
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there are social octopuses, like the larger pacific striped octopus. imo octopuses had 150 million years to rule the planet and they just weren't good enough. skill issue. us humans only had 2-4 million years. i'd say we're doing quite well comparatively.
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Maybe their version of "rule the planet" involved mostly just hanging out in their den and thinking interesting thoughts.
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They ruled the planet for 150 million years and didn’t ruin the environment once ? What are they even doing?
We’re clearly superior, who else could speed run the mass extinction end game?
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I don't think domination is actually intelligent or smart.
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Octopi if the base word was Latin. It’s Greek, so octopodes for plural. Technically.
Because English is a bastard if a language octopuses and octopi are fine too.
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I nominate "octopodusai" to be the new English plural. (Where'd the "a" come from? To make it easier to confuse 'ai' with æ because fuck you, that's why, of course!)
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If it was Latin, the singular would be octoped(e) and the plural would be octopedes
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Octopodes?
Ahk-top-o-deez nutz.
English can always make things worse.
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Fire is a major limitation.
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If i was a multi Billionaire i would dedicate my vast wealth to building an Institute that breeds only the most intelligent octopi with each other.
They don't live so long, so generations go by fast. I bet we could speedrun evolution if we just put our money where our tentacles are.
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I know that you mean well, but that is an extremely 'Evil Billionaire' thing to do
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Perhaps, but one must consider BogeyTheSwear’s Cephalopod:
- It is inevitable that super-intelligent octopuses will evolve eventually.
- When they do evolve, they will inevitable consider humans to be delicious snacks.
- As intelligent beings, they will of course look kindly upon their creators - mythical or billionairical.
- Therefore, the only safe and rational course of action is to invest all of one’s energies into bringing forth these humanity-munchers with all due haste, so as to preserve oneself as a creator in their perfect eyes. Either working against their awakening or having nothing to do with it at all is ultimately condemning your bloodline for all eternity to be a nice little midnight snack.
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If you want to read a book about super intelligent cephalopods Children of Ruin the second book of the Children of Time book is interesting.
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we could speedrun evolution if we just put our money where our tentacles are
Found the cephalopod.
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Their main issue is being antisocial jerks, they don't co-operate so they can't share knowledge and the females die careing for the eggs (which again they might not if they worked together) so they can't pass anything onto their young either. The jerk part is they also eat eachother sometimes.
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Higher intelligence is a cost in evolution, so it doesn't keep unless neccessary for survival.
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This would be directed evolution, not natural selection, so we decide what to keep.
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So we just make it really dangerous to be dumb.
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Last time I went to the aquarium there was a specialist on reef ecology talking about all the different species of animals on display and a woman in the group behind me loudly exclaimed "Wait, fish are animals?" so I'm going out on a limb and stating that I believe there's a considerable amount of overlap between the smartest of their species and the dumbest of ours when it comes to intelligence.
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Dumb humans survive and are taken care of, dumb octopi dont survive. Most animals dont have the luxury of keeping every mutation and variation viable for survival.
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I went to school with a girl who swore the Bible was written in English, not translated... 🙄
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Octopus didn't memorize shit. They saw fish and went to get them. Security guard don't give a fuck about the fish tanks, they were at the gate all night.
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Can confirm, have been a guard.
'Rounds' were check boxes on a piece of paper. TF do I care whether doors are secure, it's not my department store.
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Can rebut; was also a guard, briefly, first with rounds at a remote pulp mill, and then pit-lamping hobos at a construction site. Raccoons and bears and cougars -- oh my!
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If it was possible to start fire under water octopi would have tribal civilizations already.
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Did you know that the correct pluralization is octopuses or octopoda, not octopi? This is because the -pus ending in octopus to es from the Greek word for foot, not prom latin.
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Did you know that octopi has long been included in many dictionaries also?
Language is only half etymology and half vibes
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The correct GREEK plural, which would be used because the root of octopus is Greek, could be octopodes. However, in ENGLISH, people have started intuiting that words ending in “~us” pluralize to ~i, akin to cacti. So this isn’t about being a Latin rule, it’s actually an emergent English rule.
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After a little research it seems that "octopi" and "octopuses" have been so widely used and for so long, that dictionaries include all of them as correct. An article from merriam webster even pragmatically suggests referring to them as "octopodes" is less likely to be understood so stick with "octopi" or "octopuses". Also, it seems "octopodes" is the more widely accepted "correct" plural and "octopoda" refers to the genus.
But it's an interesting topic, i wish to subscribe to octopus etymology facts(or any interesting reads)
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Octopussen.
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the correct pluralization is octopedophiles
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oh! there's your keys. how'd you get them all wedged up in there, George?
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Jesus fuck that's a big octopus!
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Not the biggest, they can be way bigger, but different as squids, they are not agressive against humans, showing mostly reactions of curiosity, humans are not part of their prey.
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There are many documented Octopus escape/returns. But some of these details could be new/exaggerated.
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I'm disappointed that this didn't appear in my feed adjacent to the "teaching an octopus to play piano" video for a nice screenshot.
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The simpler explanation seems to be that the guard was eating the fish, and blamed the octopus when people noticed something was amiss.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c98qnyLLTPg
Apologies for the ear bleeding voice over. But it is a cool video showing an octopus opening a jar.
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Well that makes more sense. Damn guard!
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octopi = 25.1327412287183
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Approximately.
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Welcome, fellow octopodes enthusiast.
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Octopodeez nuts
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I’m not scared
Definitely not scared… 😳
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T. Ocellus is too cute
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Octopodes only live a couple years, and thank god. They would be the menace seen in sailors' imaginations if they just kept growing and learning.
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Do they really have security guards patrolling the aquarium like it's a prison?
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They probably have several checkpoints to scan every hour or half hour, I've seen places with RFID checkpoints that security has to tap on a regular basis. The idea is that security has to not spend the whole night at the desk.
Now they are likely looking for people breaking in, not a small octopus breaking out, so it might not get noticed.
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Seems so
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/octopuses-keep-surprising-us-here-are-eight-examples-how.html
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An octopus can squeeze through a hole about the size of its eyeball and transform its body shape almost without limits.
crazy!
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In the size of his eyeball isn't correct at all, the limit is the size of his beak, the only solid part of an Octopus, but I think that he don't like to squetch his eyeball if it isn't needed.
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Dude was probably a stealth gamer in previous life.
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Aquatic Hitman 47
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Did no one notice the giant puddle of water between the tanks?
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I, for one, welcome our eight appendage overlords
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They're smart as individuals, but they don't have generational knowledge so we're safe. If they figure out how to reproduce without dying right away, we're in trouble.
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Makes me sad tbh.
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@LadyButterfly Alt text available on link.
This is such a wonderfully funny story. Yes, octopuses are scary clever. -
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This is true. Many aquariums with octopuses have to do something similar.
Something smart enough to recgonize the people, what they mean, learn their schedule, and understand how to decieve them, is something that should not be kept in captivity for our amusement.
A lot of animals are capable of learning. More importantly they’re capable of feeling. They should not be exploited in the same way that octopi should not be exploited.
Quite right, they should be given badges and guns.
Eight guns.
This octopus, let’s give him boots, send him to North Korea
Every animal can react to their environment, including avoiding predators. Not all of them do it perfectly, but it is a basic survival skill for mobile life forms.
In the wild an octopus often hides in a tight space to protect itself and wanders out to feed, then returns to their safe location afterwards. They avoid predators while doing so. Lots of animals will be less active when predators are out and about, or will be active during times where it is more difficult for the predators to hunt.
Yes, an octopus is a very clever animal but really we should stop killing them because we are absolutely crushing their populations.
The stories I here about Octopi make them sound more like an intelligent creature we don't understand rather than "lots of creatures escape their cages to go hunting and then return before anyone notices. This is natural behavior for an animal."
Yes, the mind of an octopus is unknowable, and it could be just acting on instinct. It could also have some measure of sentience, and there is no way to really know. As such maybe we should err on the side of caution and not keep them in little pens for us to gawk at.
It could also hide from predators in an aquarium where it will be brought food every day and get medicine from a veterinarian if it gets sick. An Aquarium is the safest place for the octopus to live, so why wouldn't it's survival instinct tell it to live there to hide from predators?
We should set up an experiment with an aquarium that allows the octopus access to the ocean. Do you really think the Octopus would run away from the aquarium where it's safe from predators and gets fed every day?
And especially should not be farmed or eaten alive for clicks on youtube. We have made significant progress as a society reducing the barbaric practice of eating shark-fin soup and other exotic animal products, and made great strides in ending torturing sea mammals in amusement parks. We have to add octopus to this list of things we now know better about.
Octopus have feelings and are higher animals with unique personalities and ways of experiencing the world. They are curious, they are intelligent, they dream and seem to show emotions in a variety of ways.
And our last common ancestor didn't even have a backbone. This fact alone should amaze us and give us hope for the greater universe - that we can share so much with something so very distant from us gives hope that if we ever do contact aliens, we might share more than we think.
And they do all that with a CRIMINALLY short lifespan. 😟
https://octonation.com/octopus-lifespan/
"For example, the Common Octopus, Mimic Octopus, and Blue-Ringed Octopus live for around 12 – 18 months whereas the Giant Pacific Octopus can have a lifespan of 3-5 years!"
But "dumb" animals are fine? We even torture them because we think they taste cool.
Where did I say that?
The octopus went back to it's tank after getting a snack. That's at least some indication the octopus likes living there.
You are assuming the octopus prefers living out in the wild where it could be eaten alive. Who are you to assume what an animal wants?
Are you currently living in some kind rectangular structure where you have easy access to regular meals? Why are you living in this way and assuming an octopus wouldn't also prefer this? There's nothing preventing you from leaving the rectangular structure you're currently living in and going out into the wilds and fending for yourself to survive. Why don't you do the thing you're assuming the octopus wants to do?
Or it was too much of a gamble raw-dogging it in the outside.
All it did was take the 'bait' it was aware of and sneak back undetected. For all we know it might have been exploring, but in a hostile environment you wouldn't venture far...
I mean the government stops you - at least in the USA. If they find you, no matter how 'responsible' you are being they will charge you/kick you off the land unless you "own" the land.
I am quite literally not doing that. I am saying "we don't know so we shouldn't imprison it for our amusement" which does not strike me as a very extreme statement.