Milk
Milk
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Cow's milk is good food.
"But some people are lactose intolerant!"
Too bad for them.
"Saturated fat clogs arteries! You're gonna have a heart attack!"
It's far more complicated than that, and not nearly as big a concern as most people think.
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There’s nothing inherently wrong with it as a food, like most other foods, but it’s not a health panacea as it was portrayed in milk advertising previously. Its main drawback for public health is that it is fairly calorically dense, so while it may be better for you than soda, for those looking to lose weight, milk should not be your primary beverage.
Also: the dairy industry is questionable at best, from an animal treatment standpoint, as well as environmental.
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Preach!
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Agreed, but people without toes should also be tolerated.
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toelerated*
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Uhh, the people saying saturated fats clog arteries are right. Which is why the American Heart Association recommends aiming to keep it under 6% of total calories, as well as seeking to replace saturated fats with sources of unsaturated fats.
You are absolutely on a path to heart attack if you don't reign in those kinds of foods.
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The aggression and name calling in that second image reminded me of r/neverbrokeabone. I don't miss much about reddit, but that particular subreddit was pretty damn funny usually.
Someone would post an X-ray of a broken pinky they got in a car crash and everyone would be like "GTFO of here with your little baby bird bones, you calcium-deficient piece of shit!"
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when I was a kid, among the things I would never have expected to stumble upon, near the top of the list in fact, there was "calcium supremacism abuse kink"
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I did not wake up with any expectations of learning about Calcium Supremacism Abuse Kink this fine hallowed morning, nor any other morning for that matter thank you very much!
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"GTFO of here with your little
baby bird bones, you calcium-deficient piece of shit!"BBB, brittle bone removed.
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An X-ray of me, after I've finished my 10th daily glass of milk.
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Hey I’m part of the club!
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Big Milk is so powerful, I've had older women in China ask me how I got so tall if I don't drink milk.
This is China, with no history of drinking cows milk and like 90% of the population is lactose intolerant.
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China, with no history of drinking cows milk and like 90% of the population is lactose intolerant.
So much for the tolerant left smdh
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Lactose tolerance in adulthood is the mutation. Intolerance is the normal case for most humans. And most humans are tolerant to lactose in childhood.
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In fairness, China's southern and western provinces have historically been on the shorter side. But also, like.... Yao Ming.
90% of the population is lactose intolerant
You can improve lactose tolerance if you introduce milk to kids at an early age and drink it continuously. My 50s-era Jewish family are all horribly lactose intolerant, but I grew up chugging the stuff and do just fine with it. Plenty of ABCs can and do drink milk and eat dairy, just as a matter of living in a country so full of cows and cow-products.
What happens in another 20-40 years, as we obliterate our grazing lands and drive the cost cow products skyward? Idk, man. But milk is a consumer staple for a reason. Calorically dense. Very useful in cooking/baking. Relatively cheap to produce and distribute. Goes well over cereal.
If milk did not exist, we would have to invent it.
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We did invent superior forms of milk, such as oat milk.
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Calorically dense.
Pretty sure most people in USA don't need more calories.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK611097/
Relatively cheap to produce and distribute.
Dairy is literally the least sustainable and least efficient form of food production next to meat and palm oil.
https://www.trvst.world/sustainable-living/worst-foods-for-the-environment/
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When I was growing up we went through a gallon a day. Fucking love milk.
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I can remember when I'd come home from high school, if I smelled oatmeal chocolate chip cookies, I'd know my mom would have saved me some of the dough in a Tupperware in the fridge. I'd get it, a spoon, and a half gallon jug of milk and sit down in front of the TV until they were both gone.
I was super active, and really skinny, but it still seems funny to think about now.
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My parents rationed the fuck out of our milk because my mom would have Carnation Instant Breakfast (basically chocolate milk possibly with some additives?) every day as her breakfast and they couldn't be arsed to buy an extra half or full gallon of milk per week.
I also grew up hating the carbonation in soda so I'd literally only drink milk or water, which turned out to be very handy in adulthood since soda is so terrible for you (and expensive! Holy crap a single box of cans is like $8 and soda drinkers usually want 2-3 of those a week! Also i just realized that's 48-72 cans of soda a week meaning for two adults probably drink 3-5 cans a day!)
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Oatmilk is delicious.
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It's honestly the best milk in my opinion. Sunflower milk is a fun mention as well but less affordable, so a rare treat.
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I was raised a dairy milk fiend and oat milk is definitely my go to.
My family used to drink two gallons a day, my dad alone would drink one by himself... Yes he does have the diabeetus now if you were wondering how that's going
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I can't stand oak milk, almond milk is all I drink....I can't get past the oat taste.
Strangely I eat porridge every morning for breakfast.
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Sugar free soy milk is the best imo. Oat milk is too sweet
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I hate milk so much. The taste, the texture. Just the thought of drinking a glass of milk again makes me want to projectile vomit. I had to drink a glass of milk for dinner every night as a kid. I wasn't allowed to leave the table until it was gone. Sometimes I'd sit there for an hour just trying to force myself to drink it. My parents were like, just drink the milk, it's not so bad, get it over with, but it felt like being tortured every night. I was violently ill afterwards almost every time.
Turns out I'm both lactose intolerant and neurodivergent. Yes I was being a little drama queen, but I at least had reasons :)
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Who knew? One-size fits all health guidance doesn't actually work!
Supporting you, not trying to diminish your experience.
I was made to spell 'pepsi' before getting caffeinated sugar syrup at dinner. Looking back, that seems like poor decision making on my parents' part, but I can see the good intended behind the act. Hopefully we learn from those that came before... and make new and exciting mistakes!
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I couldn't drink it as a kid without cacao, but somehow as an adult it was fine.
Still don't drink it much, I prefer mineral water. Nice and salty
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Weird. I loved milk as a kid and still do. We were never forced to drink it, but we were encouraged a bit. One of my favorite snacks was banana chocolate milk, and I still enjoy a bowl of cold cereal.
The only thing I was forced to eat as a kid was veggies.
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I’m on the older end of Gen Z and this was definitely a thing when I was little. My parents didn’t buy into the milk thing, but I had a teacher who went wild with it. I forget how exactly it happened, but she found out I had cereal for breakfast without milk poured on because that was how I liked it. She decided this meant my parents were neglecting my needs and that it was her job to “make up” for it during lunch time.
I’d often end up sick trying to get it all down. I’m not lactose intolerant, it was just that the amount she required me to drink (five cartons one after another) was more than I could keep down. (Years later, when The Gallon Challenge became a thing, it brought back the memories, though at least I wasn’t forced to drink quite that much.)
I’d rarely gotten sick before, so once I was being sent home for vomiting frequently, my parents learned what was happening and made it stop.
It only lasted a couple weeks, but I never drank milk again afterwards, so that teacher accomplished the exact opposite of what she wanted.
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Milk used to make me so sick my little ten year old body projectile vomitted it across the breakfast table and my parents, who'd seen 10¹⁰ milk commercials, were like "maybe you're not drinking enough milk."
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my god..... that's ten billion ads.... if each ad lasts 30s, then your parents started watching milk ads 9510 years ago... that puts us roughly..... no wait.. -it can't be..!
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Lmao. I was too skeptical to accept this at first, so I double-checked both the math and the date.
Incredibly, everything checks out.
Hm, now I'm imagining OP's parents having lived so long due to being the first vampires. They saw others drinking milk and thought, "Wait, so we're all cool with draining and consuming fluids from others' bodies?"
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Several years ago I became allergic to milk (like actually allergic, not lactose intolerant). I'm doing oral immunotherapy treatments for it now, so I have to drink 20mL of it a day. I used to love milk before I became allergic to it. Now I can't stand it. I'm not sure how I enjoyed it so much.
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It's more enjoyable without a histamine rush
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Definitely, but I also don't care for the flavor any more. It just tastes weird.
Now butter on the other hand... holy shit. You just can't replace that flavor. It's amazing.
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I used to have to drink a glass of milk with every meal when I was growing up, I didn't even have the option of water, it was milk or nothing. I stopped drinking milk when I moved out. I haven't had a glass of milk in 25 years. I still consume dairy, I just don't drink a glass of straight milk.
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I mean, milk is nowhere near the super food they sold us back in the day... but it's far from the toxic sludge people put in their bodies daily nowadays.
Even a coke seems mild compared to the monster drinks and whatever other crap Logan Paul is peddling today
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I am doing a lean bulk and it turns out milk is incredibly high protein so now I'm drinking more than I probably did as a kid. Easy way to get the calories and feel full. And chocolate milk... well.
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Well no wonder you didn't fulfill your potential.
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I don't drink much milk nowadays just because I mostly drink water, but when I do have milk on the fridge... it's gone in two days max unless I carefully ration it.
nothin' like a cold glass o' melk
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I'm exactly the same, and it was always 2%. I was always a slow eater, I'd always be hoping and waiting for the moment my parents would leave the room for a min so I could run to the sink and pour it down the drain. I asked as an adult if they had ever realized I had been dumping it if they left and somehow they never suspected.
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It's especially crazy when something like 65% of humanity is lactose intolerant. No we don't need to steal milk from cows to live we are no way close to a parasite species to them.
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What's funny is that almost any other kind of milk is considered gross and unfit to drink: dog milk, cat milk, pig milk, horse milk, etc. That's true even for human milk! (Unless, of course, you're a baby.)
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Human milk actually doesn‘t taste that bad, it is very sweet however.
(Don‘t ask me how I know)
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I have two words for you: ice cream.
I rest my case.
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Your sensory taste pleasure vs a living beings suffering. I know which I value more and apparently which you do. That's not an argument it's like defending rape by saying it brings you pleasure completely irrelevant.
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You've never had Ben and Jerry's dairy-free ice creams? Or even just blended a lot of frozen fruit, a bit of sweetener, and just enough soy milk to get a treat with a roughly similar consistency? You're missing out.
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You will pry milk from my cold, hypercalcemic hands
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I am a manly man and I only put soy milk in my coffee. You can pry the bean milk from my unbreakable bones!
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If you drink some vanilla soy latte sprinkled with cocoa powder, you basically have a 4-bean soup
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Ooohhh.
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Has anybody else been surprised by what an 'r' could have done to the last sentence?
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You forgot satanic panic and how Harry potter was gonna send us to hell
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The interspecies dance between millennials who read Harry Potter when it was considered subversive and anti-christian, and Gen Zers who call it racist TERF propaganda, is one of my favorite culture schisms.
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I think that the pearl clutching Christians freaking out over the “Devil magic” had the effect of people just convincing themselves the series as a whole was more progressive than it ever actually was.
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millennial here. glad to hear the next gen is more literate, i've been putting hp's piss poor quality and shitty ethics on blast since like 2005 and people acted like i was regurgitating rush limbaugh or something because stupid fucking boomers went and made it a tribal thing.
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Believe it or not there was a time when jk Rowling kept her moronic views to herself. Then one day after she'd become a gazillionaire she was like "fuck it im rich now, im gonna pull a elon musk and show the world what I truly believe "
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Depends, because as a Gen Z I still am forced to drink it daily
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Pretty happy I grew up with hippy parents who raised me on almond and soy milks 😤
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Ironic, I feel exactly the same way as one of the other commenters further up the thread, but about rice milk, because my parents forced me to drink it with dinner.
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I guess my parents didn't force me to eat, so I just had what they put out.
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So needlessly hostile. Rawr!
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I'm gen z and the milk propaganda was everywhere lmao, what's this person talking about
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I'm a young millennial and it was still going strong in the 00s, so I believe it. My family of 5 no joke went through 1.5-2 gallons PER DAY in ~2005
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We also had the food pyramid, which said we should eat tons and tons of bread and grain.
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From a general population health perspective, the pyramid was a pretty good system. It was basically an attempt to simplify the Mediterranean pattern. I like the Power Plate better though.
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Like so much. I couldn't keep up.
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That's more or less how it should be, but with whole grains instead of the ultra-processed stuff. Your diet should be something like:
- 50-60% carbs (ideally complex carbs), with lots of fiber
- 20-30% protein
- 20-25% fat
Each group has sub-categories, but generally speaking, you should bulk up on grains (rice, whole wheat, corn, etc), get lots of great fruits and veggies, enough protein, and fill in the rest as you like.
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Giving up dairy was surprisingly more challenging than giving up animal flesh. I felt subtle withdrawal symptoms for months on a physical level, that was reminiscent of quitting nicotine. But on the plus side my body as a whole felt distinctly better, far less inflamed after quitting all of that and replacing it with foods that are mostly anti-inflammatory (except when I binge on chips or popcorn).
But sometimes I wonder, how much does carrying guilt impact the body?
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Guilt probably raises cortisol levels.
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Could you recommend some easy to digest foods, which work well as anti inflammatories? Like, which have you noticed having a great effect compared to some with a low effect?
I ask as I get gut inflammation quite badly.
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Having a healthy gut microbiome is itself anti-inflammatory, so you want to feed your little guys lots of prebiotic foods like crucifers, garlic, oats, and more. Some healthy bacteria thrive on the mucus you generate while fasting, a practice which also reduces inflammation.
If you're having problems with your digestive system enough to ask about it, it's possible you have an undiagnosed allergy or sensitivity. Many digestive sensitivities are identifiable only through an elimination diet since they don't provoke an immune response to test the blood for. A food diary is a good place to start, but it can be really difficult to notice patterns. You should definitely work with a doctor if that's a realistic option for you.
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One thing to keep in mind is that reducing and removing pro-inflammatory foods is equal, if not more important, because otherwise you are just perpetually trying to heal from the same wounds you keep freshly laying down. When it comes to gastrointestinal problems, things get complicated. I've found three specialists on the subject whose work might help you. One is Dr. Sean Spencer. The other, whose books might be exactly what you're looking for, is Dr. Will Bulsiewicz. And the last is Dr. Alan Desmond.
I'd like to give you a convenient list of foods, but for those of us with these illnesses, each one is a unique quagmire to untangle and I haven't even fully solved my own gut illness yet (though my symptoms are consistently much better than they used to be).
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give me and place
kinky.
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Instead gen z have to deal with parents who give them bleach enemas to prevent autism.
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To be fair, that does sound like it would cure autism.
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Meanwhile Americans still eating fucking eggs like Gaston, and freaking out whenever the price goes up because they have a dozen a day.
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Dude had 60 eggs every morning. That means there's basically an entire henhouse dedicated to his breakfast.
Meanwhile, in town there's a woman panicking to get just a few eggs, and the rest of the food in town seems overpriced.
Gaston was wrecking the local economy with his appetite.
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Ngl I had a whole analysis of the scene and the world they were in prepared until I realized I was being autistic and WAYYY too literal. It was like ten paragraphs. I had rewatched and scrubbed through the scene and looked up stuff about France and inventors and royalty...............
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I used to love dairy and milk. Now I'm lactose intolerant. Drinking milk means destroying another toilet these days.
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My sincere, deep condolences
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Malk
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Why you talking about my dad?
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We don’t force milk but we allow it twice a day and my kids almost always choose to.
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:shrug🤷
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I got a kidney stone from how much milk I drank in high school
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No, you probably didn't:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11133716/
and:
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-kidney-stones-and-calcium/
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I know it's weird for a teenager to get a kidney stone, made sense to me that it was from the excessive amount of milk I was drinking at the time
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I would waterboard myself with a tall cold frothy glass of whole chocolate milk. I'm a dirty little milk slut. I think I was essentially stockholmed into it. I remember being like "ew fat bad" as a kid and drinking skim for cereal. But somewhere down the line that turned into me just slopping heavy whipping cream neat. I mean fuck me I'm drinking a chocolate milk on my walk to work right fucking now.
I once drank so much chocolate milk in a short time that I almost puked. Was like almost 2L
I once drank so much milk I did puke. 10/10 experience tbh, cause like, I love milk. But also that was a good solid push during the purge phase of that.
Yeesh, drinking that much fluid in one go can be really dangerous, yeah.
I worked cleaning dishes in my college cafeteria, and one of the idiots working there made a bet that he could drink a gallon of milk without puking.
3 minutes later, he ran back into the dishroom and began vomiting in the soaking tub.
The human body physically rejects dairy at a certain point.
Once I learned fat is good, I started laying heavy layers of butter, lots of cheese, drinking whole milk, etc. And it tastes good, because we've evolved to like what's good for us.
Lots of tasty berries will kill you. So will tons of would-be herbs. Processed sugar is delicious. So are a lot of foods with trans fats. Cyanide apparently tastes like almonds. And kids ate lead paint chips because they were sweet.
Nice job, evolution!