My hot take on the official pronunciation of GNOME
My hot take on the official pronunciation of GNOME
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If they'd wanted us to call Itchio Itch, they shouldn't have called it Itchio.
Similarly, if they'd wanted us to call Gnome Ganome, they shouldn't have called it Gnome.
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Maybe English should just get rid of the stupid "the first consonant is silent when two consonants form the beginning of a word" rule tbf.
It's a skill issue to mispronounce loan words (like gnome, pterodactyl or psychology).
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English is a hideous mongrel of a language.
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If you don’t pronounce the p in pterodactyl or psychiatrist then lose my number
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Snail, small, three, press, change. I could keep going.
I've never heard of that rule. There are a few combos that are basically always that way though: pt, gn, and kn come to mind.
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English is a mix and match of a bunch of other languages
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You just got gnomed!
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was looking exactly for this
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People who say guh -nome are the same sick psychos who pronounce GIF "Jiff".
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Knice to meat you
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Found the KDE user!
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or Jiraffe, Giraffe.
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That format was a gift to the world.
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a gigantic and gargantuan achievement that enabled memes that make you giddy when you get the gist of their jokes
but yeah who cares what the dude says, language evolves and its pronounced gif now
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So all French people
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French people are definitely psychos so that makes sense
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As a non-native english speaker who thought I had finally grasped the english language can confirm I, in fact, hadn’t (I pronounce gnome as “guhnome” also as in “garden guhnome”, I had no idea)
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Making a fork of GNOME called GGNOME fr
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gg, nome
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no re(base)
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my brain is ruined. my head voice said "Gee-Guh-Nome"
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It's a French fork of GGNOME?
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GG Normie
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I use KDE because I never want to have to worry about how to pronounce it. There is no ambiguity with KDE, it's just K D E
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Guess I’ll pronounce it Kh Duh from now on!
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And it isn't a tablet ui.
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Kiddie
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I've actually seen discussions online and met one person who said it's "K-DE" (kay-dee), so it's not a sure thing.
So now you'll have to find something else, hehe.
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Krazy person that was
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Now pronounce Qt.
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Officially Cute, but for me it will always be cutie
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Well, that's easy. That must be "Kut", which, not surprisingly means cunt in Dutch.
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I use, and love, KDE, but this is not one of the reasons I use it... What
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I feel like if I’m pronouncing any Linux package for the first time, there’s some tongue-in-cheek “um, actually” trap hidden just around the corner for some self-righteous geek to correct you with a big smirk on their face because they get to feel smarter, which I used to be guilty of, but try to cut back on as much as I can these days.
It’s a fun joke at first, but I kind of got tired of it after a while, and just decided that politely educating in context and ignoring it otherwise feels way nicer.
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I’ve never met anyone who took this seriously in real life. Like they know what you mean and will joke about the pronunciation. But I read a lot more about these holy wars online.
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Phonetically it's pronounced "K-D-E-is-superior"
But hey, language is protean. It evolves and flows like a river, daddy-o.
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KDE MFs be like, "it's very intuitive." Meanwhile it looks like this:
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You are correct. But you are missing the most important button. Right in the middle of that table there is a big red button that says "autopilot - Manage all these things for me and I can play with a few of those other buttons, or all, or even none, and the rest doesn't have to be touched by the user unless they want to"
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I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Gnome is very aesthetic, but I swear it's useless. You open Gnome Something Utility and it opens a flat, empty window with no elements at all except up in the top bar there's a hamburger menu and a button that says "Do Something." It's perfectly rendered and kerned, it does something, as long as you want it to do the default something and you don't want to so something slightly different. The Gnome Something Utility is called Something in all menus but the name of the executable is GSU and there's no convenient way to find that out.
KDE is configurable but kind of homely. It's damn near impossible to get two adjoining widgets to have the same font size and kerning. When you launch Komething, you are met by a baffling array of text boxes, radio buttons and drop-downs, there are menus and tabs, none of which are lined up quite right giving it a kind of Windows 98 era jank to it. You can do every kind of Something, Something Else and Something Completely Different under the sun. There are professional closed-source Something apps that don't have the features of Komething, but it looks like a Half Life mod configuration wizard a teenager made in 1999.
Cinnamon is somewhere between those two extremes.
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Ahh! Home!
Just need to paint all panels and table surfaces black and highlight the knobs and dials.
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Nice, so I can read all I want on keto?
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Meanwhile, me, a non-native English speaker:
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One does not learn English the language, one simply memorises it
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The G is silent in English words starting with gn. Gnarly gnats is pronounced narly nats.
There's not a lot of those words anyway
Gnu and gnome are exceptions only when used to describe the software. The gnu animal and the mythical gnome creature are pronounced with silent gs.
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The only way to learn what something sounds like as a non-native speaker is to look it up or listen to someone pronounce it. There are no rules -- or at least no useful rules, because any rule will have many exceptions. Even different English dialects differ in how to pronounce words. There's simply no making sense of it.
For example, in many British English dialects, the "a" in "can" and the one in "can't" are pronounced completely differently, despite "can't" being a contraction of "can not". It's literally the same word, just with a different word afterwords, and yet the two get different pronunciations. There's no way to guess at that being the case, or come up with a logical reason why. You just have to accept it.
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But a can of something?
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Even different English dialects differ in how to pronounce words. There’s simply no making sense of it. Well that is how dialects work
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If it makes anyone feel better, I watched a coworker write “sequel” in her notes while I was talking about SQL.
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That's actually cute, sometimes I wish I were innocent to the abomination of squeal
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Squirrel
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We native speakers of German intuitively pronounce an audible "g" followed by an audible "n" when reading "GNOME" and find it weird that the ordinary word "gnome" is pronounced with a silent "g" in English. The cognate in our first language is "Gnom", pronounced with two consonants in the beginning, like the desktop environment.
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It wasn't silent for me in UK, it was G as in the ng sound in the word sing so ngnome. The back of tongue at back top of throat rather than just starting with Nome that has N with tongue at front of mouth.
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Yohohoho!
I'm not a KDE, I'm not XFCE, I'm not LTQt, I'm not a Hyprland, I'm not a Cinnamon, I'm a Guh-Nome! And you have been Guh-Nomed!
borks your Linux
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I don't know if I've had to say Gnome out loud before to another human person. I would go with the garden variety gnome myself.
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For some reason I assumed it was G-NOME
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Today I’m learning this and now I learn GNU is supposed to be pronounced “guh-NEW”
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Obviously... since their logo and spelling is the same as the animal... pronounced "noo".
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Meanwhile GIMP out here going "Yup, you got it right."
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GIMP is actually pronounced guh-imp
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Jimp - like Jamesp.
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Guh-asp!
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"What image editing program do you use?"
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I used paint(dot)net back when I still used Windows. After making the full switch to linux, I now use Krita, and have GIMP installed because it handles certain file types better than Krita. I cannot begin to describe my hatred over GIMP and how it's a necessary evil in the world of image editing for anything that isn't png, jpg, or webm.
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GIMP is pronounced just like GIF.
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That's the whole gimmick behind GNU projects... You pronounce the G. Because that's how you pronounce GNU.
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Nah I just say gnu
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Newme?
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I'm not a gnoblin.
I'm not a gnelf.
I'm a gnome. And you've been...
Gnooooommmmmmed!!! -
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If you add an "e" after the "G" then all of a sudden it's Science!
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I thought it was either gnome (as in garden gnome) or genome (as in genetics).
What the fuck is a guhnome
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Wouldn't you like to guhnome
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Guhnome is for people that can't make the back of the throat an nasal ng sound when saying ngnome
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You've blinded me!
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It's pronounced gee-nome, right?
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G-gnome
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Multiplayer, modem, network & internet ready!
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woah MMX (SIMD precursor), now this is podracing
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And then I’m out there pronouncing it G-Nome…
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I was hoping I wasn’t alone. I pronounced it genome for years before some neck beard took me to task for it. They also were mad at me for pronouncing CentOS like DOS (centahs rather than cent oh ess).
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ñom
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guh-new is not unix folks...
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Back when video games had more imagination than pixels, there was a mech simulator game called G-Nome. Which was the name of the enemy, pronounced "Genome."
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I was wondering just now if that was what the devs were going for, originally? I had never thought about it.
I guess I missed the joke, because I always assumed there was no ambiguity on the pronunciation... Are there people saying "G nome", really ? I bet they calls GIF files Jiff, too!
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Yes there are those who insist that the GNOME desktop environment is pronounced "guh-nome" because of GNU.
See, all open source software projects must have complete diaper fire names. Bonus points if you put more thought into the name than the software, like HURD.
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🤣 now I have “Jnomee” in my head and will never be able to un-hear that
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Our DNA guh nome.
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The G isn't silent but there is definitively no vowel between G and N.
So baffling so many of you cannot pronounce Gn with a non-silent G (or Kn with a non-silent K). Both Gnome and GNU are pronounced almost like the equivalent German words:
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Ok buddy for that I'm naming my next distro Squirrel
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Knome or go home
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I thought it was foot for a long time.
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I thought it was KDE
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it's pronounced david
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What's the story behind /etc/ as /etsy/?
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I always saw it as "et cetera", so the "et" came naturally to me
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I always read it as "et-c" to get that pronunciation
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This only makes sense to me because my aunt worked on guh-noo.
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JIMP or GIMP?
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Zhimp
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sub
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Yeah, well, you're going to have to take that up with the Colonel.
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English had the g sound until people got lazy and skipped it. So...
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Maybe that's a good thing.
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I pronounce it nom just to annoy everyone :3
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I have absolutely no idea how "Linux" is supposed to be pronounced. True story.
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linu as in Linus Torvalds.
X as in unix
from the horse's (penguin's?) mouth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IfHm6R5le0
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I pronounce it the usual way, but in the back of my mind (I keep forgetting to look into it), I've wondered if the "I" was originally intended to be pronounced like "Linus".
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It's pronounced like this
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Every time i hit that pronunciation my brain flies straight to G'home g'nomes
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I call it Ubuntu.
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I think the real reason it's pronounced Guh-nome, is because there are no silent letters in acronyms.
It's similar to the reason why SQL sounds like ess-cue-ell instead of a version of he word sickle that sounds like there was a submarine imploding in your mouth.
Singular letters are important in acronyms and always pronounced distinctively. And if they're vocally strung together, that's still distinctive.-
I've always heard SQL pronounced as "sequel."
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I am a self-taught CS guy, I and many others who didn't hear it spoken default to "ess-cue-el"
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Yes, but that is, from a certain linguistic perspective, mispronouced. That was it's literal name as an acronym at one point though.
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Three letter acronyms are the most I am willing to pronounce separately. More than that - if it doesn't have an obvious correct pronounciation, maybe the author should've used their brain instead of some dumb not so straightforward pronounciation.
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SQL is an initialism, not meant to be pronounced as a word. Acronyms are supposed to be pronounced as a word, like C.H.U.D (pronounced "Chud," stands for Cannibalistic Underground Humanoid Dwellers). For an example of the former, A.T.M is an initialism short for Automatic Teller Machine (or Ass To Mouth..).
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Yes, thank you, this is correct.
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Real Gs pronounces Gnow-Em-Ee
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It would seem gnome is the correct pronunciation. GNU naming conventions are a pipe dream.
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lol
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When I got into Linux I didn't know how gnome was pronounced (either the DE or the ornament), so I just stuck with it.
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Linux/opensource naming can be the wildest stuff.
this is like the dude who invented GIF thinking everyone was going to call it "jiff". it ain't happening, broski.
The G stands for Jraphics
jay-pheg
The format was originally designed to interchange animated palettised depictions of giraffes, so Giraffic Interchange Format made sense. They just changed the acronym when they realised that by storing different colours in the palette, you could depict things other than giraffes.
Yeah, just like the U stands for oonderwater in SCUBA, or the P stands for potographics in JPG!
That or Giraffe Interchange Format
Welcome to... Jraphic Park!
No, it stands for Jira.
So, out of curiosity, how would you pronounce CHiPs?
say the letters individually. Then do it again faster. Then again faster still. Once it becomes a single syllable instead of three, then you will have arrived at the correct pronunciation.
It's pronounced gif
And this is why Sonic and Shadow never sit down together for thanksgiving
I have always pronounced git as get (mostly because of accent) bit I watched a video the other day, and they pronounced it as Jit and my whole world fell apart. Was I pronouncing it wrong? Are they dumb? Was this secretly a gif jiff issue?
I have to deal with rej-ex (regex) and red-diss (Redis) at work a lot.
https://youtu.be/bmqy-Sp0txY
ZHAIF 4 LAIF!
:)
I miss Idea Channel a lot.
What about HiFi though? The Fi comes from fidelity, yet it's pronounced like the fi in finite.
English is weird
You can start pronouncing it correctly. There are so many English accents, why not have one that pronounces words how they should be pronounced?
It is called jiff tho?
yes, the J comes from Jraphics
Jif is a peanut butter brand
not any more than gnome is called guh-nome.
That's why you had to spell it wrong in order to communicate that.
It's obviously pronounced "jif" just like giraffe.
What? The creator of GIF has made it very clear it is not pronounced Jiff.
Hey, not everyone was born to be a king.
Except of course we did then and we do now. Too bad none of you ever looked at how G can be pronounced.
I understand that the letter G can make that sound. I am still saying, however, that the overwhelming vast majority of people pronounce it "gif" as in gift, and not "jiff" as in we're not calling it that. stomp your feet as you will, it's not gonna change anything.