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Skullgrid @lemmy.world

2mo ago

Dolphin gets serious

You are going to fuck this up. Don't come crawling back to me when you lose all your data since the dawn of time and you completely brick this goddamn computer. This is your one and only warning.

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"beyond repair" my ass, this is Linux
- I guess they meant "beyond repair if you don't have access to a live boot USB or the means to create one". Gotta remember who this warning is meant for. For those kind of users, "beyond repair" might technically be true.
  
  Maybe its also a ship of theseus type situation. If you have to copy /etc/ from somewhere else, is it still the same installation?
  
  exactly lol.
  "wtf is a 'boot/efi' directory, seems stupid, bye bye!"
  
  I feel like there is probably some software stuff you could do to permanently fuck the hardware, such as running a resistor at full voltage for a sustained period of time when its only meant to see bursts. Still not truly beyond repair, but you could make it very difficult.
- In Ubuntu you used to be able to delete the UEFI firmware from the motherboard.

Linus Sebastian will ignore all text and type yes do as I say
- I knew I shouldn't rely on that guy for sex tips.

Windows user: "Whatever", and keeps clicking around.
- They probably don’t even read what the message has to say. When I’ve helped some family members with their computer I’ve seen something important pop up and they just closed it immediately. I asked what did that message say and they said “I don’t know I just closed it.” :/
  
  With modern windows error messages being absolutely useless "something went wrong :/" tier messages I can't even blame them that much anymore.
  
  That's usage for a non tech literate user
  They will force every block out of the way of what they want to do, and if it stops working, they call someone.
- Mac and Linux users do this too. If they didn't then systems administration wouldn't be a career path.
  
  As a systems administrator, I'll not worry about users taking over my job as long as Citrix exists.

It's right tho...
Even sudo says that: "With great power comes great responsibility."
- With great power comes great electricity bill.
- pssh, it also says "this incident will be reported" when I get my password wrong.
  
  It does get reported, we know what you did
  
  huh.
  when i enter my passwd incorrectly, sudo does not want to report incidents. is there a confjg option i missed?

How times have changed. If you have used Windows 98, you were always the administrator. Your five years old brother could actually go around deleting random system files.
- https://tenor.com/en-CA/view/computer-old-man-my-computer-delete-my-computer-delete-gif-12348422
  You can still delete system files on Windows but you need double secret admin rights.

I never ever had to run my file manager as root.
- Same here, but I can understand why someone might want to. For many people, even those that are comfortable on the command line, a GUI is a more comfortable experience. And, I have (rarely) needed to do some filesystem management as not my primary user account.
- It's nice to have a GUI for those things sometimes rather than a command line for everything. If you're doing things right, your daily login shouldn't have access to modify system settings or read sensitive logs. But troubleshooting requires that often and ls, vim, cat, tail, etc., can become cumbersome compared to a GUI file manager and proper GUI text editor like Kate or Gedit.
- I installed something that I got very disappointed, and wanted to get rid of it
  the script itself tried to rm something in a directory but failed, sudo dolphin didn't work, so I found out how to delete stuff from... I think /bin or /usr/local/bin ?
  That needed me to run as admin/root so I did it. I deleted 1 file, the leftover artifact of the thing I didn't want installed. I then stopped using dolphin as admin so that I wouldn't break everything forever.
  
  I then stopped using dolphin
  Let me stop you right there altogether!

Iirc before dolphin would just refuse to run as root, I guess this is an improvement
- Yep, they used to. SUSE actually shipped a second version (or maybe just a shortcut with some startup-option) of Dolphin to provide "Dolphin as Root". I think this was inspired by said approach

this is why I moved everyone in my family to atomic fedora. This is almost entirely not a thinng there. To be fair while all of them regularly fucked up windows, only my mom ever fucked up regular linux distros.
- I installed Bazzite and it felt so much like installing Windows for me (huge install image, slow process, lots of loading wheels and user friendly "pretty" screens to get set up). It didn't feel great, but I figured I'd give it a fair chance and learn how to use a different setup than I'm used to.
  I still haven't had a chance to actually do much with it (only a couple of hours between work and other stuff) but I am really interested in the concept. After reading up more and watching some videos I now understand why the install process is so big and the reasoning behind it. This type of distro really does seem like a great option for regular users.
  Only issue I've had so far is connecting to my RaspberryPi to control my 3d printer using the .local hostname, since flatpak apparently has a bug with mDNS. IP works fine, and I did rps-ostree install a browser, which was kind of a pain, and probably not the correct way to address the issue, but that was within the first hour or so of using it and I haven't figured out the best way to do that type of thing yet. Really looking forward to learning more about the setup and how to customize stuff on top of it. Distrobox seems extremely powerful and sounds like it will give me everything I want.
  Still have vanilla Debian on my laptop, which I absolutely love, but using it on my desktop PC was kind of a pain due to some proprietary drivers required there (nvidia).

You're not my supervisor.

Mario Sunshine stakes got higher
- I had to come back to this message several times over the course of the day to finally understand that you mean seeing this message in the emulator dolphin while playing Mario Sunshine ups the stake of the game.

IMO an application written with a graphical toolkit and connected to a graphical server like X or Wayland shouldn't be run as root, as these millions of lines of code that the program may use through libraries is a very large potential attack vector.
This should be done through the terminal if you value security.
- You aren't wrong, but really what are the odds the version of zenmap I got from official repos is going to be an issue? I like pretty pictures to go with my networking tools, it's not like I leave them open after
  
  It's not that the program you're running is malicious, but that it has an exploitable flaw. Because it's a GUI app, a lot of things can touch it, which might be something malicious or something with another exploitable flaw.

If I want to look at files in a directory I use ls and thats it

they should just say here be dragons
- This is KDE, there are always dragons

Seems about three times wordier than necessary but ok
- That's the dolph.
  
  It's the d

It's true! Dolphin breaks constantly, don't give it a gun!
- Dolphin breaks constantly, don’t give it a gun!
  🤔
  https://youtu.be/HvnqU-1uDUU?t=16
  Are you afraid of this being the outcome?

anyone else find this just so patronizing and smug?
- no because I've worked office IT and people that have jobs I can see are really complicated and easily use software with a serious learning curve are still that fucking dumb.
- [x] Do not warn me about these risks again

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