There should a seperate place for US news so we all can ignore it🙎♂️
There should a seperate place for US news so we all can ignore it🙎♂️
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Yeah. As a Canadian, I can't say that I'm not fucking sick of it. This America-centric bullshit has gone on for far too fucking long, and if there is one thing that I will thank Donald Trump for, it is finally giving me a socially acceptable justification for hating that entire fucking shit stain of a country.
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Whoa! I never knew you were a Canuck. Glad you're better off.
But we should be used to this centric viewpoint. We have Toronto and our own country's fixation on the toronto-niagra-montreal Triangle of Journalistic Relevance, outside of which no one and nothing matters.
I try not to hate the yanks just because the news fixates on them for the same reason our news fixates in its own way. And I've met so many smart and caring yanks that are just not being heard in their own country.
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Newfie too. I'm the best of the best. So definitely aware of how centric the rest of Canada can be, trust me.
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Don't worry, we hate this country too :)
Though, we are part of the world last I checked, so while I understand an eye roll level of annoyance at US news being posted in a world news community, some of y'all need therapy with how angry you're getting. It's weird.
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Alternate title: I don't want to know what happened in Bumfuck, Nevada.
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I had a brief scroll through your history and it looks like you like to post a fair bit about the USA. Some trump meme, something about Tesla in San Francisco, Taylor Swift meme, Trevor Noah cllip...
...be the change you want to see..? 🤷
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Of the four examples listed, three are just up bullshit.
- Tesla flew off a bridge which happened to be in San Francisco. Would've posted a similar thing if it was in London or Kuala Lampur.
- Taylor Swift happens to be American. Her fanbase is global.
- Trevor Noah is a comedian born in South Africa, talking about comedy festival in Saudi, being attended by comedians from everywhere.
🙄🙄🙄
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One of the first things I realized I had to do after joining Lemmy, was blocking some "politics@..." communities (and some people active there)
Completely unbearable.
Rest of Lemmy then turned out to be totally fine and enjoyable folks!
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there are alot keyboard politicians on lemmy. they al seem to have a master degree in politics.
doubt any of those keyboard politicians actually contribute to anything useful in their own local politics.
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How about someone start a community called outsideUSnews, nonUSApolitics etc.? Where every country other than USA's news and politics are discussed.
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!world@lemmy.world has a rule against United States internal news, which is a nice balance for me, but it can still be dominated by news about ways that the US is affecting things around the world
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Unfortunately, that community is also moderated by an American (JordanLund) who has refused to acknowledge or accept terms from other countries outside of the United states, has banned Canadians for 'misinformation' when they were merely using Canadian political terms he didn't understand, and has argued with the admins of lemmy.world that he did nothing wrong. The admins warned him about the situation and publicly he refuses to back down.
That community can't be trusted. It's not impartial and not remotely trustworthy. It is seen through an aggressively American lens.
This is a breakdown of some of the shit that he's done. It's a repost of something I made that got deleted when I left LW. This is that original post if you want to see the comments of him "defending" himself by making it a thousand times worse. This was the last straw for me and why I left Lemmy.world, deleting all my content and setting up on dbzer0 instead with new communities to boot.
I am fucking done accepting an American being the be-all and end-all of reality when they're not even plugged into it themselves.
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But then what would the European's whine about?
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Isn’t this only a problem because many users are American? Then naturally many posts will be about America.
How is “world news” defined?
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Shh, don't be too logical; it ruins their fun.
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If a post is against the community rules, you should report it, not just downvote it.
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If I report every post I see not fit, I will get banned most likely.
\ And they will say that we support Trump and that we don't let people know about Trump for the 100th time.-
If moderators ban users for reporting posts which break community rules that the moderators wrote, those are some pretty incompetent moderators.
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Same bro, same! I have blocked 10+ communities and keywords through Voyager app.
\ I do enjoy my home page, but I do like to scroll through /all, and that's where I scroll going through USA news.Edit: USA users are also aggressive when you complain, like you are wrong, not letting other people know what's going on.
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USA users are also aggressive when you complain
It's another effect of the last few generations being raised on authoritarian teat. They're always right, and all dissenting opinions aren't just wrong, they're personal attacks.
I saw this shit in adults when I was growing up, in the US in the 90s. People here are straight-up brainwashed. I became a skeptic by age 12, and boy oh boy, did my teachers have a problem with it. I'd debunk myths and "old wives tales," especially when teachers spread them. I'd research and bring in evidence to support my points. Sounds like a great teaching opportunity, right? Not when the teachers lean authoritarian.
Even the best science teacher in my middle school couldn't admit to the class that he lied about swallowed gum staying in your stomach for seven years. He told me I was right in private, after I brought in two books and a magazine explaining that it was a myth. But the other kids? They didn't believe me, because teacher said it's true, so it must be true. As to the teacher, I guess it's just easier to control kids with a lie than to have a little humility, stand up for truth and science, and accept whatever happens after. It spoke volumes to me about where the adults around me stood. I already knew the kids were swallowing the propaganda, but seeing the adults have so little backbone angered me.
So yeah, we're pretty fucked as a culture. Needless to say, I stopped being surprised by the acceptance of fascism long ago. Too many people here like the idea of just being told things by someone speaking with confidence. To question that is to be a shit-stirrer and there will be consequences for it. This also explains why we accept terrible bosses and working conditions - it's all part of the same big picture.
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please share those words.
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Is the US not a part of the world? And why would US News not belong in News? I’m confused.
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Actually USA is a pocket dimension
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Because of the sheer amount of US-Americans, we curated seperate places for them, only containing US-American news, where they don’t mess up the rest.
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Do US doesn't think it's part of the world, it thinks it's its own different world that only contains the US.
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There are people who are stupid enough to pretend the goings on of the world's only superpower isn't relevant to their lives, as they scroll Facebook on their iPhones within the combat radius of an F-35.
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I'm also within range of a North Korean nuclear missile, what's your point?
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Those iPhones made in China you mean?
America is not the only superpower and well on its way to no longer being the biggest one. Trump complains a lot about providing defense capability for Europe and other places but in return for that America got influence which is what made it a superpower.
Now that people are no longer trusting the US that influence will be reduced. Europe won't be the next superpower but probably China will be. I'm not very happy with that but as a European I don't really want us to be a superpower either.
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Oh, yes, the only superpower of like 4. Europe, Russia, China, USA.
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Hurblurblurb threaten bombing. uSA! uSA!
That's what you sound like.
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sucks Lemmy doesn't have filters and that people mispost stuff about the us (which is not part of the world) in news/world communities.
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Piefed has keyword filters
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The Voyager app has keyword filters. I have words like "Trump" and "Elon" in there and it has helped a lot.
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scroll "all", and just block everything usa and politics related. my lemmy feed has become an entertainment platform again instead of a pseudo intellectual masturbation platform for keyboard politicians.
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If its an international news sub I think one post form each country perday is fair. I don't need to have a minute by minute update about drumps bowel movements and how awful they are.
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This is why I joined feddit.uk. If I want UK-centric stuff then I can look at "local" posts. If I want to see more stuff (including US stuff) then I can look at "all" posts.
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That's certainly a luxury some of us has. Feddit.dk for Danes is certainly nice.
And with regards of filtering out mostly 'murican stuff I've just blocked lemmy.world and that seems to have helped a lot.
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It could be worse. You could live here and have everything in that news keep you in a constant state of distress and anxiety.
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All news happens somewhere
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So, downvote all the threads?
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There is. The !news@lemmy.world is about US news, AFAIK.
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i just block out these comms nowadays
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Wouldn't make a difference for me, I speak spanish so I can't post at all because every instance/community is english only.
Feels even worse when someone posts good news from my country but it's just propaganda and manipulated numbers, but since every actual critic was kicked out of mainstream media long ago, the fediverse won't accept whenever they post now and it wouldn't matter because they speak spanish anyway.Yes, I know I could host my own.
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If only keyword filters would’ve work for pictures as well. Also, lemmy 1.0 will support keywords platform-wide.
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Just don't sub munis about US news or politics? I never see any here except local stuff in the Chicago munis. Curate your subscription list and you'll be golden.
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And blocking this annoying user.
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Such places do exist though? e.g. !politics@piefed.social says:
Any politics anywhere in the world. Inevitably it’ll be 99% US stuff, but that’s not a rule.
And there's !usa@midwest.social:
Welcome to !usa@midwest.social, where you can share and converse about the different things happening all over/about the United States.
And !usnews@beehaw.org:
News about and pertaining to the United States and its people.
There also used to be !usa@ponder.cat and !news@dubvee.org, although both were on instances that no longer exist.
Also, "World" communities outside of Lemmy.World do a MUCH better job of allowing USA news but not letting it dominate the feeds - e.g. !news@beehaw.org.
You may want to broaden your horizons beyond only those large communities on Lemmy.World - especially since those subscriber stats are fake (the Users / month are likely better but the Subscriber counts in particular include accounts of people who tried Lemmy for a brief time before noping back to Reddit, never to return). An analogy: leave the toxic sheeple to argue over how to fix their Windows machines, while you embrace the beauty of learning to use Linux - it takes some slightest of effort on your part, but you will be glad that you did.
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Its so strange. Like let's be real here: Even if Americans weren't the plurality of Lemmy users (we are), America is also literally at the top of the modern global hegemony. I don't like it, I most certainly don't like what we do with it, but it's still true. Emanuel Macron does some dumb shit, it rocks the EU markets, maybe drops some forecasts for the sociopolitical climates of some EU nations and the nations they still squat on (again, not defending, just stating the reality that there are still African nations paying France for their independence). If a senator here so much as gets out of bed wrong, an entire chunk of the current global order could be thrown into upheaval. Orban praises Putin, sucks for Hungary. Trump praises Putin, it sucks for literally the entire planet.
You can be mad that we're in that position; I most certainly am. I truly believe the world would have a better chance at improving if we weren't. But until we aren't, yeah, our news is global news. You can be sick of hearing about it, you can even predict it, but that doesn't make it any less impactful or worth knowing.
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It's interesting that the US claims to be the top of the heap economically and yet much of the cutting edge science being done at the moment in fusion is coming out of Europe and China. I don't believe the US's contributed anything to that sector of science. It's the same across the board, the largest particle accelerator in the world, in Europe, the largest telescope in the world, in China, the second largest been Arecibo and that was in Puerto Rico, and was so unappreciated it was allowed to rot, not exactly a glowing endorsement for US science.
Every time this is brought up somebody always goes yeah but we've landed on the moon, and that's the point really, US's last great contribution to the world was over a generation ago and the organisation that did it is being defunded. America was one great.
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I would have naively thought that Europeans would be the plurality? But if you mean from any one particular nation then that makes sense.
Part of what the Threadiverse provides is the ability to make for ourselves whatever we want - and if someone wants to make a community that showcases solely news from within the USA while excluding all external news, or vice versa, then they can do that? The creator + mod can do whatever they want, subject only to admin rules of the instance that they choose, and if they spin up their own then they can even adjust those.
So even if they "should not" want that, nevertheless if people did want something different, then the power of the Threadiverse provides that ability? Of course it is a bit different to demand that someone else go through all the effort - and likely be doxxed and receive literal death threats for their trouble - but that's a separate issue.
So my point above was that exactly what OP asked - "There should a seperate place for US news" - already exists. I agree with you though that OP was not terribly precise in asking for whatever it is that they actually wanted: for !news@lemmy.world to feature news from outside the US? (the current posts that show up on it right now using the default sorting method of Active are things like: "Thieves steal crown jewels in 4 minutes from Louvre Museum", "Trump suggests US will buy Argentinian beef to bring down prices for American consumers", "Greenland chooses French satellites over Elon Musk’s Starlink", etc. - I am not saying that USA-internal news does not exist there obviously just that it is only one part of the news that that specific community chooses to host, which is their decision but nobody needs to be bound by that as they can always just seek out different communities that meet their needs better?) Maybe they want communities to exist for other places - like !uk_politics@feddit.uk, or !australianpolitics@aussie.zone, or !politics@lemmy.nz, or !canadapolitics@lemmy.ca, or !indianpolitics@lemy.lol, or !bulgarianpolitics@lemmy.world, or !politics@monyet.cc, or more amalgamation-type ones such as !europepolitics@feddit.org, !europepolitics@sh.itjust.works, or !geopol@sopuli.xyz.
Heck, there is even a community literally called !notuspolitics@lemmy.world that says specifically: "This is the place for anything but US politics." People can do whatever they want - note that it may require some amount of effor though.
And I need to add that I am just laughing here over on PieFed. We have had user & post flairs for half a year now already, merging of comments across all cross-posts for slightly longer, and we've even had features such as the "Topic/Feeds" that combine different sources of news across multiple communities, and keyword filtering, for well over a year now. So very much of the difficulty in using Lemmy stems from the technology behind very behind that of Reddit, as if that kind of fully-featured thing could be developed from scratch, plus add ActivityPub integration allowing federation, and an API, all for free, in a short amount of time, plus having to do so using a highly niche language such as Rust. But Rimu did it, and post flairs and/or keyword filtering seems like exactly the kind of thing that would give OP exactly what they wanted: the ability to block out all posts of a certain type that they do not enjoy seeing, while still not having to do any work at all to either moderate a community (especially about a heavily contentious subject matter such as this!) or to create one or even to move to a different one. Which is why this post reads to me more like schadenfreude than anything else. So... okay then, ignore all the efforts being done to improve the Threadiverse, and rather simply complain, if that's what OP wants, I guess?
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Or US news in “pics” or “memes” 😡
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Send them back to REDDIT
It's not their fault they're taught that they are the centre of the whole world.
American geography teacher preparing for class:
And yet we still can't identify half our own states on a map. To be fair, there are a lot of rectangles.
It's not only that.
I have the feeling that US mainstream media style is replicated in the comments, aimed at maximizing polarized drama instead of having balanced and grounded discussions.
I can't stand that type of talk.
This. I was watching the BBC Archive the other day, where it interviewed people's thoughts on the mutual disarm movement back in the 80s, and you had two people sitting down at a table expressing their views, but not getting more than a little riled up or resorting to character attacks.
https://youtu.be/6yfE9Ihr8F0?t=661
I wish TV was still like this. The most vocal guy in the room is putting forward the view that UK paid for the nukes, and so it should keep them, and ultimately make ourselves more independent of the US and not subservient to them. He's also a chauvinist pig, but it is only one aspect of his personality and the others seem to understand that and keep the discussion grounded.
One thing I have noticed from watching these old videos is that people ultimately haven't changed: the exact same gripes (cost of living, buying houses), and the exact same fears (russian interference, loss of jobs to china). They just smoke and drank more.
That last sentence might sound like a joke, but I do think there really is something to having a beer and sharing a cigarette with someone you're violently in disagreement with. It normalizes the air somehow. Reminds me of the "slightly less than two drinks" rule from Mitchell&Web.
So many resources are deployed with the aim of making Americans afraid of each other and the world. This polarizes people, who get very heated and expend huge amounts of energy spitting vitriol at each other to no effect, which has the very intentional side effect of making politics so uncomfortable (and seemingly unproductive) to think or talk about that many people who can afford to do so just tune it out, which allows politicians to get away with even more heinous shit because it's what's expected of politicians anyway. It's a pretty elegant, if dismal, system :/
It's also their problem defining what is important and what not. Posting everything that Trump says, is not news, it's a spam.
Their behaviour is not their fault, but it's still their responsibility.
Considering a lot of OPs posts are about America and it's politics, I'm wondering if they down vote their own posts.
And that “we” (honestly don’t know if it applies to you specifically) are in their support of influence, so any big enough US news has significant impact on half of the globe.
With on one hand the polarization of discourse and on the other the decay of democratic standards in the US, it is normal to have higher levels of interest across communities that are not US centered but only US influenced.