Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'

He's so dumb he probably thinks Trump is a good businessman.

Not to mention protesting likely means becoming homeless. It means losing insurance, it means losing you car insurance and likely paying a hefty premium when you can get it again. It means losing access to food, Healthcare. It means risking being barred from future employment.

So let's vote? Well turns out your district is shaped like a contorted snake, and unless you convince 60% of people who will vote for any loony who hates the same people they do, to help their neighbor for once, well you're SOL.

Too many of us thought of ourselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

I did when I was a teenager, it seems most of our parents never grew out of being teenagers.

Looking good for your age!

(does not include LGBT+ people)

Yes it does.

Hey! What’s wrong with my ears??

And political views aren't a protected class. 🤡 World.

I get your point that the US is big, but it shouldn't take days to get to a major city from anywhere in NC. It's what, a 9 hour drive to Washington from the furthest end of NC?

Ok I'm not even from the states, but you should be able to get to Washington DC in less than a day from North Carolina. Hell, anywhere on the east coast is within 5 hours from a huge metropolitan centre

Fellow Tarheel here, and bud if it takes you "days" to drive to the nearest major city, you should have your car looked at. I drove from San Diego to Raleigh in 60 hours once.

Do you walk to those cities or what?

Do you think that in Europe we all live right next to the capital or even next to one of the top 4 biggest cities of our country?

Why don't you protest on the steps of the company you work at?

Wrongful termination suits are hard to win. If they can point at you failing to do your job in any way your case is shot.

The first is a problem for the worker, the second is mainly a problem for the employer.

While I bet that the employers claim that it's impossible to do and will lead to the downfall of the economy it has worked just fine in Europe.

And yet productivity is very similar between the US and Europe...

It’s obviously not forbidden to fire people. You just can’t do it like that, because you woke up grumpy that particular morning. Employees are highly protected in France, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be fired.

Yeah it's not all or nothing though. You're acting like outside the US it's impossible to fire people. That's simply not even remotely true.

Indeed. That still happens. Just you have to have a valid reason to fire them. Not liking someone is a petty reason to fire someone. Not doing their job is another thing altogether.

He also hired people to fudge the fucking numbers. At one point he had more venture capital in pure slush money than the entire US automobile market had in their banks.

There was never any reason for that other than defrauding investors.

I will never buy one, never even thought about it. Two things though, the 1st generation roadster was not anything like a leaf. 2nd, nearly $500,000,000 of the early funding was from the federal government and around $3,200,000,000 from California. Now the new federal bet on Tesla charging stations is around $7,500,000,000. It may have all been worth it to help the car industry need to compete wiith other electric vehicles, but the government could have easily picked a better choice for all that scratch.

The librarians your just insulted. Oof. Not cool.

Yep, imagine trusting the self-driving tech written by someone that runs a software team like that.

Actual car companies are the same as tesla, even worst. Tesla is so popular because old car companies bribed politicians to avoid transition out of fuel, and cheated (diesel gate was the norm, not an exception).

Unfortunately tesla is still better than other companies. And this says all about how corrupted is automotive industry

EVs are meant to save the car industry, not the planet.

Surely they're better but you're right- we should be focusing on more transit rather than just EVs.

Because I travel in-between cities, not only intercity. Also, a travel time of 20 minutes with no changing of vehicles is nice too.

And a really good song

"Just stop making mistakes. Also work overtime under stress."

Or when workers aren't guaranteed vacations. Or when vacation days are mixed up with you sick days.

A sick employee who can afford to stay home won't cost the extra due to other employees getting sick.

Non-fun fact: If you punish kids unfairly enough, they'll stop giving a shit about lying because they get punished whether they lie or tell the truth anyway. Fucked up personal experience.

But they do still hide stuff. And lose all respect for punishment.

Their engineers and designers did the work. He was the money. At most he stirred up some attention.

Did he really?

Rather is it instead some billionaire would have done it. We had the bad luck of it being Elon Musk instead of someone better.

He put money in Tesla. That is his main contribution. Tesla which kinda had the first mover advantage of being the one well placed EV company via their deals with AC propulsion and Lotus. Both which happened without Elon.

What really made Tesla possible aka the first Tesla roadster possible was Tappering and Eberhard personally flying cross the Atlantic to go personally meet Lotus leadership for Lotus to produce the gliders aka most of the car. The chassis, body, the suspension. The roadster was mostly a Lotus made car in which Tesla dropped electric drive train. Electric drive train, which core technologies were licenses from AC propulsion.

Funnily worlds first big EV company might have been called AC propulsion. They had their Tzero prototype, which is pretty much hand build kit car Tesla Roadster. All of first Eberhard, Tappering and then Musk talked to AC propulsion about them starting serial production of tzero. However it didn't happen since the company leadership adamantly refused. That is why Eberhard and Tappering incorporated Tesla Inc. They needed separate company to start production of tzero style roadster, since AC Propulsion strictly stuck to the field of just electric drivetrain tech. Under which field they then did what they thought their business is, AC propulsion licenses the drivetrain tech to Tesla and then let Tesla take the job and risk of actual automotive production.

Main contribution of Elon was insisting on carbon fiber instead of glass fiber composites. Requiring expensive retooling at Lotus for the Tesla production line thus making making car more expensive and saving negligible amounts of weight.

All the engineers apparently went: We already considered carbon fiber anyway. Carbon Not worth the extra cost of parts for the weight saving. This body can be perfectly well be done with glass fiber composites. Like you are the main stock holder, so it's your money. We do it in carbon fiber, if you insist. Just saying there is no reason to do it engineering wise.

However Elon wanted cool space age carbon fiber body so they did it in carbon fiber. Again at great extra cost for both Tesla and the customers.

Sound familiar? Elon insisting on non practical engineering choice, since he got in its head a obsession to make the thing that way and no otherway. Like removing radars and other sensors even though as leaks have later revealed all the main engineers on the driving systemics said it is stupid idea and leads to unreliable sensorial leading to problems.

Atleast in the camera only case he is trying to save money. I guess that is improvement over the unnecessary exorbitantly expensive carbon body paneling on the Roadster (Roadster is aluminium tub chassis car , the carbon fiber was doing no mechanical work, it was literally just body cladding).

And some are even trying further reduce the little remaining legislation that deters child labor exploitation.

But they don't bat an eye using the same children as a scapegoat to push through intrusive laws, under the illusion of protecting the children 😭

I do whatever the fuck I want in the USA pretty much every day. It's great.

Do you have a Bill of Rights, including all the freedoms that ours has?

He's south African and has roots in emerald mining.... he'd use slaves in a heartbeat and not lose sleep at all.

Nah he'd 100% replace humans with robots if he could. Way more efficient. No need for water, food, toilets, breaks, hell even lights technically speaking. Huge huge list of pros for him. (Don't hate me I'm all for complete world automation)

Well, that begs the next question. Do you not have laws to protect whistleblowers and allow anonymous whistleblowing?