They have a point...
They have a point...

They have a point...

Jfc how are people still talking about generations?
Exasperation, not a genuine question ^
Because it is an effective distraction from the actual problem which is class war.
Billionaires and their followers are the problem, not people of a certain age, gender, skin colour etc. etc.
In all seriousness, it is mostly cis men doing this.
edit: this was meant to be a joke, but honestly the amount of mansplaining in this thread and the responses below this comment has unfortunately altered this into a true statement. What have you all done?
Since men are still getting angry and messaging me:
Well, corporations created generational division to blame what corporations were doing.
Corporations created anti-union sentiment for obvious reasons.
As evidenced by articles about the worst people in the world lamenting that those young poors aren't buying enough diamonds, are ruining the economy, killing the golf industry, ruining handshakes, andmuch, much more.
Very seldomly do they mention that millennials are the first or second generation to be significantly poorer than the previous one, meaning that we can ill afford what previous generations took for granted.
Also, a lot of the things we're "killing" are arguably in NEED of killing, such as the cartel-dominated diamond industry, environmentally ruinous and dreadfully expensive sports such as golf, and truly bizarre things like so-called diet products high in sugar and low in protein
Before the Internet it was a bigger deal bc culture was different but yeah basically just a distraction
People like to have identities tho and like for this person maybe being GenX means something. Like distrust of systems
It is exactly the opposite because the Internet is and mostly has been a way to connect with like minded individuals. Generations are a new concept to divide us. They are less than a century old.
Before generations we had time periods that united us. We all knew what it meant to live through the 90s, the 80s, fuckin disco. It was commonality with your fellow man. Despite absolutely everyone knowing someone wearing skinny jeans in the early aughts - now it's a "stupid Millennial" trend.
https://worldhistory.medium.com/where-did-generations-come-from-e2fb73931a88
There will always be the need to have some societal construct for the grouping of people. People in the same generation were generally subjected to similar living conditions at similar points of their life so it makes it a valid grouping.
If not generations, then what? There is also sexual orientations, political beliefs, race… the list goes on.
Realistically you can’t have 8 billion plus classifications for every distinct person, so at some point there needs to be a generally agreed upon roll up.
If not generations, then what?
Income, average household size, cost-of-living, religious preference, level of education, geography... lots of ways to slice up that poll data once you correlate each polling place with other data. The key here is that it's possibly more valid to correlate with information that is closer to the election date than birthdays that were decades ago.
Oh yeah, you think everyone born in the late 1940s had similar enough lived experiences to universalise them? That's incredible that there's so little variation despite drastically different socioeconomic positionalities, almost like you'd have to dismiss certain experiences that inevitably deviate from that imagined norm to allow it to exist. Of course, there's only so many ways to account for everyone, so we will have to accept these dominant constructions of human experience as something inevitable as well.
I wonder if there's a word for that.
Love the rhetorical question clarification
I got like three dudes genuinely trying to explain it (with wrong answers) within a few minutes. So, seemed necessary so as to not suffer the mansplaining.
Because ideologies are a team sport now. And people need to feel like they’re part of something- regardless of its relevance.
Because ideologies are a team sport now
In the US? 🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
sneering distrust of unions
sneering distrust of science
sneering distrust of socialism
sneering distrust of wikipedia
I'd say their sneering distrust of everything has brought us to where we are now.
Nihilism isn't witty or crafty.
South Park is a real grabbag, but they really hit the mark with Gen X yankees dismissing green energy and environmentalism for being "gay (pejorative)". You could update that same episode and only need to swap out the last line for "that sounds woke"
You can trust unions. They're there to make money and acting in your interest is acting in their best interest.
While you can trust science overall, there's a hell of a lot of capitalism in there, muddying the water. Well-reviewed studies are generally pretty safe.
There is nothing inherently trustworthy or untrustworthy about socialism; it's an economic and political philosophy that is only as trustworthy as the people implementing and operating within it.
You cannot trust anything on the internet, including Wikipedia or even this very post. There are actors with an agenda that can make every article better or worse. There is no verifiable truth, only facts through lenses, and Wiki, being a moderated system, is as fallible as anything else. Much like socialism, it is at least designed to make it more fair.
No. And it may have contributed to the anti science and anti vaccine shit that has been floatung around. Just being a contrarian isnt helpful
They haven't just contributed, Genx is the anti-vaccine generation.
Boomers and silent generation remember what diseases were like and get their vaccines.
Millienals are more anti-vaccine than boomers or silent generation but far less than gen-x.
Gen-x has never held itself accountable. They are worse than boomers in so many ways and some of their stupid has leaked into the infected the thinking of millennial and even gen-z generations.
Blaming Millennial and Gen Z conservatives on Gen X alone is wild. How about we focus on the billionaire propaganda machines of social media and mainstream news. Zuckerberg is a millennial and his platforms have done more damage to teenage brains than we realize yet.
Absolutely critique people and people groups when they deserve it, but this whole generational obsession is exactly what those fucking us over want. Any place to blame but on them is good for them.
Fuck you as a Gen xer I resent you calling me anti vax. I am all for vaccination and all my kids are vaxed.
Lots of genX Trump voters for a generation that identifies with "sneering distrust of everything". Or are we talking about Q-Anon-style "sneering distrust of everything (except this totally believable source that conveniently aligns with the far right)"?
Look up some exit polls/surveys, e.g. this one: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/
According to this, people born in the 60s (late boomers/early gen X) was the age cohort most likely to vote for Trump, and people born in the 70s and 80s still preferred Trump.
Though age cohort wasn't nearly as good as predicting the voting decision than other markers like urban/rural, black/non-black or atheist/christian.
Has anyone ever told you that “lots” isn’t “all”?
Nobody claimed it was every single gen x? A statement was made that a large portion (in this case a majority) of gen x voted in favour of Trump; which is backed up by exit polls
Do you understand aggregate descriptors? That it is quite typical and appropriate to talk about groups based on their average or median value, even if it is acknowledged that there is a proportion of exceptions?
It's strange because the vast majority of my GenX in all my circles are super left. But I'm a suburban guy with most of my acquaintances in high literacy areas.
Once you get outside of the suburbs, things change. I could see gen-X going full conspiracy theorist, then double-thinking as propaganda feeds them ideas.
You just don't have to be so smug about it, also Millennials have been trying to warn you fucks for years that your blasé attitude towards shit was going to fuck us over one day and look where we are.... Gen X fucking us over with the boomers.
and Gen Z is trending in their direction, we're fucked.
every generation except mine bad
Our youngest President (by a 15 year margin!) was Barack Obama who was a late Baby Boomer. If/when Trump does, Vance will become the first Millenial president.
Meanwhile in Congress, Gen X only this year achieved a plurality in the House at 41% (versus Boomers at 39% and Millenials at 15%). In the Senate, at 28% we’re still far behind the Boomers with their 61% and Millenials are far behind at only 5%.
I’m honestly appalled at how many of us Gen Xers broke for Trump (even more than Boomers), but with our smaller numbers (65 million vs 74 million Millenials), we weren’t enough to push him over the finish line alone.
Sorry my generation hasn’t done more to make the world a better place, but honestly we’re getting fucked more than we are doing the fucking.
GenX has never held any type of power, nor will they ever - not political, not economic, not financial. The Boomers were always like "Wait your turn", but they never bothered turning anything over regardless of what we fought for, or how hard.
And now the Millennials have come up on the other side. And I'm just so tired of fighting to make things happen, or even just to try to preserve things, that that's okay. I did what I could to make things better, and I'm happy for a less weary cohort to take over.
Got any examples of millennials trying to warn us “fucks” for years?? Because I don’t recall any millennials I know trying to warn anyone any more than my generation was.
Additionally, I don’t recall ever having people prefix their discussions with:
“So, I’m a [generarion] and here’s my take!”
So I’d imagine you’d be hard-pressed to find any evidence what to support this claim.
And lastly stop with the us vs them bullshit. We don’t need to be divided any more than we already are. Generational behavior isn’t as prominent as you think.
Part of that attitude was that Gen X never had power. The Boomers have been clinging onto power since Gen X was in high school. Gen X could have fought for power, but would it really have changed anything?
Gen X contrarianism is some stupid boomer shit. Its no wonder so many of them are divorced maga conspiracy morons now.
The biggest fear that Gen X has is that their parents might disapprove of them.
At least millennials trust in science.
Let me tell you about how watching the X-Files as a kid made me interested in science - AND the occult!
mostly made me interested in bigfoot. turns out my gran has a costume and her siblings all took turns borrowing it to use out at the cabin or whatever. put a little whimsy in the kids' lives. family lore is that bigfoot's name is larry.
So do genxers.....
Sure don't vote like it
Not in my country, they don't. Not on average, at least.
This would make sense if they didn't vote for the people promising to fuck it up worse. (US politics only, I don't know how generational breakdown goes in other countries)
Gen X turned out to be more right wing than boomers, perpetuating the bullshit you all distrust.
I'm elder millennial and remember when gasoline switched from leaded to unleaded. I think GenX got exposed to the historical maximum of leaded gas fumes (in the US)
Nah, that's boomers.
Most countries cut out leaded petrol for good when x'ers were rolling around their teens / early 20's, boomers copped it their entire lives well into middle age. The famous reduction of violence when it started getting cut? Wasn't gen-x'ers doing that shit in the 70's.
I've often suspected it's why we're seeing older generations get batshit as rhey age. Lead can be uptaken into bones, and leach back out as the bone degrades. Like, say, with age
that would explain a lot
Gen Z has entered the chat. They’re more puritan than boomers
More puritan than the free love generation? It's remarkable that millennials are less puritan than boomers
So apparently you haven't looked at demographic trends over the last ten years because shockingly middle aged dudes have become the progressives among males. Not that they've moved to the left, but young men have swung so far to the right, it's terrifying.
So apparently you haven’t looked at demographic trends over the last ten years because shockingly middle aged dudes have become the progressives among males.
It's why centrists are so keen on labeling us teenagers. It makes me feel so young.
Gen X males were the bigger supporters of the Republican party than even boomers in the last election. I'm not sure which demographics you think I'm not paying attention to.
The swing in youth is noteworthy because it was a suddenc change, and the youth rarely support Republicans to much degree. Not that they were the biggest supporters
That's called a self-fulfilling prophesy.
I thought we were known for apathy since we were constantly told growing up that our generation was the first for whom things would be worse than our parents. I don't have a sneering distrust of everything, just cynicism towards massive, systemic injustice in the world.
Self-fulfilling prophecy?
No. You guys need to take charge. You are in your 40s. Fuck you for not taking the reins.
I think they're all at least fifty by now. I'm in the middle of the millennial years and I'm pushing 40.
The cutoff between GenX and Millennial is usually given as 1980, which means there are some 46-year-old GenXers. Sometimes 1978-1982 is described as a "microgeneration" called "Xennials," so if you're making that distinction, you'd still have 49-year-old Xers from 1977.
I don't even understand this one. It's this a thing for Gen x? I feel like Gen x is more known for complacency.
Whatever
Exactly, just watch early 90s Simpson's older teenagers, meh. That summed up gen x in a lot of media.
That's just a side effect from the belief that nothing important was fixable because the interests that kept them that way were too entrenched.
It's more apathy than complacency, after years of our cynicism being fully vindicated. A cynic is just a disappointed optimist.
What a dumpster fire of a comment section this is. I wouldn't even know where to begin.
Anyways. It all goes show how counter culture anti-establishmentarianism has been co-opted and usurped by conservatives. This is by design to destroy the field of play.
It wasn't a gen-x thing. This generational thing is a new invention and a weapon used to divide us. They put us in a ring and threw that knife in the circle, leaving us to fight to the death.
I know you smartypants are already typing out the, "hurr hurr generational strife has always been a thing". Just stop.
The era of counter culture had its last hurrah around the time of Occupy. After which the world memory-holed it and entered the era of whatever the fuck this is right now. People too young for that era don't have the lived experience to comprehend a totally different frame of mind that isn't the way it's been now. It's only when they experience a massive world shift that they might possibly conceptualize such a thing. People who do have lived experience of the before times have largely forgotten.
This whole comment section is self evident. You're applying the lens of the current zeitgeist over a different one and it amounts to little more than incoherent ramblings.
I had a difficult time understanding what you mean but I definitely agree that we need to stop focusing on the generational stuff. It’s capitalists vs normal people and if we don’t fight back against that core, from social democracy and democratic socialism on through, the neoliberal crisis will only worsen.
I miss when we used to talk about things as decades instead of generations. After the 90s it became Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha...
And yet you’re too young to have experienced what it was like when the very concept of the teenager was created. You wanna talk about a shift?
Cynicism, nihilism and distancing oneself from everything is not going to build anything good or allow others to succeed.
So no, not correct, not good, just a terrible mindset that will drag everyone down with you.
Big "the government doesn't work, elect me to prove it" energy
In my experience, online gen xers are the first ones to say, "Actually, if you were a serious person, you'd understand that Democrats can't do [wildly popular thing their base is begging them to do] because of [stupid, made up reason], and that [Democratic leader's] decision to [do incredibly unpopular thing the donors want] is a brilliant strategy."
Like with hippy boomers, some are still counter culture in X. But more have bought into capitalism in some fashion than being against it.
If it helps, I'm Gen X and I think being anti-vax is dangerous and idiotic, I still wear a mask when going out, I think Trump is a demented pedo rapist, capitalism is going to doom us all and nazis can fuck right off.
Ohhh good old trust, haven't been able to do that for a very long time, I miss it sometimes, but I also know it's never coming back in my lifetime
Yeah everyone loves a parent who knows their kids will be shit so they dont bother loving them preemptively or aiding them in any way.
They make such good parents that make a better world by ignoring and having no faith or care. So cool. Much wow.
Gen X really did perfect the “trust, but verify” muscle 😅 — the healthiest version is keeping the skepticism and staying curious so it doesn’t turn into cynicism.
Except the vaccine.
As a millennial: wait till you hit your 8th world changing economic crisis we'll never recover from.
Yeah, we know, you move back home after every one.
Is that why our parents keep causing them? Empty nest syndrome?
It turned out to be not nearly correct enough.
Maybe instead of sneering distrust, try doing your research and vote? 20% of genx registered to vote.
*in the US.
Remarkably, there were births outside the US between 1965 and 1980
OK? That's obvious, but we're still in this predicament due to US citizens, genx included, not voting.