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“You cannot serve both God and money”

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There are no moral billionaires. Rich men do not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. There are no billionaires in Paradise. In the end, every last one of them burns.
- Unfortunately they’re doing their best to burn the rest of us in this life.
  
  They instinctively know where they belong, so they spend their entire lives trying to bring Hell to Earth.
- "It is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than it is to pass a camel through the eye of a needle."
  
  It's amazing to me what logical acrobatics people will go to in order to avoid the simple plain meaning of this passage. The truth is Jesus was a poor person who hung out with other poor people and social rejects of all kinds. He was canonically born in a barn...for Christ's sake! To me, the message of Christ is quite unambiguous. Rich people go to Hell, same as murderers, rapists, etc. Being rich is a mortal sin. If you hoard enough wealth for a thousand lifetimes, sorry, you're going to the Pit. There's no way you can obtain that wealth except through the mass exploitation of the work of others. If you're a billionaire, and if there is a Hell, you're going there.
- In the end, every last one of them burns.
  If there was a just god, they would all burn. But if there was a just god, they wouldn't get to be billionaires in the first place. Billionaires aren't worried about hell or the afterlife because most of them know deep down that there will be no repercussions for their unethical behavior.
  
  This line of logic never made sense to me. You could just as easily argue that, as god, the only way to prevent billionaires or people hoarding wealth/resources would be to get rid of free will, and that in a way is also immoral.
  
  He has ended folks free will several times, because folks be sinnin'. The bible contends that was just, so there's plenty of options to stop people from hording wealth.
  But my contention is that he doesn't exist, and if he does, he is the most immoral being.
  
  I didn't mean in the biblical god sense, just a higher being.
  
  And this line of logic never made sense to me. If God can't prevent billionaires from hoarding wealth without getting rid of free will, then that means that God is not all powerful. Furthermore, if God can't prevent billionaires from hoarding wealth, then that insinuates that there will be billionaires hoarding wealth in heaven, or there will be no free will in heaven.
- Truth.
  Also, the predominant image of fire in the Bible is that of purification (not punishment). So the idea is that billionaires (or other such sinners) will not be simply burned away, but will be confronted with what their wealth hoarding has caused. They will have to endure the pain of being rid of their sinfulness in order come out on the other side. So there are no billionaires in Paradise in the sense that every person who is a billionaire in this life will one day be ridden of their wealth in order to enter said Paradise.
  This is precisely the image Jesus uses when He speaks of the “eye of the needle.” Tradition holds that this phrase is in reference to a small gate that required a camel (or other pack animal) laden with goods to be unencumbered in order to pass through. The rich must let go of their wealth in order to enter God’s kingdom in the same way because that wealth is like dross to them.
  
  Tradition holds that this phrase is in reference to a small gate
  It's a fake tradition.
  
  Not only a fake tradition, but one started by the wealthy to muddle what was a quite literal saying.
  Jesus straight up said that it's impossible for the wealthy to enter heaven.
  
  This is precisely the image Jesus uses when He speaks of the “eye of the needle.” Tradition holds that this phrase is in reference to a small gate that required a camel (or other pack animal) laden with goods to be unencumbered in order to pass through.
  There has never existed in all of history a gate in Jerusalem called the "eye of the needle." This interpretation was made up by some rich prick in the 11th century and repeated by other rich pricks through to the modern day in order to avoid the uncomfortable truth that Jesus said in no uncertain terms that they weren't getting into heaven.
  
  We were taught no one ever escapes hell. It's eternal. No one is purified and comes out the other side ready for heaven.
  Good way to keep the ignorant peasants quiet, calm, and obedient.
  
  Exactly, the Bible had reincarnation in it before churches and priests got involved. You can still find a few snippets, like some people asking if Jesus was the reincarnation of Elijah.
  Telling people that all is forgiven on death and the point is to just do your best doesn't collect tithes.
- Who says that the bible is morally right?
  
  Christians

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