Server Owner Spits Their Dummy Out Over Being Downvoted, Locks Post When People Call Them Out
This unfolded on "United States | News & Politics@midwest.social". Owner 'seahorse' showing the kind of person they are.
This is not how you run a server.
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But it is.
Lemmy isn't set up to create a set of fairly moderated communities with buy-in from users. It is set up so anyone can be a dictator on their own server.
Yup. But thankfully, it's also set up so they can quickly become dictators of their own little desert island.
Users can still quickly leave until they found a fair admin
A fair admin for now.
And when the fair become unfair then we move onto the next, as it should be!
I feel like relying on benevolent dictators only to run communities isn't the best option.
That seems fairly un-hobbity, with all respect.
At some point one instance is going to have democratically elected mods and admins, that would be interesting.
In the meantime yeah, we are still using other people's servers
Admins are legally responsible for anything that gets posted on their server, so they require control. They also put in time and money to keep the server running.
There may be other technologies where all-powerful admins aren't necessary, like peer-to-peer networks. But then everything gets much more complicated. No more opening a website and entering username and password, now users need to install a client first and use a private key. It's not clear who is responsible for moderation. Scaling will be much more difficult. Users don't want to store gigabytes of historical data on their devices, so some servers are still needed. The way Activitypub and Lemmy works is really a hybrid between normal websites which is a well-known paradigm, and p2p which is still experimental. The p2p part is only done on the server because it would be too complex otherwise.
I'm not saying that admins don't require control. What I'm saying is that there isn't an ability to distribute admin and mod duties on Lemmy in a more granular sense. There is only one admin head or one mod head and that can lead to mod issues the same that Reddit had.
I suppose this could be improved, but not sure how exactly. Afaik there is no issue about this yet, and anyway we lack development resources to implement everything. Sometimes I imagine how much we could achieve if Lemmy had 2000 employees like Reddit.
Afaik there is no issue about this yet
There have been issues with it, with don't somewhat popular instances becoming ghost towns because of admin actions. Part of the problem is that Lemmy out of the box doesn't really allow for anything other than one benevolent dictator.
anyway we lack development resources to implement everything
This is open source. There should be a published plan on development and a call for help to the community. If development can't transfer to a model where multiple groups develop different parts of the development plan, Lemmy isn't going to be able to grow.
We will soon get a new round of funding from NLnet, once that is finalized we will publish a blog post with the milestones.
Transphobia warning:
This question has been discussed at length in the thread. If people want to boycott Lemmy and switch to Mbin or Piefed, that's their choice, but maybe not relevant in this context?
Their comment here is valuable, posting this screenshot every time they comment seems counter productive.
That's the beautiful thing about lemmy. If I don't like the current dictator, I can easily switch to a more benevolent leader.