[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People
[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People
[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People
He strikes me as the kind of person who uses words like “bourgeoisie” to sound smart and thoughtful… but uses them while regurgitating talking points from fox “news”.
They’re not much different from the republicans they so detest. Hell I mean even Cuba is apathetic towards transgender people, Nutomic should be like them.
Tankies like him basically regurgitate fox news talking points other than anything relating to china lol. Like literally itd be difficult to tell them apart if china wasnt mentioned
The very left lefties who explain to us that the best tactics to achieve leftism are coincidentally doing exactly what the rightmost political group wants.
I can understand being frustrated with democracy. It has many strengths, but efficiency isn’t one of them.
When you see an injustice, you want it fixed NOW. Authoritarianism looks kinda good then, but ultimately it causes more problems than it solves.
“Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
Marxism-Leninism is fundamentally a right-wing ideology. It’s a right-wing ideology that is very much at odds with the dominant right-wing ideology in the West, but if you blur your eyes and take a step back, you’ll see the same thinking at play. Once you realize this, the whole situation starts to make a lot more sense.
certified .ml moment
Its nice having terrible social skills sometimes to the point where I make people drop the mask quicker.
It also helps that nutomic and Dessalines are both certifiable.
It's kind of a shame. I really like the platform and the concepts inherent to federated social media, but it really sucks that the maintainers of the codebase are hostile to any ideology but their own.
What the fuck is that guy on about???
JustTankieThings
It defies logic.
The Olympics thing is misinfo that spread around after a boxing match https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/08/02/imane-khelif-olympics-boxing/
No I know about that.
But what the fuck do trans have to do with the bourgeoisie???
If anything most of the ones I know are anticapitalist.
As someone who just joined and picked .ml because it seemed generally leftist
What the fuck?
It is generally leftist. Unfortunately you are probably imagining leftist economics but they want "leftist" authoritarianism. They despise capitalism. They love state capitalism. They will excuse any atrocities and human rights violations that occur as long as the country is extremely authoritarian and pretending to be economically left.
They are historical revisionists as well. Admins are extremely fragile. They will ban you from every community for writing historically accurate facts. If you find this screenshot appalling you should preemptively switch to a different instance before they catch you doing wrongthink and ban you.
Source: I had a lemmy.ml account for the same reasons as you.
they will ban you for writing "cunt" lol
It’s easy to make a new account.
I've really tried, but discuss.tchncs.de ghosted me, world kinda sucks, and lemm.ee is incredibly slow and semi broken for me, idk what else to use, I'm worried about. Ca because I'm in the old world so far away
I made the same mistake. They are the stupid kind of leftists
Pretty sure ML stands for Marxist Leninist, doesn't it?
Marxist Leninists aren't usually transphobic
It stands for Mali (the country the domain is registered to) but I think Marxist-Leninist was a happy coincidence for them.
Yeah, I am too attached to my account because it's several years old and was made when there were next to no instances running. But I can only shake my head at the amount of Marxist-Leninist nonsense that is at times pushed there, that unironically elevates what was a development of "Marxism" out of the material conditions of the Eastern Bloc as an imperialist sphere bent on market expansion and accumulation of national capital, into a religion-like orthodoxy.
No, ideology that is nominally Marxist, and having an educated caste of decision-makers highly trained in your interpretation of it at the top won't prevent capitalist dynamics and bring about communism, only the material base and changing it will, and your ideology will follow what your material base demands. And that had been expansion of national capital for the Eastern sphere since the revolution failed to link up with any industrialised nations in the 1920s. The elevation of Marxism into a basically teleological ideology, claiming that with subservience to the interests of national capital, there will be communism at the end (a promise broken over and over again), is completely understandable by looking at the Soviet and Chinese spheres of influence from a Marxist perspective.
And even the structures put into place by Lenin were explicitly designed as for his own time and the conditions within the Russian Empire, not as an infallible orthodoxy, and things like Democratic Centralism explicitly contained open and free discussion before unity of action, which was just completely pushed away. Urgh, it's sad to me, because I think a new, invigorated and organised communist movement is needed more than ever, but by redirecting it to the national interest of states like China (and even Russia, which isn't even nominally communist, and just opposes western imperialism to impose its own imperialism - like choosing Germany over France in WWI, the exact shit Lenin fought against) instead of the international proletariat, just weakens it overall.
I mean there literally is one. European style social democracy and democratic socialism has made way more progress towards socialist ideals than anything inherited from the Leninist tradition. It's just that the revolutionary fan service isn't as good so the Orthodox MLs don't like it very much.
Leftism doesn't require trans activism. It happens there mostly due to tribalism, not because the ideology somehow makes it necessary.
It sure does require supporting healthcare as a human right.
"The bourgeoisie" trying to stir up controversy and divide people? No doubt that seems very far fetched to any serious Communist.
Yeah, it's laughable that he thinks contradicting actions by those in power are strange. The whole point is to keep people squabbling amongst themselves about social issues and ignoring the constantly growing class divide going on.
Both are important, but imo a poor trans person has more in common with a poor redneck than a poor redneck has in common with a rich white business owner. And everyone has more in common with each other than they do with any member of the true 1% (meaning not white landlords of one or two inherited properties, but the people who own organizations like Blackrock).
Now if only we could get bigots to understand that instead of perpetuating more division between people.
That's the right idea I think, but keep in mind that there probably do exist at least a few poor trans redneck business owners.
Dude straight up banned you for the fact that actions have consequences. Frankly I'd wear getting banned by him as a badge of honor. Sure, what you're experiencing is also considered consequences, but I think it was worth it. You have my support, new friend
Thank you. It does feel good standing up for other people <3
Welcome to !linux@programming.dev
Some .ml cunt being a nutwad? Truly shocked, man.
They are one of the two people who created Lemmy.
Don't judge kids based solely on their parent. Lemmy has outgrown them.
They created Lemmy because they got banned from Reddit, and destroyed /r/communism in the process.
Yeah, and how does that seem to be working out.
This one
How are you going to get your first developer funded in donations when you say stuff like that?
Yep, this just prevented me, a trans woman, from ever donating to the main Lemmy project. I'm severely disappointed. I'll donate only to good instances with leadership I know aren't phobic.
This literally ignores the experiences of trans people, all of whom lost something in order to transition, and many everything. The system is being weaponized against us at every level. What an ignorant thing to say.
Right! Think about how two-spirited folks were loved and supported by the First Nations communities for thousands of years before Europeans stepped foot into turtle island.
There's always https://sublinks.org/
This guy also insisted on keeping the nazi instance explodingheads listed under 'recommended instances' on joinlemmy.org.
Weird fucking thing for a leftist to do, isn't it? Dessalines and Nutomic both claimed it was because they were free speech absolutists. Meanwhile saying China is performing a genocide against the Uigher people is a gaurunteed instaban with the explanation "orientalism"
FTFY: https://join-lemmy.org/
People who don't like free speech on here are sorely confused as to the purpose of activitypub and lemmy, they were explicitly designed to be censorship resistant so that people could express controversial opinions without being silenced - they already understand that people who dislike free speech won't support them, thankfully this project doesn't need much support and there are some free speech supporters that do donate even if they don't agree with every single opinion of every dev involved.
Context?
His argumentation is dumb.
But even more so, IF the bourgeoisie were promoting pro-trans stuff. It would NOT be suprising that the bourgeoisie would ALSO be promoting anti-trans stuff. It fans the flame of this “culture war”which according to communist theory, would distract people from realising the “true divide” in society is class, and workers to unite.
TLDR: He’s clearly a conservative of some sort because his logic is incompatible with communist theory.
Puts transphobes in quotation marks, bans everything he considers “sinophobia” even if you just mention literal policy in china. why are tankies so weird about so much stuff
Is this your own conversation with him?
Lost me at 'Why do they need to be "rooted out"?'.
Welp, they're a piece of shit.
This context just makes you both look silly.
Tankies don't be stupid challenge.
Difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE
Nutomic has been marked red on Shinigami Eyes
What is that?
EDIT: I posted before Googling it, because I assumed it would just give me Naruto results. Turns out it took me to this browser extension. Thanks for sharing!
Edit again: Now I'm extra dumb because that's not even from Naruto.
It’s from Death Note lol way darker
Update 2: Someone is mad
Just want to point out this unban you got:
Yup, I appreciate the good people out there!
Excellent work! That's one for the fridge
Any idea who that is?
The second lemmy dev: Nutomic.
Well, those were certainly words.
As a reminder, luckily code does not mean understanding... It's just the right words in the right order. The code itself is blameless, it's not great code or anything (and on request, I can be extremely precise in my criticisms), but it's good enough to be used for good things
Average Lemmy.ml user.
Communists are being pretty explicitly anti-liberal, and they make that a point pretty often.
And is becomes clear eventually as you see their posts and read their comments that these people aren't misunderstanding liberals, they're pretty aware that both in the meaning of the word and in practice, "liberals" generally want people to be free from shackles and free to do most anything. Typically summarized along the lines of "as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, do what you want".
Communists don't agree with liberalism.
Communists want to demand much more of people and permit much less. They have much more in common with Putin's extant but inflated voterbase than they like to admit. Even with Putin not being a communist.
Just go ahead and conflate outright tankies and ML's with the entire communist space, sure, whatever. You ended up with "Communists want to take your toothbrush" level of analysis just because you paint too broadly.
The problem with liberalism isn't that they champion liberty, it's that they are woefully incapable of challenging systems of power, and that just enables the present biases and power imbalances in the system, ultimately always leading to fascist tendencies and sometimes an actual slip into fascism.
And that's the beef the communist community at large has with liberals. They would theoretically be an ally, but will actually align with the fascists more often than with socialists/communists because they know fascists will ultimately still preserve upper class business interests.
I won't say that your critique isn't salient, it does fit in with what a lot of tankies seem to believe, as they regularly champion state power, but it always irks me when people only interact with online jackasses and then assume that all people who subscribe to a similar ideology share in those opinions.
I'm not a liberal by any stretch.
Communists don't even agree with communists
who?
The second developer of Lemmy the other is Dessalines
oh. i guess that kinda sux. good thing there's no such thing as a CEO of lemmy
so both are tankies, great
What a fucking idiot.
What insisting there's only one problem does to a motherfucker.
Studying communism excessively can ensure that you have shorting comings in other areas.
I don't think too much communism is the problem with tankies. Just garden variety stupid and/or authoritarianism
This comment really feels like a reply to something. Taking sarcastic comments out of context to paint a person badly doesn't feel good.
Edit: Source: https://lemmy.world/comment/11541457
Turns out, that they are indeed, a piece of shit.
Who is that douche?
Lemmy lead dev
Is it a pre-requisite to be a smug douche if you’re going to run a social media platform now?
Man… I miss Tom.
This guy: https://i.imgur.com/JHbt8Hj.png
Too bad the LW admins are too busy sucking off the .ml admins to defederate from them.
Because why would the bourgeoisie want the masses fighting each other? Though he's wrong anyway because the elite didn't promote anything that doesn't benefit them financially. While that includes turning the poor against each other, it also includes selling anything in any form to anyone regardless of want moral, ethical, or practical factors. If they can get you to pay them money for something with a rainbow on it, congrats, they're pro-lgbtq. Because they've got another subsidiary that will sell the hate-fueled psychopaths that want to kill you their Bibles and.
Classical Marxist/Lenninism is specifically not intersectional. They'll use race as a lever against capitalism but deny race as a social problem they must specifically intervene on. But it's also stupid to adopt. There's a reason TERFs are often fascist adjacent.
There are plenty of early leninists who were deeply intersectional. Alexandra Kollontai jumps to mind immediately.
But yeah, there's definitely a vulgar strain here that nutomic is clinging to.
I think it's like saying that Marxism isn't... let's say, Nietzschean. Those are two ways of looking into problems. In some points, they'll coincide; in others, they won't. I'm bad at analogies. Anyway, if you're a Nietzschean (in this case, if you believe intersectionality is the proper way of looking at social phenomena), of course Marxism (probably in all its different branches) will look incomplete and like they're building from the wrong premises to you. But if you were Marxist, you'd think the same of Nietzschean philosophy (or intersectionality).
I'm sure both have excellent reasons to believe in a framework or another, but we should not forget they are just that, not truth™. I say this not to fall into an absolute relativism but to prevent any side from falling into a conviction of moral superiority. We cannot be so sure about it.
@nutomic@lemmy.ml can you comment on this statement, or at least its veracity? Kind of fucking alarming even if it was a private correspondence. Sure as hell gonna make it (more) impossible for me to convince my trans siblings to join Lemmy if shit like this is allowed to fly. And I'm sure a lot of us are in similar boats.
Show your siblings https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/
It'd probably help if you told them about blahaj instead of trying to pick a beef with a single code monkey you don't have to interact with.
I very much do not want beef with @nutomic@lemmy.ml. I want clarity.
I decided to actually tag him because maybe seeing a voice that's "new to him" would get him to respond since he hasn't responded yet anywhere (as of writing) and I didn't see anyone else having tagged him.
I commented in public because I want to be transparent about what I say and what he says in the low chance he responds, so that there's no mucking about with screenshots and "leaking private messages".
I want him to understand that this is a serious issue that could jeopardize his life's work and not just someone trying to get "dunk points" on him.
It'd probably help if you told them about blahaj
Already have, lol. So the instance is trans-inclusive, but how can I convince them that the software is trans-inclusive and isn't systemically biased against them? They're not technical people; I've tried explaining the difference between federated and corporate social media.
@Beaver@lemmy.ca So sorry you had to hear this.
But this isn't the first or last time the lemmy devs go off the deep end. Come check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for a whole range of extremism the developers actively endorse and encourage
Man I wanna be banned by this guy too he seems like a dick :3
he sounds like hes pointing out hypocrisy on someone elses comment
am missing somethimg?
Yeah. That transgender is not a "topic". It's human and doesn't have to be repressed any more. And haters hate that
it sounds like this person is counter arguing with someone else who made it a topic
Ah, observe how the tankies come in to defend transphobia.
:(
Wow absolutely shocked. Not. I am a Blahaj user so not much of a threat to me, we can just move things. Tankies have always been a bit fucked in the head in terms of understanding left unity.
I wonder if the lead developers of Lemmy, and other federated software, who are also admins and mods of instances and communities, realize that they too are part of the bourgeoisie they rail so hard against? Then again, they probably have a whole gymnastics routine for how they somehow are not part of the aristocracy.
How TF are the developers of Lemmy part of the bourgeoisie? Or the aristocracy, which is different BTW?
Liberals simply don't know what any of those words mean, or they'd be a social democrat at worst.
They are. They don't think about it.
Nutomic is a nepo-baby who feels guilty about being rich and rightfully so, ah, but he doesn't feel guilty to the point of giving it away.
Hot take. Let's just say that anyone who makes anything anyone else uses and feels dependent on is a part of the bourgeoise now, amirite?
Idk how it's actually spelled, but it looks wrong. Is he doing it right?
Based on the additional screenshots in a comment, it looks like this whole thing was bait to create drama.
All I did was ask for a feature and stated that humans right should be protected.
You started out with the whole "it's the bourgeoisie pushing transphobia" thing.