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  • No voting at all would be my preference. Piefed is awesome though.

  • It was always suspected that DJM was an UM alt, and then was confirmed when he posted one of UM’s rants word for word.

    Word-for-word rant?! I've seen others say that too, but I've never seen it. Any receipts? I even looked on my own. I am not finding any word for word rant. You have a link to the rant? I have never DM'd any "heinous bullshit." Again, any proof or links or screenshots? OP is not banned in any of my communities. But if he went in my communites and downvoted a bunch of shit and as he admitted to, "poked the bear," then I'd prolly ban him too. Like others have been saying and doing.

    Off-topic tho. I have nothing to do with OP or the post.

    EDIT: Let's just move on. I'm not the subject of OP's situation. Unless you have proof of the word-for-word rant that the guy supposedly took from me--then we can keep going. I haven't seen any of that in his post history tho

  • Wow, thanks for the details. I never dove into it that deep. Great write-up!

  • Lemmy can be more authoritarian than even Reddit.

    I think it's leaning that way. And I think it's hampering it's growth. I still like Lemmy way more than Reddit though!

    And piefed is awesome!

  • . Got shadow banned from news

    Can Lemmy even shadow-ban tho? I wasn't aware that was a thing.

  • Yeah, that's weird. I wish people would be more descriptive in ban reasons. As the story is so far, it sounds like PTB to me. I get the impression from others on Lemmy that midwest is pretty ban-heavy tho.

  • Feel free to look at my post history. I'm not new, different, or purged. My post history is public: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts

  • Not me. Not my community. Not my issue. I don't have alt names. I'm on a couple other instances but under this name. I'm not involved or even mentioned in OP, so not sure why you're bringing me into it.

  • Dbzer0 banned me like two years ago or so already anyways.

    Wow, this sounds like you are ban evading then. Hmmmm...

  • It seems Lemmy overcomplicates this by letting people see votes, though like I said, I haven’t gone about finding out how.

    Yeah. There's a very active Lemmy poster who actually screenshots people's history of how many downvotes their comments have. He posts it to make his point. Bad form and he only does it to try to shame people and says variations of "See? We can't take this person seriously, look how many downvotes he has on his record. Obviously people disagree with him! So you should too!"

    That right there is how downvoting is getting weaponized. He's done it to me. Several times. And the posts are still up. The fact that that guy, and several others, will look up how many of your comments have been downvoted, screenshot it, post it, and tell everyone how much you are unliked, is pure bullying. And he takes so much glee in it.

    Another reason that I think voting should be done away with. If "views" wanna be tallied it up but we can't vote up or down, so we know how active something is, that's fine. But too many people weaponize downvoting/upvoting here.

  • Yeah, opponents of AI do, it’s making that worse for everyone.

    But that's any tech advancement. Friend, I was a professional artist for a living for 35 years. I'm not gonna cry about someones writing and art gig disappearing. They are no more special than anyone who has to work at a job they aren't passionate about.

    You AREN'T going to change anything. Brah, the vast majority of the population doesn't even care.

    Do you think that Jeremiah Boondock, working at a gas station in Missouri, while doing tile jobs on the weekends, trying to make sure he can pay rent, cares if his box of macaroni and cheese has AI picture on the cover!?

    Do you think he gives a fuck that you suspect some pokemon art wasn't drawn by hand?

    Not only doesn't he care, he's not even aware of it.

    Working a job you love?! The fuck? Most people have no idea what that is even like. It's not an option for the majority of the world. Never has been.

    I'm not saying any of that is good. But crying about ai art is the most blatant variation I've seen of the saying, "first world problems."

    Oh my God! LemmyFurryCyberpunkEatMyAssForPopcorn can't draw some anime for a living like he has wanted to since he was 10 years old!! What. The. Fuck.

    Yeah, ok, sucks. But you boycotting on Lemmy isn't even going to make an echo of an impression. You can push your downvote button as hard as you can, stop buying the DnD guides that you suspect used AI for the Elf in the background.

    No one will care. Nothing is going to happen. In fact, you'll stop the boycotting because there is AI so good you don't even know it's ai. You can only tell ai when it's bad. Good ai isn't noticed. Brah, your video game ad already used AI and you didn't know.

    Friend, things are gonna get way worse, before they get better. So what I'm doing is just preparing for it. You cry, I'll prepare and adapt.

    But yeah, you be sure to hit that downvote arrow as hard as you can whenever you see something AI on Lemmy. That'll show 'em! Right?!

  • Then move on. Seems like that community wouldn't be a good fit for you anyway, so no loss. Basically you are missing out on reading articles that annoy you. Wear the ban as a badge of honor, not shame.

    I've been banned--and I am not even kidding or exaggerating--for "it's Universal Monk!" Yes, banned because of my fucking reputation. Not because of anything I did in the community, never posted article, commented or even voted. Many communities I've never even heard of. But I've seen reasons of "UM," "Troll Universal Monk", etc.

    And you know what horrible horrible thing I did? I proudly voted third party (socialist) in the election. Which is more accepted now, but a few months ago, I was called a traitor daily. Still called that regularly. lol

    So yeah, some mods and posters are power-hungry babies. But for the most part if they are like that, then you don't wanna be part of that community anyway.

    I hated Biden (before it was cool to do!). So I stayed out of communities that kissed his ass. I didn't read articles that kissed is ass. Why would I go to some pro-Biden community if I'm anti-Biden?

    I think Furries are fucking crazy. So I don't go to Furry communities or get upset if I were somehow banned from one.

    Why would you go to some pro-meat community, if you are anti-meat? You know every article is going to annoy you. You should have blocked it even before you got banned.

    Which is why I'm all for votes being gone entirely. That way none of it matters...because none of it matters. :)

  • Obviously many of us have it better in the US than most of the world, that doesn’t mean we can’t complain if it’s actively getting worse and harder to live.

    Of course not. Yes, homelessness, rent, etc, those are real issues! And likely to get worse. For sure. And worth working on solutions.

    Being mad because SkateboardCyberpunkFurry999 can't pursue art as a passion and draw naked anime all day because ai slop is posted on dbzer0, seems like an inane thing to cry about. And I am seeing a lot of crying about it. lmao

  • Lemmy is already like this, even more so than Reddit. The fact that people come here because they think Reddit is right-wing is hilarious to me. Reddit is one of most leftist places online. And extreme about it. The fact that people come here because they think Reddit is "right-leaning" shows you just how insulated people want to be by coming here.

    Most people stay here because they want more extreme insulation. The few that come here thinking it's more open and less censorship find out real quick, that's not true. I saw a post in a casual non-political community about a guy talking about taking a walk and enjoying the weather.

    Comments immediately combusted into posters talking about Trump and Musk. LMAO

  • Why do you keep sticking around and reading shit you don't like? And for most, you can tell by the title if it's gonna be something you are interesting in reading.

    How about you read it, think to yourself, "that fucking sucks" and move on. Why do you have to rate it with a vote? Why are you trying to let people know you didn't like it?

  • see a comment you disagree with. You downvote it.

    That's much different than see a comment you disagree with, then go to every single post and comment the person has made and downvote it. Then create a fucking bot to downvote it. Which has happened and been documented plenty of times on Lemmy.

    I've been banned from communities I never even heard of, much less visited. Seem like places i don't wanna be anyway then.

    It's why I dislike the entire voting system. Too many people abuse it and try to generate narratives.

    On the other hand, I'm not THAT passionate about it. It's fucking Lemmy. No one has even heard of Lemmy, few people are here, and internet points don't mean anything in the real world. People take all of this way too seriously. They can change the voting system or not, I'm not that invested in it either way. We're already starting to stagment, and I think we are actually going to start getting smaller or start growing way slower.

    It's too much for normies to figure out when it comes to joining. So only the nerdiest of nerds and many with compulsive/society issues join here. So it gets overly political and and overly passionate about the smallest things.

  • Sometimes the rollout can have avoidable harmful impacts though

    I would say most times it's harmful in the beginning. But it happens and continue to happens. My rant is mostly about Lemmy's who are saying, "Ohhhh woe!!! Think of the artists!!! Oh Nooooooooo! My last Pokemon card looked like it has some AI on it! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!"

    I'm saying we should think of the millions of people who barely survive every fucking day because of inequality and classism. Not just some fucking artist who can't illustrate their fav DnD wizards for a living!

  • the fact that it is becoming less and less viable of a career path is depressing. Far less people will pursue art even as a hobby in a society that requires working and won’t pay for art.

    But that is true about anything. Wood working, farming, furniture making, clothes making, soap making, journalists. Even before AI,people stopped paying well for journalism. And yes, some midwest people DID love their job. I know, because I grew up there in the 80's when it all happened. I watched ENTIRE TOWNS die because of job loss. That's way worse and more impactful that some dude not being able to draw comics like he dreamed of.

    I'm not saying loss of jobs should be celebrated, I'm saying it's no different that what has happened before. And I was also around in the 90's and 00's when mass layoff happened and white-color people shrugged and smugly said, "Learn to code." To fucking farmers.

    Now those same people are crying about "coding" jobs on the horizon of being eliminated.

    The vast majority of people work jobs they don't love and they aren't passionate about. Artists are not more special than anyone else. People who are truly passionate and want to create, will keep creating. Just less will be able to do it as a sole source of income. But MOST people have never gotten to do their passion as a sole source of income.

    Especially worldwide. Peopl are fucking spoiled. "Oh the UA is so hard now." "So scary." "Art jobs are going away!"

    Ya'll need to fucking go live in the real world and see how good we have it compared to everyone else. There are people that work their fingers to the bone, every day all day, just to survive. And do it all their lives.

    And you people are crying about art jobs going away. Give me a fucking break!

    Again, I'm not celebrating it. But that's not where your "sad" should be aimed. Your "sad" should be aimed at the class warfare that happens everwhere.

  • This isn’t the first career to get steamrolled by new tech. That’s just how society works: new tools replace old jobs.

    Did you feel this bad when factory workers in the Midwest lost jobs to robots and outsourcing? What about when textile machines wiped out jobs in Alabama? Or when electric streetlights put out-of-work the guys who used to light lamps by hand?

    Did anyone mourn the bank tellers who lost their jobs to ATMs?

    My point is, artists aren’t more special than the folks who came before. Tech changes things. It always has.

    I was a professional artist for 35 years, I did design, illustration, layouts for marketing companies. Now AI can do all of that faster and better. A company would be crazy to pay me what I used to make. And you know what? I’m fine with that. I embraced it. I love new tech.

    People who still want to paint/illustrate by hand can. People who still wanna buy their stuff can. Probably not full time job doing it anymore. Just like anything else. They are not special. MOST people work at jobs they don't like to pay the bills, then do their passion on the side.

    If ya have a family to feed, you don't cry about not getting a job to illustrate the latest Flash comic book or your favorite DnD dungeon guide. You go get a job and put food on the table. And draw on the weekends.

    Welcome to life. And we still have it way easier than the generations before us did. I know. Because I'm old. As bad as you think things are now, it's better than when I was coming up.

    Until we get UBI, we gotta deal with what we have. But the idiot capitalist duopoly here in the US that Lemmy worships, is very much against UBI, so that's gonna take a while.

    Meh, I love AI, so...