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  • I don't see that way. It was very difficult for admins to remove doxxing info from the modlog.

    @unruffled@anarchist.nexus wanted to remove doxxing info from an user.

    Our admins, together, did their best to remove the doxing info from the modlog because it federate accross the fediverse.

    Given how serious the issue was, most admins expressed the idea to have an option to remove it from the modlog.

    So, it wasn't only Rimu idea. Rimu is also a dev, so he decided to tackle on this issue.


    The last one were Rimu was banned for zionism in a community. A false statement, He was so furious about this misinformation. Although admins from the FAF reverted the ban, the mod & modlog remained.

    But, right now, what worry me the most isn't thing as "rule 2" "zionism" "rude" "bot"...but a bot that spam content throught mod action.

    Yes, defederating would partially solve it, but the spam would remain...


    So how i see, yes the update was the direct result of this conflict between those two instances. But this conflict wasn't the only reason, it also revealed some issues from the modlog.

    Until now we used yptb, it was used to reveal mods & admins bad behaviour, Rimu benefited from it. However, we were lucky someone hasn't exploited the modlog yet.

    For me, it would be a mistake to ignore it. And yes, hidding modlog from most people also raise issue for me because that's the keypart in self-managed organization and that a key part in limiting our power.

    So i don't know what would be the best solution. I purposed to piefed dev a "right to answer" in the modlog few week ago in our zulip chat and maybe matrix.

  • However, you don't explain why. The extract you shared was the last part of Rimu's comment :

    But this is really a symptom of the modlog having massive fundamental design issues. For example the other day someone’s full name was in there and there was no way to remove it, across all instances, without some weird non-obvious workarounds.

    This person asked us, admins to remove it. Imagine that was your full name and address. We delete it and it appears in the modlog.

    We can face legal issues if we aren't able to delete person real name.

    It’s public, distributed across hundreds of servers, anyone can create a community and write to it, and it’s write-only. This has obvious abuse potential.

    Yes it was related to the ban for zionism. However that's just the tip of the iceberg....imagine a new spam bot, how will you handle it if it write in the modlog ?


    I enjoy the modlog transparency. My mod action is transparent, everyone can see what we do. However there is some downside. Admins struggled to remove that person real name, that wasn't an easy task.

    So there is pro and cons about the modlog. Until now, it served its purpose and allowed users to defend themselve against mod & admin abuse. However we shouldn't ignore the point above.

    As for myself, i don't know what is the correct answer.

    • Create an option to remove your mod's action from the modlog ? So when you delete comments with your full name, it won't appear in the modlog ? Then anyone can hide their mod's action from the modlog ?
    • Hide the modlog and only showcase to thrusted people ?
    • Create a "right to answer" ? A voting system ?

    The solution isn't simple. 😔

    Edit: typo

  • Maybe they are not well versed in tech. And the captcha also served to help google's AI...imo, we ahould send them complain so they will realise the probem

  • Yeah that's the only way : phase out google.

  • Thank a lot for those new features, they are great ! :)

  • Thank a lot for fixing those issues 😊

  • Linux Phones @lemmy.ca

    Google's reCAPTCHA Fails De-Googled Android Users, Impacting Privacy

    thecodersblog.com /google-breaks-recaptcha-for-de-googled-android-users-2026/
  • Fediverse @lemmy.world

    Fedilab has opened a nodebb forum

    forum.fedilab.app /topic/2/welcome-and-forum-guide-how-this-forum-works
  • Do you imply that that was his long term goal ? Intentional. No, he made a choice. I'm not well versed on technical side. So maybe it was a bad choice from him or an alright choice because he thoughts it would work better that way. So be it.

    Altough, we disagree on political side, Devs reach each other. They create a software that need communication between each other. You have to work together.

    For example for flair federation, they will adapt (either piefed will change its code or lemmy) For emojis reaction they will also adapt...Another example, i reached iceshrimp dev team and asked them for the support of Piefed. Then Nutomic reached me and asked too add Lemmy too. I sent them all the info from Nutomic to iceshrimp dev team.

    Admins and mods also talk to each other for banning spam, transphobia, solving issue...They are not probably on good term, there were a huge conflict but somehow they are managing the fediverse defence.

    So...

  • Yep that's why i think we should expand it to users :)

  • I disagree. You can lock conversation on piefed instance.

    It wasn't perfect but both side brought their arguments. That's what the most important thing for me. I'm not sure you would like to take my place and handle this mess. Nor spend the whole night on it.

    Rimu posted it and he would post on other communities. I let this post so dbzer0 can reply with counter-arguments and defend themselve. You have both point of view.

    There is also a post bellow on disinformation by users against dbzer0 below.

    Are you really sure it is a shadow-mod ?

    Locking comment is, for now, a Piefed's feature and if i'm not wrong, lemmy v1 will support it : https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/5916

    Lemmy were inspired by Piefed and us, the user :3

    Shadow-mod is that when you have the intention to hide your mods's action. On piefed instance, there is a lock under locked comment.

    On lemmy, that's not supported yet, so you don't see them or there is a lack of information between those 2 softwares. So when you write a long text from lemmy and send it to piefed and you don't see any warning...yes he wasn't happy about it and another user.

    However, that's not piefed's fault, nor his. He didn't know, he discovered an issue. That feature was created 10 months ago and wasn't used a lot. Those softwares doesn't communicate about the lock comment yet, there is no lock and we will improve it.

    For now, that's what make Piefed different from Lemmy.

    Let's take another example, Mbin is the only threadiverse software that support microblog timeline. You can see mastodon posts.

    Are piefed and lemmy shadow banning microblog ? No. There don't support it, and that's a Mbin feature. That's all. Don't try to imagine something else.

    You are speaking about several very different tools. Each of them serve a very different purpose :

    • Blocking : i don't want to see you again. We will never speak to each other.
    • Locking post : i stop the discussion to every users. Everyone can't reply. We change the topic.
    • locking part of a discussion (piefed) : i stop our discussion. We can see later and discuss on another topic elsewhere. Other users can continue their own discussion. Dbzer0 use a similar way : "disengage" and i think we should expand it to any users.
    • Filtering words (piefed) : mask content i don't want to read.

    And lastly, defederate isn't simple...

    I disagree with your way of moderation. Delete, ban...are bad tools. i believe we need more nuance in moderation and discussion. For example, the use of AI have there pros and cons. That's not a black and white painting.

  • That's not a shadow lock. Lemmy doesn't support this feature yet. The feature allow mod to lock part of the thread. I hope lemmy v1 will get it.

    It's very useful, because we don't have to lock the whole thread but only part of the discussion. So other users can continue talking.

    This tool can end heated debate rather continuing pointless discussion. I believe it should be expanded to users too and we desactivate the unlock feature with a warning message "it will lock the thread forever. You cannot come back, are you sure ?"

    Lastly, there was no point in continuing discussion. The user found the discussion interesting but didn't want to continue. And for him, reading book is important.

  • To make sure you don't confuse them i present both :

    RSS feed

    The RSS feed are a way to get notification when there is a new content published and read them. Aaron Swarz helped to developp this format.

    To use rss feed you need an RSS feed reader.Like this one :https://f-droid.org/packages/com.prof18.feedflow/


    Piefed's Feeds

    Feeds on Piefed are personal multicommunities for now they only exist on piefed. It allows users to group communities as !opensource@lemmy.ml !opensource@programming.dev !opensource@europe.pub into a single feed. Like this one ~linux@piefed.social

  • Linux Phones @lemmy.ca

    Linux in your smartphone: where do we stand?

    www.projets-libres.org /en/podcast/s4e16-linux-in-your-smartphone/
  • It appears that tarte.nuage-libre.fr has federation issues with moderation actions

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  • No, i don't have any ideas 😅


    Btw, i think you should separate hashtag with comma instead of #. :)

    If you want to get #foss #linux #mintYou should write words separated by comma in the hashtag field.

    Example :foss,linux,mint

    And piefed will separate them.

    Lastly point. If to want to use then efficiently, they must be common, popular. If you use : #digitalcommongood they may not appear in mastodon's user timeline because no one beside you use those hashtags. #foss are more common and that's up to you to find the correct one :)

  • Dunno about these bots. But you can ask the admin of feddit.online to check them : @jerry@feddit.online

  • Go to your community settings and then click on moderators. And add their username in the field.

    I recommend to create a post for recruiting mods on feddit.online.

  • That's part of limitation for first account created on piefed to prevent spam and bots. According to the wiki, you just have to wait 24h.

  • Most of mastodon users writes the hashtags in the body text, probably due to their character's limitation.

    So, on piefed, if we want to keep their message and make them readable, i think we would have to :

    • put detected hashtags in the hashtag field (we should do the same for peertube's video).
    • then remove the #, and separate words with camelCase.

    And for the coding part, i can't answer it. :)

  • PieFed Meta @piefed.social

    Piefed : CSS & personalization (user)

    piefed.social /community/fediverse/wiki/piefed-user-css
  • Art & Design @jlai.lu

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  • PieFed Meta @piefed.social

    Did you know that you can setup the default layout to "galery mode" for picture community on Piefed ?

  • Fediverse @piefed.social

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  • Fediverse @piefed.social

    Fediverse - The future will be federated and self-hosted - Elena Rossini

    www.projets-libres.org /en/podcast/s4e4-fediverse-the-future-will-be-federated/
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