rumimevlevi @ rumimevlevi @lemmings.world Posts 5Comments 159Joined 4 wk. ago
if saying historical fact making me justifying the death of civilians then you are justifying an society who 82% of them justify ethnic cleansing
Mandela was in the terrorist list too and like i said his party was responsible in civilians death. With your logic the dnc would had no right to fight the apartheid. Hamas is in the terrorist list for political reason. Only 40 out of 197 countries list it as a terrorist group. That doesn't mean that i don't think they committed any act of terrorism. If we apply the terrorism designation the usa , Canada , the British and the idf and any other countries responsible of war crimes would have been designed as terrorists
You may think that you don't ignore history but all what you say proof otherwise without realizing it. Israel been oppressing Palestinians since it's creation , every single prime minister was anti Palestinians and Israelis kept voting for those people . I don't mean that they deserve to die but Israelis is not the perfect population that west want us to believe
Yes in an ideal world both leaders would be removed and replaced with ones that actually want a peaceful solution but we are in a practical world. History show us that occupation lead to justified and unjustified retaliation. History show us that the colonizer need to be weaken enough to accept the occupied independence and freedom and this only happen with sanctions and armed resistance .
Instead of waiting for things that will never happen Palestinians will keep support who fight occupation even if those who fight may oppress internal opposition. Hamas support is strong even in Gaza despite desperation. Hamas is even more popular in the west bank because they don't live an as big hell as Gazans do
This is my view Israel should end occupation, a one or two state solution should happen and people responsible for atrocities on both side should be held accountable . This is the pragmatic way of seeing the problem
No , i am saying the hate was fueled by 57 years of occupation
Go back to reddit. Your propaganda won't work here
Yes, you are hating was you used to be and you would never lie people to hate you
Aren't the targets just recommendations. Canada should decide how much it spend based on it own needs
Do you think palestinians has right to armed resistance? Do some terrorist act by resistance group strip them to title of resistance? Do you think that israel leadership since it's creation was extremist believe in the idea that thry are the true holder of the land and not palestinians?
There vile actions is the product of 57 years of occupation and not blind hate for jews like tou try to claim
I never justified the murder of innocents
If we strip resistance groups from the right to armed struggle for some attrocities then you would oppose many liberation mouvement in previous colonized countries.
Nat turner killed innocent kids during his revolt. Mandela dnc party was reponisble of some civilian death. There is someone called nana sahib in occupied india who promised safety to both british civilians and soldiers but ended up massacting them
I don't justify violence but it is important to not ignore history and human nature when they feel desperation and opression .
If you really want things like 7 of october to never happen you should call for end of occupation instead of both siding the oppressed and oppresor
Hamas said they would drop arms once occupation end
You try to equate the oppresor violence with the oppresed violence due to desperation and being oppressed for 57 years. Consciensly or not this is apologia to colonization.
I think you deserve it
I always used agressive replies to people justifying the genocide. I never has any consorship issue.
You agree that both have ulterior motive right?
They already control the whole west bank . This will only make that official
Isn't summoning an ambasador just a performative action , did it ever lead to real changes?
Violence in terrorism in resistance group has zero influence on how the west was backed
The western media don't talk about the colonization when there is no hamas attacks. Most of the western west pro palestinians also only wake up when palestinian resistance escalate
The plo and fatah was always secular groups they was labeled as terrorist groups because they did armed resistance and of course with some terrorism operation
Without resistance groups regardless of if it is violent or not, israel would still maintain the occupation , settlers would keep harrasing palestinian and the west would be totally silent
This is the dangerous status quo that you don't realize that your logic imply
It is totally absurd that there is no significant real resistance . Occupied land always have real resistance.
The party who took power when my country tunisia and was part of the resistance was oppresing rivals it doesn't mean that they didn't care about the country. Same Hamas oppresion to palestinians who critisize it do not prove they are not resistance
Hamas are colaborating with other resistance groups , they wouldn't do that if they really want to crush them. The violence between the plo and hamas was both sided. The west and israel want you to believe that it was only hamas responsability
Of course just like they are arming illegal settlers in the west bank and protect them from repercussions
L'une des très rares fois où je suis d'accord avec le Bloc.