there is no such thing as an unbiased source

none of your arguments will hold water with the lived experience of most people. they don't want to see the disappointment in their grandma's eyes over something they don't believe, themselves, to be a just reason for turning down her cooking. they didn't see a problem with grabbing some food on their way to make the world a better place. your grandstanding is not only ineffective: it comes across as bizarre and unhinged.

I’m blocking you

oh thank god

You don’t argue in any sense of data or fact, just shitty little retorts amounting to nothing more than “no, actually”.

there's no data you've presented to discuss

you’re the worst, most bad faith debater I’ve ever had the displeasure of talking to

your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith

convenience isn’t a valid reason to do wrong

we've been over this: most people don't think it's wrong.

culture doesn’t permit amoral acts

we've been over this.

Plant based food is objectively cheaper

sometimes, for some people.

stick up for what’s right, don’t crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect

most people don't think eating meat is morally wrong.

just because it’s easier doesn’t mean it’s right.

i didnt say it's right. i said it's a reason people choose meat.

Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things.

i think you meant immoral. as it turns out, culture is a great reason to choose amoral actions, and most people think eating meat is amoral.

Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies.

this doesn't change the fact that, for some, in some situations, it is a better source of calories-per-dollar

cost, culture, & convenience are the ones I usually refer. gas station hot dogs are cheap and convenient. turning down family recipes put a social strain related to culture. those are two great examples that cover all three. I'm sure you can imagine more: stopping for a fast food burger on your way to protest at the Capitol, etc.

people do it just for pleasure

there are other reasons, and pretending there aren't won't help youconvince the people who continue to choose it.

it's a new post in the community

It’s actually pretty effective (at reducing demand for meat).

what makes you think that?

both your links rely on poore-nemecek 2018. this is not good research.

one of us is right.

The stalk just gets tossed in for efficiency’s sake because the cows can also digest it.

you literally don't know anything about feeding cows. just stop.

. If cows got more calories out of corn stalks than corn kernels, then they wouldn’t even finish growing the corn and would just feed them stalks.

I don't think so. they may get more calories from silage, but they prefer the kernels, which would help the feed go down easier.