dzsimbo @ dzsimbo @lemmy.dbzer0.com Posts 0Comments 43Joined 2 wk. ago
Oh yeah, hands down, no argument on the ancaps. I was just rolling the ball a bit further down the line in my head and couldn't get past 'power corrupts'.
Then I wrote out 3 paragraphs of drivel only to realize that if everyone realizes the agency they have over themselves, the notion of manipulation flies out the window.
Hmh, I think I like it here. A few weeks in and I can already see a clearer path to utopia. Thank you for the inspiration!
I'm not sure we will ever find a proper cure for cronyism. The beast is multifaceted. On the most familiar side, we trust our friends better, on the uglier side, you have to sate appetites for them to lend power. I see this as our last big trial towards actual Utopia.
You are right, I am projecting my 20th century values.
The Shrike is a force of nature that makes me pee myself just the teensiest bit.
Is this a troll site? Or just lawyers?
Worst pirate ever, but also the best kind of person!
As someone else said, they probably kept the original age bracket. I'd say it's at least 5-6 years out of whack. Early Ys are starting their forties, late ones their thirties.
I use Endeavour, btw. Nah, I don't think it'll catch one.
I'm super stoked to be on an Arch-based system, but things have been so easy I have earned no bragging rights what-so-ever with it.
With the salmon part, a bit, otherwise Hyperion. The Shrike is one of my favorite villains.
Well, thanks for being open. I feel we still didn't really address my concern, but that's alright. I see OP's post as a legit reaction to the emotions I got from there, even if they are clearly bad faith posting here.
Hey, maybe I'm just butthurt you didn't spoon feed me where I'm wrong, so no love lost.
I did get kinder responses, that is true. Though my main take-away wasn't a 'wow, these guys are awesome, I wanna read everything', more like a 'I'll only comment on anything political when and if I get past the literature they recommended'.
It is alright, I am sure the revolution will do just fine without my organizational skills. I am just arguing that OP is right to troll in this instance.
Again I want to emphasize, that I am really digging this convo, but I guess I have very little to lose as well. It feels like we are communicating, but I don't think I need to 'be the bigger man' by understanding the other side (these are my neuroses, no shade towards you, just where I'm coming from).
I feel you do understand me, yet don't really concede any points or validate them.
Goodness, does it ever.
But my problem was that the group put me in a box. Nobody wanted to know my level of education, just if I read this or that book on communism.
It is a totally fair reason not to engage in argument. It's just... How can I put it...? Just because I didn't read a book, I can't be knowledgable on a subject?
My guesses are that your community is so exposed to bad faith arguments, so you cannot give everyone the time of day. I haven't gone back to reread the thread, but you can probably see how I was basically backing into a corner through the whole thread.
The intensity of the argument isn't the problem, the illegitimacy of the argument is.
Yeah, I know OP is trolling. I see it is causing calls to not pull apart. Sure, maybe not every thread goes for the jugular on the hex server, but it fept by going against the grain I was a pariah immediately.
I mean at the end of the day it is petty squabbles on the internet, I just feel that we're missing out if we don't make a connection. Like, you seem smart, well read, and have a pretty novel world view that would interest me. I grew up in the context that communism is not of the devil, so it was terribbly disjarring that I finally saw a safe space to talk about the fallies of communism with hobby scientists on the matter.
I dunno, maybe I was devil's advocating and triggered a healthy response. It still feels off that I felt shut up there and now I see members of that community pleading for more open communication here.
Yup, that was me. Sorry for mixing you up. I guess you spoke to me like a human there first, that's why your name stuck.
I feel it still doesn't take away too much from my argument. While OP's post is outright malicious and is meant to start a fight, I wasn't doing that on what I thought was a proper place for discussion.
Again, I don't want to jump to conclusions, and I did make a mistake, but don't you see what I'm trying to get at?
It feels a bit disingenuous to hear the following:
to engage in productive conversation with Marxists.
I mean I got your point the other day, that I shouldn't necessarrily argue about Communistic dogma without reading all the literature, but I had to fight tooth and nail to get to that point and not just be waved away as a bad faith actor. So I was already working hard just to be told to go and read up.
OP is using the same intensity hammer you guys got going on over there. Is it fair?
In case anyone want's to read up, wikipedia link to "the father of public relations".
I'm pretty sure it's light-weight psyops. Gitmo got a cutesy name as well. Anyone not directly part of the silly walks ministerium doesn't give a nickname to something so serious.
Hmh. I am surprised to hear of this here first. Maybe I'm not subscribing to a balanced media diet, but I didn't know Paks II was on pause because of America. Troubling because any and all sides could have politicized it.
Hi Everyone!
I thought I'd stop by and share a bit. I'm one of those slower adopters who slouched over after reddit's api crash (i still use old.reddit to check in on my old.country), and am part of the wave that found their way here from lemm.ee. From my time on that instance my main take-away was that dialogue is more sincere on the lemmiverse than reddit, and I guess I'm not a tankie. Hex, eh?
I am really happy to have spotted this community in the wild. Just in the past hour I read up on new methods for reaching consensus, just by taking a cursory glance at guidelines and lore. This feels right.
I already wanted to argue how can anyone just pick one character, when I realized I already did as well. Maybe I can add more color in the next census. What's up with the 'other' catagory? Everything made emotional sense and then comes Elon Musk! How spicy.
Anywho, thanks for having me.
P.s.: I haven't really linked the lemm.ee account (not even sure if it's possible or worth it), but I have found some threads I was commenting on and followed up with the new account. If you go deep enough, you can see how I need to read up on my communistic script. Looking forward to figuring out how deep this rabbit hole goes.