This is a wild template

Yeah I believe that Lemmy has the best chances to compete with its proprietary inspiration, than every other fediverse product.

Mastodon needs endorsement of businesses/celebrities/politicians to become a viable alternative Twitter. This will probably never happen. The API changes in Twitter were far more brutal then the ones on Reddit, and many ended up joining Mastodon. Most will leave it again tho, because Mastodon does not have their favorite businesses/celebrities/politicians.

Peertube has no monetization program, which makes it even more irrelevant than Odysee.

Only Lemmy does not need huge amounts of cash or clout, to keep people on the platform. Reddit was a (relatively) democratic platform, most were anonymous and content for Reddit is easy to produce. Translating this into the fediverse with Lemmy works really well, as we can see here.

Threads will primarily influence Mastodon. Threads already eclipsed Mastodon in its first few hours. There is no need for EEE, because Threads has already decidedly won. Mastodon can not even scratch Threads. Threads is probably only interested in the fediverse, because of Tumblr. I personally think that Mastodon would gain more from Threads joining the fediverse, than Meta ever could, but we will see I guess.

Or perhaps just read a book -> based

The Japanese smartphone market is infamously very hostile. Impressive that a newcomer like Google managed to thrive there.

Does Apple Wallet have an API? It honestly feels like Google Wallet is just working towards copying all the Apple Wallet features slowly but surely.

I use Hannah Montana Linux btw

Would anything change on Lemmy, even if you federate with Threads?

You follow communities here on Lemmy, while on Threads you follow people. The only way for a Lemmy user to find a Threads user, would be looking for their username directly in the search bar.

In that sense, what does a Lemmy instance gain from defederating with Meta?

Fediverse right now is mostly used by a small group of enthusiasts.

If Meta joins the fediverse, the people who join Lemmy/Kbin/Mastodon instances will still be the same group of enthusiasts.

If Meta leaves the fediverse, you will also still have the same group of enthusiasts, that you have here right now.

I don't get why the EEE meme is so prevalent here. XMPP never died and big tech never even harmed it.

Best case: Big corps joining the fediverse could make the ActivityPub the de facto standard for a new generation of social media. Similar to how HTTP, Email or the Linux kernel is practically used everywhere now.

Worst case: The fediverse will remain as obscure as it is right now and nothing changes.

Federation with Meta will probably not have a huge effect on Lemmy. Threads has no communities after all.

It will probably be mostly a Mastodon thing.

That is the case for every PWA from every browser afaik.

Both Firefox and Kiwi PWA seem go ignore your default browser selection

I am pro-fediverse, so I guess making Mastodon atleast as easy to use as Threads is a must.

If you look at statistics, Mastodon always gains a massive amount of users, when Twitter does something stupid. Most of these also return back to Twitter, the moment they realize, that Mastodon has no VIPs.

If Threads integrates well with ActivityPub, then people on Mastodon will be more likely to stay, because Threads gives fediverse users access to the VIPs, that they used Twitter for in the first place. This stops people from leaving Mastodon in the short term.

In the long term Mastodon needs to advertise itself to younger people, because nowadays this is the only way for new social media platforms to establish themselves.

That's how TikTok, SnapChat and Instagram became popular. This would make Mastodon fresh, while Twitter would transform into a graveyard like facebook.

Also having more tech companies, media orgs, cultural orgs, universities and maybe even governments host their instances, would make the federated aspect stronger and the whole fediverse more scalable.

Hopefully Threads can tank all the lawsuits from Twitter, so that Mastodon can operate in peace lol.

I wonder tho, how much Threads has copied from Mastodon

Mastodon is a bubble. You have primarily highly educated, tech-literate nerds on that platform.

Obviously people are more civil and polite there, than some raging uneducated losers and trolls on facebook.

As the fediverse grows, the userbase will obviously lose this current isolated tech-wizard school vibe, and feel more like going into a random pub in a big city. Regardless if Meta joins the fediverse or not.

Threads is a Twitter competitor. Same applies to Mastodon.

Twitter is only useful because companies, celebrities amd politicians embrace it. Nobody cares about ordinary Twitter users. Twitter is a platform for networking with people in the industry and announcing stuff to customers.

Mastodon right now is not an alternative to Twitter, because there is practically nobody important there.

Threads has better chances to overcome this and has already in a few hours pulled more VIPs onto their platform, than Mastodon in multiple years.

XMPP was extremely niche before Google and it is slightly less niche right now. It did not die.

You can not destroy the fediverse with EEE in my opinion.

I mean Tumblr also wants to join the fediverse. They are smaller than Twitter, but still large to have some amount of influence.

Meta gets all the data as well, even if all people defederate.

ActivityPub has it in the name. All your activities in the fediverse are public.

The article talks about private data saved on your phone like health data, contacts etc. Threads takes those, Mastodon app does not.

As the fediverse grows, there will inevitably be more centralized instances. Every big tech corp may want to start their own instance, similar to how most tech corps provide their own mail services.

There are millions of email service providers, but Gmail and Outlook are synonymous to email for a large amount of people.

Defederating with Meta and Tumblr is like Protonmail blocking every mail from Gmail. You just cripple yourself and make your instance useless.

yeah, that's going to be my phone of choice as well, after my Galaxy S9 dies.

When I used Facebook a few years ago, my feed was mostly memes, ads and personal posts from friends and family.

Maybe I never got the ragebait political stuff, because everyone in my friend circle wasn't keen on being the sad guy that publicly yells at clouds on facebook.

Popular hashtags on Twitter and to some extend even on Mastodon, just makes you feel bad for the mental health of these perma-raging users tho.

Political spaces in general on every social platform are just magnets for misery.