@DolphinLundgrin @Zagorath I mean I don't agree. And a lot of the hospitals and schools etc were because the faith communities were the only ones prepared to provide such facilities for anyone who was not wealthy.
But on the other side - they should provide them for the people, not have any further input into the operation.
Also, faith - not the systematic structural organisation that is religion - can be a good thing for people.
@Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984 I think the real question is - are white men incompatible with democracy.
Because it seems like it at the moment.