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So why did you reply? lol

He wasn't figuratively lynched either lmao.

I have to police the entire thread for any kind of ableism, including comments made after I made that comment and not in response to me, and I have to spend my limited energy to call out every single person I see, otherwise I’m faking caring? Do I understand your point correctly?

Please actually address my questions if you're going to reply. Am I expected to personally police all ableism in the thread even if it's after I stop participating or not in response to me to be taken seriously when I call out ableism?

You two have to not be hypocrites, the other comment was removed by dbzer0 yet .ml’s ableism is allowed to stay.

Since we're on a dbzer0 comm, shouldn't you be asking the dbzer0 admins who moderate it about this?

It’s literally the definition of a civil war.

No, it isn't lmao. A huge number of people who fought against the CPC in the civil war went on to live in China afterwards. Some people switched sides. A civil war is fought for control over a country for many reasons, it's not "a giant fucking war against people who were ready to die to prevent themselves from being part of" the country afterwards. The only reason to frame the Chinese Civil War like this other than ignorance is to soft-pedal glorification of or apologia for the KMT, painting them as some kind of popular resistance movement against the CPC.

Is the difference that ita colonialism if you need a boat to get there? Because I should point out Taiwan is an island.

"at least some of the differences"

And this would be that cherrypicking I mentioned. I don’t fault that, because every method is cherrypicking, because there isn’t a “true” or “best” system.

I'm not advocating a true or best system, this is a thread about the hypocrisy of an American nationalist on twitter. However, if you think that the Chinese Civil War wasn't vastly "better" than colonialism (the comparison you seem to insist on making, for some reason), I think we have very little to say to each other.

China as it is now was formed by having a giant fucking war against people who were ready to die to prevent themselves from being part of China as it is now. Just like pretty much every other country in all of history.

This is an extremely strange way to describe the Chinese Civil War and the Second Sino-Japanese War. At best reductive in the extreme and at worst comically misleading.

The difference between china (and pretty much every other country in Europe and Asia) and the is that those wars were at least mostly fought by people who actually lived there.

OK, so you do understand at least some of the differences between civil war and settler colonialism.

My point is, you can’t just say “this country is X years old”, because it almost never is, and it always depends on cherry picking. You can say Germany turns 36 this year, or you can say it turns 1226. Italy was either created in 1946, or the 3600 years ago at the founding of Rome. China can start with the Zhou dynasty 3000 years ago, or with Mao 70 years ago.

You don't seem to understand the concept of a nation and are mixing it up with the concept of a state.

A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.

Joseph Stalin, Marxism and the National Question.

The Chinese nation is unquestionably older than any European or North American nation embodied in the current European and North American states, because there is unquestionably a Chinese culture that can be traced from those previous polities, which considered themselves Chinese. Even just considering a Chinese state/independent polity it would be ridiculous to say that it was founded 70 years ago. On the other hand, it's trivial to tell that the oldest possible date for the founding of America is very recent by comparison, so the person in the twitter screenshot is obviously a hypocrite, which is the whole point of the post.

None of those are completely true, and yet they aren’t entirely wrong either. Thats why these maps are stupid. Proclaiming your state to be the best because some people had a state where yours now is is pretty dumb.

So you do understand the point of the post.

And ALL of them got where they are by killing people who didn’t want to be part of their state. Every single one.

You've reduced all the complexities of history to a single sentence which serves only to obscure the crimes of settler-colonialism.

The US has been evil since pretty much always
Same for China
Same for Russia

lemmy.ca

lmao

This is historiography without object permanence. By your logic, France only exists since 1958. Russia only exists since 1991. Germany only exists since 1990. You're being even more ridiculous than the person in the twitter screenshot.

Not sure how there was any game being played.

I'm assuming you've never seen anything Noah Smith said before (I wish that was me). Look at the flags in his twitter handle. He's an American nationalist and a NATO imperialist. It's very clear that this is a fantasy about balkanizing China.

Death to the settler-colonial entity know us "The United States of America", sometimes called AmeriKKKa.

I don't see why it's funny to use a yellow bear to describe a Chinese man.

Oh, I see the problem. You need to become more racist! /s

Do you not think you're able to improve and do better by others? If you do, don't you think others are human as well and can also do so? If you don't, don't you think you should be more ashamed about it?