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A curated list of Mozilla’s founder’s thoughts on Mozilla & Firefox


<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski>
| Date | Post | | - | - | | 2013-10-02 | W3C green-lights adding DRM to the Web's standards | | 2020-09-23 | This is a pretty dire assessment of Mozilla | | 2022-01-06 | Mozilla blinked | | 2023-12-29 | Remember when Mozilla made a web browser? | | 2024-01-05 | My dinosaur just threw up in its mouth a little | | 2024-06-20 | Mozilla is an advertising company now | | 2024-06-22 | Mozilla's Original Sin | | 2024-10-03 | Mozilla's CEO doubles down on them being an advertising company now |
What's with all the hatred that Firefox has been getting lately?
cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7131235
> Look at this chud video here. > > It's just complaining about DEI, but why now? Apparently, Firefox has a "license" to all your data now. How much is that true? Is he just cherry-picking here, in this case? Librewolf or whatever it's called might be a better option. There's also Zen browser. > > I got this in my YouTube feed and didn't know it was more anti-DEI slop and now I'm not sure what to believe. Wish they didn't have to make it so political like they accuse others of doing. Ah well. But what is this I hear about Firefox having a "license" to all your data? > > I guess that's like a lot of browsers, tbh, but I suppose Firefox has higher standards, or did...
1934262 - Add DoH to the settings UI in Fenix
RESOLVED (sekim) in Fenix - Browser Engine. Last updated 2025-02-28.
cross-posted from: https://lazysoci.al/post/22508106
> DNS over HTTPS has been shipped for Firefox for Android Nightly
packages.mozilla.org: repo-signing-key.gpg
Hi there,
I wanted to migrate from the default Ubuntu Firefox snap installation to a deb-package-based one using the instructions on the official help site.
I do not just import keys without examining them first, so I had a look at the key from packages.mozilla.org:
pub rsa2048/C0BA5CE6DC6315A3 created: 2021-05-04 expires: never usage: SC trust: unknown validity: unknown [ unknown] (1). Artifact Registry Repository Signer <artifact-registry-repository-signer@google.com>
Now, what I don't understand is the identity containing a reference to Google instead Mozilla: "Artifact Registry Repository Signer <artifact-registry-repository-signer@google.com>"
Could somebody help me understand that?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Mozilla Fakespot - An AI Deepfake Detector
Fakespot spots, analyzes and identifies fake reviews and counterfeits - helping you out when buying stuff online.

Warning! This may be collecting data for advertising. From the Privacy Policy:
> We may use personal information to tailor and provide you with content and advertisements. We may provide you with these materials as permitted by applicable law. > > Some of the ways we may market to you include email campaigns, custom audiences advertising, and “personalized advertising” or “targeted advertising,” including through cross-device tracking. > > If you have any questions about our marketing practices or if you would like to opt out of the use of your personal information for marketing purposes, you may contact us at any time as set forth in "Contact Us" below.
How can I use local LLM in the firefox AI chatbot
Today I saw the AI chatbot in the sidebar for the first time (I remember turning the setting of in the Labs settings, but they turned it on IG). Looking the options, it supports a number of models, but all of them seems to be on a remote servers. Is there any way to use an LLM run on my own machine?
Reminder: Firefox has a good and privacy respecting local language translation of webpages builtin
I just recommended someone to use Firefox for its excellent translation capability. And I think my reply warrants an entire post, so here is a copy of my reply. This is just a reminder that you can visit websites with other languages too. However Japanese and Korean are not supported yet, which would be helpful for me. Hopefully they add the support soon. But for German in example it works:
You could use a translation tool, for something that looks interesting to you. At least Firefox makes this easy, with its builtin translation functionality (without Google as far as I understand, and I think local/offline only, but can be wrong). Firefox is my main way to interact with Lemmy:
Directly in the addressbar for non native languages: !
Or through menu:
BTW I just saw the link that describes it: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/website-translation
> Note: Unlike other browsers that rely on cloud services, Firefox keeps your data safe on your device. There's no privacy risk of sending text to third parties for analysis because translation happens on your device, not externally.
One more reason to use Firefox.
Edit: User Lazycog in the comments pointed out that you can also open a new tab for free text translations. Type about:translations
in the addressbar and you get this:
Edit: Another user Arthur Besse in the comments pointed out that you can translate current selection only too. And you need to install language packs, so those will be available offline too. Otherwise its online connected I assume.
Select text and right click, so you can translate that part only:
Go to Firefox General Settings page, scroll down to Translations section and download the packages you need. Also checkout what its own settings has to offer, for some customization:
Mozilla Settles Case Over Its Refusal to Hire Labor Activist
I edited the title to switch Apple with Labor because that's the real gist of the news item, not that they had worked and organised at Apple, although that's no small part.
I'm not sure if this paywalled so here is a archive.today link in case it is.
How to create bookmarks using javascript ?
I tried creating a single bookmark with search word But I can't get this to work. How can I bypass security to make it work ? Do I really have to enable debug mode ? Is it possible to switch debug mode without having to restart the browser (and discard all tabs)
Here is the code I tried
```
javascript:(async()=>{let t="S",n="GPT Classic",u="https://chatgpt.com/g/g-YyyyMT9XH-chatgpt-classic/?q=%25s",k="cc",g=(await PlacesUtils.bookmarks.search({parentGuid:PlacesUtils.bookmarks.toolbarGuid,title:t}))[0]?.guid||(await PlacesUtils.bookmarks.insert({parentGuid:PlacesUtils.bookmarks.toolbarGuid,title:t,type:PlacesUtils.bookmarks.TYPE_FOLDER})).guid;await PlacesUtils.bookmarks.insert({parentGuid:g,title:n,url:u}),await PlacesUtils.keywords.insert({keyword:k,url:u}),alert(Bookmark "${n}" added to folder "${t}" with keyword "${k}"!
)})();
```
Join Mozilla in testing the new Firefox address bar!
Crossposted from a community manager's post: https://reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1hwd6u7/join_mozilla_to_test_the_new_firefox_address_bar/
Hi r/firefox 👋,
The address bar is one of the most prominent areas in any browser, and Firefox is no exception. Understanding its importance, the Firefox team has been working on a set of complementary features designed to improve discoverability and security of the Firefox address bar.
With this set of features landing in Firefox Beta 135, we need your expertise to help us test these enhancements by participating in this campaign, which will be live on January 9th!
The top 5 contributors will each receive a $50 voucher to shop at Mozilla’s swag stores as a thank-you for your efforts.
Have any questions about this campaign? Join us on Matrix or comment down below!
Phoenix is a suite of configurations & advanced modifications for Mozilla Firefox, designed to put the user first - with a focus on privacy, security, freedom, & usability. - GitHub - cele...
Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated to the project.
Aside from the fact that it's relatively new and unknown, does this hold a candle to other Firefox-based projects? They seem to be competent by their own comparison tables.
Has anyone got any first-hand experience?
Mozilla chairman's salary vs Firefox market share (as of 2023)


From https://reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1hokr0c/mozilla_chair_pay_vs_firefox_market_share_2023/m4aca4j/:
Total 2022 pay: $6,903,089 Total 2023 pay: $6,260,072 - a $643,017 decrease Base chair pay: $600,000 2023 chair bonuses and other incentives: $5,622,600
Sources:
For comparison, here are other executive salaries ($0 bonuses for each)
|Executive name|Title|Total Pay (2023)| |:-|:-|:-| |MARK SURMAN|PRESIDENT & EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR|715,143| |J. BOB ALOTTA|SVP, GLOBAL PROGRAMS|508,138| |ANGELA PLOHMAN|COO, SECRETARY & TREASURER|452,234| |ASHLEY BOYD|SVP, GLOBAL ADVOCACY|427,701| |ZHILUN PANG|DIRECTOR OF FINANCE|273,069| |DAVID WALKER|SENIOR COUNSEL|268,565| |LAINIE DECOURSY|DIRECTOR, ORG EFFECTIVENESS|267,028| |JUAN BARANI|SENIOR DIRECTOR, GIFT PLANNING|262,879| |STEPHANIE WRIGHT|SR PROGRAM MANAGER, MOZFEST|236,785|
How to remove Firefox Color theme?
Solution: I just needed to disable Firefox Color in about:addons
.
I set a theme with Firefox Color, I tried changing the theme in settings to light or dark but neither work. I'm wondering if there are other ways to do so in Firefox that I could try. I'm on zen browser which is why it may not have worked.
Help: Redirecting to sh.reddit.com submit doesn't work with Redirector addon
Solved: It turns out I needed to add https://
to the redirect URL. I now edited the redirect to be this:
{ "createdBy": "Redirector v3.5.3", "createdAt": "2024-12-25T00:25:04.487Z", "redirects": [ { "description": "sh.reddit.com submission page", "exampleUrl": "https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/submit?selftext=true", "exampleResult": "https://sh.reddit.com/r/firefox/submit?selftext=true", "error": null, "includePattern": "https://.?reddit.com/((r|u|user)/.?/submit.*)", "excludePattern": "", "patternDesc": "", "redirectUrl": "https://sh.reddit.com/$1", "patternType": "R", "processMatches": "noProcessing", "disabled": false, "grouped": false, "appliesTo": [ "main_frame" ] }, ] }
Using the Redirector addon, I wrote a redirect from a Reddit submit page to the new new Reddit submit page but it doesn't work when I go to https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/ and click "submit text", it just takes me to https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/submit?selftext=true despite the link working in the example box.
Reproduction: Install the addon, save the following as a json file, click on addon icons and select "edit redirects", then click import to select the json file.
{ "createdBy": "Redirector v3.5.3", "createdAt": "2024-12-22T15:43:42.356Z", "redirects": [ { "description": "sh.reddit.com submission page", "exampleUrl": "https://old.reddit.com/r/tds_roblox/submit", "exampleResult": "sh.reddit.com/r/tds_roblox/submit", "error": null, "includePattern": "[a-z]+?:\\/\\/.+?reddit.com\\/((r|u|user)\\/.+?\\/submit.?$)", "excludePattern": "", "patternDesc": "", "redirectUrl": "sh.reddit.com/$1", "patternType": "R", "processMatches": "noProcessing", "disabled": false, "grouped": false, "appliesTo": [ "main_frame" ] }, { "description": "Old Reddit", "exampleUrl": "https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit", "exampleResult": "https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit", "error": null, "includePattern": "[a-z]+?:\\/\\/.?\\.reddit\\.com\\/(((r|u|user)\\/.)|$)", "excludePattern": "[a-z]+?:\\/\\/.+?reddit.com\\/((r|u|user)\\/.+?\\/submit.?$)", "patternDesc": "", "redirectUrl": "https://old.reddit.com/$1", "patternType": "R", "processMatches": "noProcessing", "disabled": false, "grouped": false, "appliesTo": [ "main_frame" ] } ] }
What are your thoughts on Zen Browser becoming a lot more popular than Floorp?
Right now is the best period of time yet for Firefox-based browser, especially when most alternative browsers are Chrome-based.
While there are a bunch of forks like Librewolf and Palemoon, they provide features mainly for power users like hardened privacy and tweaked user-prefs. A year ago the only fork I knew of, based on recent stable versions of Firefox and added productivity features on top was Floorp. I was very surprised at the hype and sudden popularity of Zen Browser in the past few months and have been curious why it grew so much faster than Floorp which has been around for much longer, look at the Github star graph: https://star-history.com/#zen-browser%2Fdesktop=&Date=. Zen Browser currently has 19.3K stars while Floorp has 6.1K.
Reasons I can think of are the following: heavy promotion of the browser by the devs and community on places like Reddit along with emphasizing its 'zen' philosophy, really fast development (it now has way more features than Floorp), and the Zen mods store, where you can install CSS mods.
What are your thoughts and reasons for Zen Browser becoming so popular so fast? (while its not mainstream, it did grow fast in among Firefox and power users)
Adding Custom Search Engine - Self Hosted
Recently I started using my own self hosted search engine - LibreX...
When I went to add it as the default search engine for Firefox on the desktop - I found that the option to add custom search engines gone (replaced with a 'smarter' way??)
Here is the work around I found..
Go to the about:config page
Paste browser.urlbar.update2.engineAliasRefresh into the search area and set the value to True
Now when you go to the Settings page, you should see an Add button to add a custom search engine (like you used too...)
My red heart emoji (❤️) looks weird in #Firefox


My red heart emoji (❤️) looks weird in #Firefox
This has been the case for quite a while now and I cannot for the life of my figure out why that is. I never explicitly made it this way. It's only in Firefox and a machine with pretty much the exact same #NixOS config does not exhibit this issue.
I tried clearing unused fonts out of \~/.local/share/fonts/
(no emoji fonts remain) and updated the fc-cache but it didn't help. (Obviously I restarted Firefox.)
Any ideas?
Celebrating 20 years of Firefox – These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 171
Highlights Firefox is turning 20 years old! Here's a sneak peek of what’s to come for the browser. We completed work on the new messaging surface for the AppMenu ...

One of the advantages of Relay is that it is agnostic of your email provider, making it easier to switch providers without having to change the email on every account that has an alias.
Considering this, I'd be tempted to go with Addy.io instead of ProtonMail / SimpleLogin (subsidiary of Proton AG).
If you're concerned with having to trust a third-party to process your emails however, Proton may be the better option with built-in aliasing. Mailbox.org is another option recommended by privacy guides with built-in aliasing.
If you're concerned with Mozilla's TOS change however, you may also be concerned with the Proton CEO implicitly supporting the current Trump presidency, believing that the Republicans will do a better job reigning big tech in (While I'll agree that the democrats are not anti-corp, that died with Bernie, I think it's foolish to believe the republicans will be better). They also pulled their entire media presence on Mastodon, and recently integrated Zoom despite explicitly stating that it has privacy issues in their blog.
I think some people are being a bit extreme in their characterization of Proton AG right now, but it definitely feels like they're making some peculiar choices when looking at their guiding mission of privacy / security.

The Accrescent app store also has IronFox.
I got it from Droidify - an alternative frontend for F-Droid that comes with a bunch of common repositories added as standard. Ironfox is available!
As for other mobile Firefox gotchas, one that’s bitten me is the PolyTrack occasional lag when switching tabs—sometimes it drops inputs if I’m mid-comment and swipes too fast.

IronFox is a fork of Divested Computing Group's Mull Browser, based on Mozilla Firefox. Our goal is to continue the legacy of Mull by providing a free and open source, privacy and security-oriented web browser for daily use.

Try Fennec.

I’ll probably stick with FF-derivatives like LibreWolf & Mullvad unless & until Mozilla changes something that ruins things downstream. If they do, I’d consider my WebKit-based options.

A curated list of jwz’s comments on Mozilla, the organization he started 27 years ago.
Date | Post |
---|---|
2013-10-02 | W3C green-lights adding DRM to the Web's standards |
2020-09-23 | This is a pretty dire assessment of Mozilla |
2022-01-06 | Mozilla blinked |
2023-12-29 | Remember when Mozilla made a web browser? |
2024-01-05 | My dinosaur just threw up in its mouth a little |
2024-06-20 | Mozilla is an advertising company now |
2024-06-22 | Mozilla's Original Sin |
2024-10-03 | Mozilla's CEO doubles down on them being an advertising company now |

I’m not sure if the issue lies on Discourse. The software itself is FOSS.
AFAIK I didn’t saw any limitation on the on-prem edition, so I don’t get it why a company like Mozilla doesn’t have the resources to handle that.
And, even if they are using Discourse’s Cloud infrastructure, it’s not common for services to reach the end of payment without sending a ton of warnings.

It seems to be related to that: https://github.com/mozilla-services/autograph/blob/main/signer/contentsignaturepki/README.md.
Edit: so, from what I understand: when Mozilla send some data to your browser, your browser will call this service to see if the content received is signed by Mozilla.

pacman -S w3m
looking for conflicting packages...
Package (1) New Version Net Change Download Size
extra/w3m 0.5.3.git20230713_1-1 2,06 MiB 0,98 MiB
Total Download Size: 0,98 MiB
Total Installed Size: 2,06 MiB
:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] Y
[Citation Required]
You could read it, it's pretty short.
Here's what the AUP says about porn:
You may not use any of Mozilla’s services to:
- ...
- Upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that includes graphic depictions of sexuality or violence,
- ...
So yeah, in that sense it "says what it says about porn." It's just that "what it says about porn" is in a list of things you can't use their services for and before the only mention of how to use their "product."
Through their various agreements and terms Mozilla makes a clear distinction between products and services and has clear guidelines on how you can use them. When the TOS says "obey the AUP" and the AUP says "don't use our services for porn and don't sell our products or services" then viewing porn with their product is not a violation of their AUP and thus not a violation of their TOS.
Ultimately, however, the final decision would have to be resolved in court.
I swear that, at one point, the Mozilla websites said that every company under the MoCo banner would uphold the same ethical values as the Foundation, its parent, espoused. If that's still the case, it seems Mozilla is still sort of upholding their consistency, but it's eroding the base product.
Personally, I don't see any reason to sell any of that data to advertisement corporations. Not browsing history, not physical location, not compiled profiles of its users! (Up until December 2024, Mozilla's other in-house AI product, Orbit, also gave FakeSpot a shout-out for unknown reasons...)
Mozilla FakeSpot promises that the following "is Sold and/or Shared [with] Advertising partners":
- "browsing history, search history"
- "Geolocation data"
- "a profile about a consumer"
Instead of aligning FakeSpot (which they bought in 2023) with their pro-privacy stance, it seems they are realigning their stance with their actual activity.
Brownie points for being honest, I guess.

Your use of Firefox must follow Mozilla’s Acceptable Use Policy
That sentence says you have to obey the AUP, and the AUP says what it say about porn, gambling sites, etc.
The only part of the Acceptable Use Policy that pertains to products is “You also may not sell, resell, or duplicate any Mozilla product or service without written permission from Mozilla.”
[Citation Required]
Otherwise, you're just attempting to obfuscate in an intellectually dishonest way.

(according to a Firefox forum response)
That's not legal or binding though.
They need to update their ToS legal declarations to specify that explicitly.

According to Brody (starting at 4:16, 5:45-6:15), the new ToS/Acceptable Use Policy combo prevents you from looking at porn now.
I'm not sure if that's what they've intended, but that's the ramifications of what their changes are implementing.

Yeah I think the "you" in "help you navigate [...]" is the key but it is way too broad. I had a quick look to the privacy notice and it seems quite reasonable. For each feature they either :
- process data locally (eg. for translations)
- anonymise it before sending it to partners (eg. affiliated searches 💩)
- store a minimal amount of information (eg. for FF account)
There is a paragraph about partners being legally binded to comply to their privacy policy, I guess this is about cloud providers? 🤷
So I hope they'll take the time to clarify that...
I really hope an explanation is forthcoming as to why they need all data. It is concerning that a "privacy-focused" browser doesn't take the time to explain that.
Until they do, I think I'm gonna give WaterFox a whirl.

Good question.
I see that the file served from https://packages.mozilla.org/apt/repo-signing-key.gpg is the same as the file at https://packages.cloud.google.com/apt/doc/apt-key.gpg
Apparently Mozilla outsources the operation of the Firefox APT repo to the Google Cloud "Artifact Registry" service 😦