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The Smear Campaign Against Zohran Mamdani Failed. That’s a Huge Deal.
The Smear Campaign Against Zohran Mamdani Failed. That’s a Huge Deal.
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The Smear Campaign Against Zohran Mamdani Failed. That’s a Huge Deal.
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But Cuomo tried very hard to turn it into a referendum on Mamdani’s views on Israel and Palestine—and the media establishment took the bait.
It's weird this is an issue in a mayoral campaign in the USA. The role has no foreign policy authority whatsoever, and Palestine/Israel is 5700 miles from NYC.
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He’s about to raise taxes on ~350k millionaires, while increasing wages and lowering the cost of groceries and rent. It’s everything Trump promised in his campaign, but he’s doing it the exact opposite way.
When it works, Trump is gonna look like a dick, and the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.
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the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.
What's that old saying like "none are so blind as those who will not see"? I feel like people are so emotionally invested in "socialism bad, democrats bad" that it's going to be hard for them to accept contradicting that.
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Yes. We are talking about dumbasses that like the ACA, but hate "Obamacare" - which apparently has "death panels"....
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The insurance companies are the death panels.
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That's definitely true for many Republicans, but I think a successful term as mayor for Zohran has potential to really change things for the Democrats. If, after hearing from establishment Democrats for decades that the only way we can change things is so incrementally, not only can we not make progress, but we actually have to accept going backwards pretty often, you have a mayor who delivers some fairly sweeping changes, it could open the eyes of many Democrat voters to the lies that they've been fed by party leadership to excuse themselves for sitting on their hands while things fall apart around them.
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I think there's some truth to this. Specifically, a lot of people are sort of reflexively conservative. That is, they don't like change. If zohran gets free bus fare in, a lot of people who fight it now will fight to keep it.
I think some famous conservative said something once about how they can't let social programs get in because people like them too much.
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It won’t work because, like every socialist system everywhere, capitalists will seek to undermine and interfere.
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At least someone else on your home instance noticed and admits it.
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Shit what's wrong with .world?
I just set up my new account there because mine is about to die. Do I need to go elsewhere?
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The .world admins are… Not great. There have been several instances of them cozying up to users with unfortunate viewpoints. It’s not as bad as Reddit, but it’s certainly not great either.
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I have had multiple comments removed for “misinformation” because I outlined historical context that goes against anti-communist rhetoric. All factual stuff that anyone could google, but it makes communism look not terrible so the mods of .world removed it.
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Any recommendations? Is your instance decent?
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DBzero is where I would sign up if I weren't best suited to blahaj zone. Highly recommend
(I'm not the person you asked though)
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I'm not best suited to blahaj but the way you put it and how I feel about it make me think you're right. Thanks!
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They're not generally fans of communism, plus the other replies. Your preferences may vary.
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Just block and move on.
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The person I asked are the instance? Because the instance seems okay but I haven't really looked
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You may also check instances that are de/federated as well, and may want to join several instances just to get a different mix, even if de/federation is similar. You can use the same username on them, assuming it's not already in use.
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The person. I already had them blocked.
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Trump is already deeply unpopular in NYC, so it’s not likely to change anything on the national stage. New Yorkers have been seeing Trump’s BS on parade for decades now. It won’t change New York’s opinion of Trump.
Nationally, it might. But that’s only if the media actually runs with it; The big news orgs are all in bed with the established politicians, so they’ll likely be smearing him left and right to avoid having it turn into a national shift.
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he can propose a tax raise but it still has to get through state legislators and the governor. i dunno about the rent and grocery stores. I'm all for this guy but he's going to need everyone's help making any real changes. i really hope we see it happen!
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Rent-stabilized apartments already exist in NYC. They are subject to regulations, so prices can be bureaucratically frozen.
He has proposed city-owned grocery stores, that would save money on rent and property taxes, forcing competitive pricing on groceries in NYC, and reducing the insane inflation rates we see. During the bird flu, eggs hit $13/dozen, for example.
He’s also looking to increase the city minimum wage to $30/hr, and make the city bus free for residents.
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New York City has its own income taxes.
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that aren't set by the mayors office, but the state
edit: so many confidently incorrect people responding to me, bug off. bunch of argue bros trying to google their way to being right. Albany and the governor are involved in what he wants to do, the governor has already addressed this, he has already addressed this, idk what to tell you loons. blocking any more reply guys.
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The existing one is set by the state, but I'm not aware of anything precluding the city for introducing its own. They wouldn't be set by the mayor's office as mayors don't actually make laws, but I don't see how this is a state matter. Certainly none of the coverage about it has said it's ultimately up to Hochul.
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idk what to tell you except that this is very easy to verify. NYC city taxes are set by the state and the governor has to approve them as currently set up. Hochul the democratic governor has already said she isn't interested in this plan so it's a fight. I'm not interested in discussing it with you any further have a nice day.
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Yes, but you're talking about the current taxes. Is there a law saying they can't institute additional taxes themselves? Because the proposed tax is an entirely separate thing and unless that's precluded by law the existing tax doesn't really matter. Adams had to go through the state because he wanted to reduce the existing tax.
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That’s incorrect. The New York City Council sets the NYC property and income tax rates. Taxes are collected by NYS.
https://www.nyc.gov/site/taxcommission/about/about-the-nyc-tax-commission.page
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i don't think your link says what you are pushing but i'm done arguing about it, have a nice day!
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If he does. He hasn't done anything yet.
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So, he's planning to decrease the value of Trumps places... Dangerous moves... I still wait for the first US politicians and judges that work against the Forth Reich to causually fall from windows.
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Yeah but he's doing it for those NYC liberal elites, so improving their way of life is a bad thing you see.
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Socialism has failed every time it's been attempted, for one very good reason.
I fully expect the CIA to get involved. Probably before the general election even happens.
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He’s not implementing socialism. He’s using democratic socialism, an existing facet of our economy, on city-wide needs.
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Social Democracy, really, but Americans insist on using the wrong name.
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They’re both correct, depending on the context. A social democracy is a system of government. Democratic socialism is an ideology.
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Oh and another child left behind...
Are you christian? How come? This Joshua Ben Josef guy had some quite "social" ideas... Like the needles eye thingy, the love their neighbors, etc... etc...
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I never understood why they put needles in camel's eyes. That's some fucked up shit.
Christians are weird.
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Totally!
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Lol what a strange stretch. I'm not Christian, I'm an atheist socialist annoyed at how the US government has historically worked to overthrow socialism everywhere in the world.
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Somehow most "good god fearing american partiots" forget that their messiah was quite a social revoluzer and aramaic jew.... Actually I'm pissed that the guy and his posse that reigns my country atm are the great Trump and his band of fashists ass kissers and do not have the balls to say where the real problems are located
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There's a huge Jewish population in NYC, and many mistakenly assume that all of them support what Israel is doing. To a lot of people Judaism=Zionism.
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Even if that assumption were correct, the mayor of NYC cannot meaningfully aid or hinder Israel's actions. A politician's position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they're seeking doesn't usually influence my vote.
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The oligarchs can't win on the merits of their policies, so they desperately resort to identity politics to try to divide us.
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There might be some things the mayor could do, like joining boycotts, etc.
Certainly he can stop or interfere with the crackdown on pro-palestinian dissent in the city which has been extreme under Adams and Trump.
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A politician's position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they're seeking doesn't usually influence my vote
You're probably the minority on that
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That would be interesting to find out.
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That's a weird assumption. Many Jews strongly oppose it, including Bernie Sanders, Jon Stewart, Ben and Jerry from the ice cream, and probably millions of less famous Jews.
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Plus, Israel is super unpopular right now. Mainstream media and establishment politicians don't get this. The more they criticize Mamdani for his lack of allegiance to Israel, the more people will vote for him!
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MSM used to know that they needed to smear anti-Israel candidates on other subjects. They got high on their own supply. Probably because they fired all the non zealots.
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I think they are used to the old world in which being able to intentionally conflate being anti-Israel with "antisemitic" and have that bullshit being swallowed by most people.
The days of them being gatekeepers on that in particular are long, long gone. It is and always was complete horseshit to label anyone critical of Israel running an open-air prison "antisemitic", but for most of my lifetime, that was just de rigueur. If anyone were to question it, you'd have most of the left and the right coming down on them.
I think the more that MSM continues to try to cling that, the more they will lose credibility on lots of other things. At least some of them now seem to recognize that most of us think their "both sides" framing is complete horseshit and it's become nearly a punchline, finally, after all these years. They will probably cling to that even harder than the Israel gatekeeping they do. Related, I think they'll really resist calling the lying liars on the right out on their lies and invective the most.
As an example, I constantly see most of them not even blink when a prominent Republican sits there and talks about the "Democrat Party". Anyone in media must know this is an intentional and constant slur and yet, they don't call them out on it. I'd like to see them sitting there and not correcting the Republicans and asking why they INSIST on this constant insult taken as nearly the same punchline as "both sides" framing is right now and start to change their behavior. They have been letting the Republicans do this for decades and they know full well what is going on, and do nothing. I'm so sick of that. It's no small thing, it's a corollary to the "both sides" framing that is so harmful to our nation - letting Republicans sit there and insult most of the country as well as lie brazenly and not get called out on it as to what they are doing....
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Yeah the most bizarre thing to me was seeing the debate and hearing a question about foreign nation visits
Like wtf is a city mayor doing visiting other countries and why would we care
That was super weird. It was trying to bait out mamdani and other progressive views about Israel but man what a word question for a mayoral race
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NYPD has a field office in Kfar Saba. So, possibly more pertinent than it should be.
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Well there's my surprising fact of the day.
Looks like it's just one officer, but it seems like they could do outreach and intelligence sharing without someone permanently stationed there.
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NYPD has offices all around the globe. Because... 9/11 or something.
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New York has a big Jewish population.
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