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Pro-AI mod and self-proclaimed 'communist' got mad for being downvoted.

Summary:

I downvoted pro-AI comments in a post in leftymemes community. It was LLM generated polandball comic (Which is objectively pathetic as fuck) that showed up on my feed, blocked couple of users who I thought were unhinged, and have blocked the whole instance on my client after realizing how rabid these morons are.

I didn't go looking for AI posts like a vigilante.

One user in question got miffed for being downvoted and banned me from places they moderate.

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  • I blocked the whole community after seeing bullshit like "no rule against AI means you must imply that any criticism of AI is against the rules"

    • I have been debating whether or not to block the entire db0 instance because of its pro-AI stance. It's weird to me that a self-proclaimed anarchist instance is so pro-GenAI garbage. Even the reasoning of being pro-AI because it's anti-copyright is dumb as fuck.

      • Yeah they see themselves as “seizing the means of production” but they aren’t doing shit. You aren’t a freedom fighter using Ai. You are just another tool in their machine and you are giving them more power.

      • They aren't pro corpo Ai.

        They're very much against the mass scraping/ddos ai companies are doing.

        Hell, db0 contributes to !techtakes@awful.systems a lot.

      • Everyone should block that corporate bootlicking pro-AI shithole, they're bad news and nothing good can ever come of them.

  • LLM generated polandball comic

    WHY

    i literally just made one in like 5 minutes, and i didn't even need a good or interesting idea. i put in the minimum amount of effort. they are literally balls with no mouth, nose or any other detail, just a circle, a flag and two eyes

    • AI bros aren't logical, they'd rather put in no effort to have a machine barf out crap then claim they made it.

      • Thing is, as someone who has fooled around with locally hosted image gen, it's actually sometimes a whole fucking lot of work to try and bend prompts to get the stupid algorithm to spit out what you want. They'd rather put in a shit tonne of effort for an objectively worse result.

  • I noticed this a while ago but just found it funny and moved on. I think they rage ban anyone who posts here. The reason why someone who apparently is very pro-AI would visits an Anti-AI community just to be angry eludes me.

  • I keep seeing dbzer0.com paired with some unhinged opinions. Is it a good site to block in general, or should I continue my current trajectory of just blocking the names I see making these opinions public?

    • dbzer0.com is a good instance for things like piracy, privacy and other "non-standard" uses of technology. It is very anarchist.

      • So many people use "anarchism" in their identity that I just don't trust it. I mean there's anarcho-capitalists for starters... If there's a strong culture of pro-AI there, thought, that may be enough on its own to just get rid of them.

    • All instances are a group of individuals. If you're looking for a community without any assholes at all, let alone instance, you're in for a very unhappy surprise.

      I'm reminded of an old small-community MMO I used to play where one player literally blocked anyone who said anything they didn't align with. It wound up with them pretty much asking questions in world chat and wondering why no one would answer, even though they got like 4 answers.

      So if you're out to block every instance that has people in it with unhinged views, your lemmy is going to be very quiet someday. That might be how you want it, so I'm not saying don't do it. You do you. I'm just saying that you can't find gold without digging through dirt. Blocking a whole instance based on individual comments/posts that you've seen just seems a bit extreme to me.

      • dbzer0 instance admin is pro-LLM slop. I'm fine with blocking the whole instance.

      • Oh, I'm aware that "no assholes" is an impossible dream. But if I start seeing assholes and idiots increasingly attached to specific instances, it's incentive to perhaps just drop that instance. Different instances have different moderation policies and different target communities. For example "hilariouschaos" is an instance for people who've never left that 13-year old sremoveding stage where "bewbs" is a word with intrinsic hilarity. So I can axe them comfortably.

    • It's libshit as fuck.

  • I was also in that thread and have blocked the whole instance. Literally the first thing I did when I made my account was block the AI images communities, because I don't want it in my feed. The .dbzer0 mods have now made it clear that every comm on their instance is an AI image comm, and if you talk about it or complain, you can expect your comments to be removed in the same way they would be if you went into a specifically AI image community. Like, not only is there no requirement or expectation that it be tagged as AI, but you can't even expect to see it mentioned in the comments because that'll be censored. They're really trying to shove it down everyone's throats and ban anyone who complains.

    "Being anti-AI is intrinsically reactionary" is a direct quote from Unruffled. None of them are at all open to hearing criticism or discussion about it.

  • I was participating in the comment section of that post, and I was actually defending the criticism of* using AI for memes, but I agree that mods over there are... a little too proactive. Like, I was debating with a person and their comments were getting removed. Sure, I disagreed with that person, but their comments weren't particularly outrageous as to be removed.

    On the other hand, it seems that both communities have a couple "outspoken vegan" kind of members whose intent is to be the guy from "stop having fun!" meme. Which causes mod overreaction.

  • I crossposted this thread to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and here was db0's response

    Not surprising whatsoever. Someone should really make an alternative to that community that isn't on dbzer0. YPTB is biased as fuck and they're not above accusing people like us of sowing drama just because they don't like criticism of their slop.

  • I've seen a few tankies buying hard into the "AI" grift. Gotta remember these people support the attack on ukraine. They're easily misled due to their support of authoritarianism, etc.

    But on the other hand... That particular comm is for people who enjoy generated art. They don't want to hear the same old attacks... I dunno about a downvote though.

    • Sorry to cut in, but dbzer0 is NOT a tankie instance, it's an anarchist community. From my perspective we are pro-ukraine, pro-ai because fuck copyrights and very far from authorianism, and we protect our own.

      As you said, this does not come out of nowhere. The instance rule against anti-ai-commenting in our communities stems from some very unpleasant visits from people who are pretty misled regarding AI, which leads to lots of off-topic discussion and comment trolling (for example under a polandball meme, where the way it was created is completely irrelevant).

      This rule was voted on by our community , and says:

      • To protect our communities, community members and mods from abuse: no comment trolling, dogpiling, or downvote trolling is allowed.

      This rule only applies to communities where GenAI is not disallowed by community rules, so mods can opt in or out.

      On the whole i would say our instance does not agree with what is done with the technology by the corpos, dislike that it is shoved into everything even if it doesn't belong there, but acknowledge that it is a tool like any other to express oneself creatively. The problem is capitalism, not GenAI.

      Enabling people to realize creative ideas on the fly without having to learn every skill to get an acceptable result, or reducing the amount of work needed, is exactly what it is for - just like a shovel makes digging a hole very much faster than using bare hands.

      Anti-GenAI users have plenty of platforms to share their view, and it is not ok to come barging into the few places where GenAI is expressly allowed or even the main theme of the community.

      Edited to add: Copyrights in their current form are just legal weaponry wieded by corpos against simple users (remember how they sued simple people for downloading crappy pop songs? That's the pro-copyright-side) and against artists themselves.

      In an ideal world, creation of the datasets would be a mission for UNO, for creating a snapshot of human culture. The datasets should be free to use in noncommercial settings and paid if used commercially, to generate income to distribute to artists, who can opt out if they don't want their work included. That's at least what i would wish that the future holds for us.

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