Enshittification only hurts product itself.
Enshittification only hurts product itself.
Fixed version: https://lemmy.world/post/21827096
Enshittification only hurts product itself.
Fixed version: https://lemmy.world/post/21827096
This implies Windows isn’t already enshittified, which is very much not the case.
Start menu ruined. All the UI is garbage. Fucking OneDrive.
I'm over it. Shopping distros as we speak.
Edit - Making this edit from a fresh Linux Mint install. Cheers.
I don’t even use Windows, and just reading about what’s happened to the Start menu pisses me off.
I know i didn't mind putting up with a lot of Window's bullshit, but I'll never understand why they removed the single button click to create a folder in the files viewer. They moved it to a drop down. Idk if I'm the outlier but 90% of the time I used file viewer was to create folders because it was just one click of a button, but they just had to take that away lol
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The final straw was when win10 started putting ads in the start menu. The start menu is so broken and bloated....
I understand the rage with the start menu and, even though I am indifferent to the ui, I accept that mist people hate it. But what about onedrive? It seems to be one of the worst features for everyone, but I just have it disabled and only use it when I want to. Turn off all backup features, move it to another drive and disable auto start.
Maybe that's where the loop starts.
everyone say goodbye to the wonderful decadess of lean, efficient, bloat-free Windows we have known and loved up until Windows 11!
it's been smooth sailing until windows 11!
Windows 7 was the last good Windows. It was a nice polished OS that had the last decent search feature. 8 was a mess (it started without a start button) and then all the bloat/ads that came with 10 and above
Windows XP was the last good Windows. It had zero bloat, and heck, it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account. It didn't have those pesky UAC notifications, and it would allow you to install each individual Windows KB Update. It didn't have that high RAM usage that the Aero design had. There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.
Someday we will find Windows 9.
We said goodbye to that since Windows 8. Windows has been shit since Windows 8.
How young are you?
Windows 8 has some great improvements under the hood. I especially like the task manager changes. But people couldn't take the start menu looking different, broke their little heads. Shouldn't have even mattered, the correct way to use the start menu is hit the windows key, type the first 4 letters of what you want to launch, and hit enter
Windows has been shit waaaaaaaaay longer than any of those. MS always "fixes" it afterwards just enough to become usable
To be fair, Windows has huge, maybe even unreasonable, demands placed on it for backward compatibility due to corps not wanting to dump their 30 year old legacy software. And to Microsoft's credit, they actually manage to do that pretty well while maintaining a reasonably stable OS. Most of the time, anyway.
The increasing interest in using Windows as a conduit for ads and data collection is what they really chafes me and is the primary reason I'm slowly moving away from Windows.
And here I am with older games crashing all the time on newer windows.
Exactly that. 7 was fine. I got used to 10 with tweaks. 11 will never touch any device I own. Fuck everything they've done to Windows in recent years.
Windows was shitty after the superior WinXP. I'd argue 98 was all I needed but XP was when disk scanning/defragmenting was baked in.
Windows 10 will be the last version of windows
Introducing Windows 11
Liars.
Winbloats was arguably the first one of this list to get enshitiffied. I remember being a 12 yo trying to find an alternative to winbugs because the microsoft account login was required. It's got worse since then
Yeah its the original example of enshittification for sure
I've been here since Windows 3.0. I'm not sure when this mythical not-shit Windows was. There were a few I could live with, but none that were good.
But Windows is unique in that it can fit a whole lot of shit in it. Way more than one could imagine.
Minecraft, Chrome etc are a 7 litre compost caddy of shit. Windows is a vast open country waiting to be turned into landfill of human waste.
if you can manage to get the IOT LTSC windows 11, it has a ton of that stuff removed by default. it makes it much faster and saves drive space.
The Win 10 IOT LTSC version does the same but better.
For those who don't want 11 anyway.
And it was bad long before then.
Oh enshittification is coming for Windows. In the future. Like it hasn't happened yet or wasn't the first and worst of these companies for it to come for. But something that hasn't happened yet, not in the past. Interesting.
Windows was good until Vista ... then it seemed every second version was a pile of shit (7 good, 8 crap, 10 ok, 11 ugh).
I personally like 11 more than 10, mostly because its same as 10 but with better UI. 10 was very bland.
When did Minecraft get Enshittified?
Bedrock is pretty full of microtransactions, upsells, and ads, and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
But the core gameplay of both editions is still fine, and Java is consistently getting more mod-friendly with each release. You also don't actually have to buy anything in Bedrock; it's mostly just annoying.
I don't really agree that Minecraft is getting enshittified, but I can see why others might.
And the whole chat censoring thing, and Microsoft doubling down on banning players on all servers for chat content in their own private servers.
bedrock was shit version from start, any respectable Minecraft player uses Java version.
Holup, they still continuing java version support?
You can avoid the transactions, but they really lure the kids in. I have to constantly tell my kid I'm not paying for that crap it's exhausting
and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
Hey, it's me. I contacted support and got a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it.
Then I said said "fuck this shit" and gave up to never play again.
EDIT: You probably guessed, but I should clarify that it was the same list of info, verbatim, each time. Just copy/paste response without reading that I'd already supplied it.
Windows was enshittified decades before it was even a concept. Grandaddy of enshittification.
gotta maintain that backwards compatible enshitification
when bedrock edition was introduced, I’d say
the marketplace, character creator and partnered servers all have very predatory monetization
thankfully java resisted enshittification for the most part
When they forced you to have a Microsoft account, which inturn made me loose my Minecraft account.
The day Microsoft bought it.
Man I remembered some silly people who said "They aren't going to make us have to use Microsoft accounts to still play!".
Boy, did Microsoft did in fact do that.
Damn, didn't know that. I think I only played locally, but it was years ago. Do you need to sign in to play offline?
Can't speak for OP, but I took a maybe ten-year hiatus from Minecraft and came back to find the were so baby more block types that it clogged my inventory and I felt overwhelmed and just stopped playing again.
Micro$oft made some controversies on Minecraft (Minecraft owned by M$)
NEFTLIX
You missed YouTube
I'm going to pretend using an enshitified version of this meme template was an intentional choice
I would put Firefox on the very last door. Firefox has been a gradual process.
Windows on the first door.
Netflix happened before Reddit. Also, one could add Facebook and Amazon
And google (the search engine)
Tantacrul made an HBomb-length video about Facebook recently. Def worth a watch.
Wait, what happened to Minecraft? You're just talking about the Bedrock edition, right?
...right?
I think it's bedrock edition and the many cash grab spinoffs. Afaik og Minecraft is only better than it ever was.
Yeah that's my experience so far. The only thing Microsoft has managed to ruin so far when it comes to Java edition is the launcher. Luckily there are many great FOSS launchers out there (Prism is my favorite). Everything else is working just fine, and the gameplay updates from the last couple of years have been good.
I just bought a brand new thumb drive so I can install Linux.
Why didn't you just build your own thumb drive out of parts? It just takes a bit of soldering and W steady hand.
I suggest unbuntu or mint for your first. To get acclimated. Arch and others are cool, but they are intense. I run mint and I can play 99 percent of my old games on it through steam.
I went with Mint. Cinnamon edition. Get my feet wet with this. Slip deeper into the pool later maybe.
For those wondering about what specifically happened with each:
Minecraft - microtransactions on Bedrock edition
Reddit - API changes killing 3rd party apps and streamlining ad delivery
Netflix - Pricing and library changes making it less and less of a good deal
Chrome - Manifest V3 killing uBlock Origin and similar content blockers
Windows - Increasing numbers of ads baked into the system, poorly-made features like Recall, and lack of hardware compatibility with the TPM 2.0 requirement
Thanks. I was legitimately confused by Minecraft because I never saw anything negative added to Java edition but I've never played Bedrock. Minecraft keeps pumping out free content updates so they seem like a good example of what to do for a company.
bedrock isn't real
Additional stuff:
Reddit - becoming more and more like a typical social media website with profile customizations and instant messaging.
Netflix - ads and now only limited to one household.
Chrome - might be the bloatiest of all chromium based browsers
Windows was the enshittification of DOS.
Windows was an improvement over DOS. NT was the enshittification of OS/2
Buddy this meme is put in reverse.
Netflix THEN Chrome THEN Windows???
I don't play games often anymore, but what happened to Minecraft, I thought it was a cheap kids game that just grew into a lot of people playing it. Did they somehow put ads or subscriptions to it?
Subs if you want a server or mods of any kind on bedrock edition which is the only cross platform. Java is still good
People mostly mean the Bedrock Edition for its microtransactions and lack of proper mod support. Otherwise, it's the same game and you can ignore that stuff.
Lol, this is hilarious. Thanks, Lemmy. It makes me feel better to know I'm not this far echo chambered. Good luck.
I had the same reaction. Enshittification came for Windows more than a decade ago, WTH are they thinking with this meme?
What? Windows has sucked for like 20 years. Google turned to shit when they got rid of “don’t be evil”
This would be true if it wasn't for the blood trails. All these companies are thriving despite the enshitification; perhaps they're thriving because of it.
I kinda feel like people don't really care, I mean the ones who care are here and they left these products behind, but we're really a small fraction that barely counts, most just use these stuff, they just don't overthink it.
When did this happen to Neftlix?
Cracking down on account sharing was the start, then the massive price increases.
In the last couple of months it has gone from the most reliable one I use to having trouble changing profiles and it hanging while atarting a movie every couple of days. Now they are removing their own interactive content and tried to branch out into gaming, but then fired the whole studio. All of these things are due to trying to chase expansion instead of just being a high quality movie and series streaming service.
Oh, no.
Cancelling any series that doesn't stay on the top10 on the first week was the start. Or was it removing their own old series from the catalog? Well, I can't really tell when it started either.
When they turned their popular base plan of $7 into a Base Plan but with ads. With fucking ads.
Windoze must die! Long live DOS!
~ War cry of the ancient geek
Well, you know, that is an option...
I do, actually!
I love FreeDOS and occasionally use it, and not just for vidya.
TBH move reddit to the front of Netflix and Chrome and Windows behind Minecraft then its good.
LJ, digg, del.ico.us, Plants vs Zombies...
He'll never take Windows. Never!
I mean there are levels and challenges and adds of up to 30 seconds on solitaire, a game that's idea is to play casually in between. And minesweeper isn't pre installed anymore, you have to download it in the shop and I can't do that on my work laptop (and I obviously don't use windows privately)
Windows should be first, Reddit second, Minecraft third, chrome fourth.
Shocked this thread is an hour old with no mention of Linux. Whoopsie.
The Linux is implied.
posted from my linux desktop
Linux isn't enshittified, what do you mean?
I expected someone to be evangelizing for Linux as an alternative to enshittified Windows.