Anti-trans Missouri A.G. can now access trans people’s medical records

But if they're forced to abide by logic and reasoning how are they supposed to oppress women and minorities?

Honestly they have sown the myths of trans healthcare so hard that people legit believe 5 year olds are receiving puberty blockers. The barest of sense is easier to hijack than people can believe. It's why we can't depend on a majority vote for stuff like this. The airbrains are being given butterflies to chase and then telling us we're crazy. They probably have some fictional bogeyman-esque case someone wrote an article about or a interviewee they managed to play out of context nonsense from to cite you.

It must be a new strain of that chemical they put in the water that turns the friggin frogs gay

When people were arguing for this ban in Indiana, people were saying the same stupid shit.

And it turned out that there was no hospital or clinic that performed such surgery on minors in the first place.

They didn't care, they just kept saying it.

How else do you think transgender women have gotten so much hotter in the past decade or so?

(This is a joke btw and I hate that I have to say this)

Why should it matter if the parents give consent if the minor cant consent? A parents could consent to their child getting a face tattoo, but it doesnt mean a kid can consent to that.

Even better - Conservatives: show me your personal medical records, I need to know if you are doing something I want to be illegal.

Also conservatives: what do you mean you want to check my mental health background before I can purchase a gun? Outrageous.

The whole LGBT stuff is such bullshit since it should 100% easily fall under first amendment expression it is retarded that they have not been trounced are every turn.

You can woman fuck them too if you feel up to it.

Not like the Christians care but it also violates the fourth

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The ruling specifically said items that aren't protected under federal mandate. When I deal with HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) information, just about everything you can imagine in the record is protected if it can be paired with another piece of info and narrow down a person's identity. Scroll down to the 'Protected Health Information'

Hopefully that means they can deny just about every document... but I have no hope when it comes to courts and prosecutors in the states.

Go sit in in a personal injury trial and see how worthless HIPPA actually is.

You’re just saying that because a certain government in Germany forcefully obtained a list of people who’d received gender affirming care. I wonder why the names on that list seem to not have been around in the 1950s

More familiar than you think.

https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/

you should already know there are no more sides.

I think that they are trying to use "Medicaid fraud" as a backdoor to access medical records. I mean, the AG is specifically saying otherwise but that's the loophole they will use to get these records.

Anything these fascists don't like while they're running their theocracy.

Reason I moved my family out of that y'all queda nightmare.

*HIPAA

At this point, I think that should be a requirement of every candidate during an election, except they'd all 'accidentally' clear it.

Six months from now: Republican AG subpoenas IKEA for BLÅHAJ purchase records.

sweats nervously

Candy canes, not poles.

He's a creeper.

Another Grindr profile with no picture, and probably just “HMU” in the text portion.

I HAVE A WIDE STANCE

Technically this is a grey area and they are blatantly misusing the exception for court order/warrant rule. HIPAA just states that records must be turned over but doesn't get into details concerning how much or how little should be provided. I really can't believe the judge allowed this but I suspect (hopeful anyway)that this will get kicked up to a federal court since federal law supercedes state laws.

It mostly depends on what he does with the information. Any personally identifiable information that becomes public puts someone at serious risk of being persecuted or physically threatened.

The statement from Planned Parenthood includes:

Despite the Attorney General’s demand that PPSLR turn over all patient medical records related to gender-affirming care, the court ruled that individual patient records remain protected — a major victory for patients' privacy rights.

I suspect this means the AG may receive de-identified records including procedure or diagnosis information, but not including any patient identifying information such as patient or billing account, name, address, social, date of birth, date of service, etc.

It could also include aggregate information about providers and facilities, especially if records are obtained under the guise of a fraud investigation, allowing the AG to target locations and providers where patients frequently obtain specific services. That route might be the most harmful to patients, for ex. if they're unable to continue receiving care because of harassment of the providers.

They are (and have always been) regressives but yeah.

Eh. I'm glad we have conservatives because I see how crazy liberals can be when they get there way with no pushback.

I think if liberals tried less to control people's thoughts, they would be more palatable to independents.

Yeah, I stopped with that line of thought ages ago. Regardless of whether it's true for any percentage of cases, they're still monsters causing massive amounts of damage and trauma to people just trying to exist. They've also shown us time and time again that hypocrisy is no barrier for them.

Conservatives love kids genitals these days

Hi, you can believe what you want to believe, but I wish I pursued care when I was younger (began questioning at the onset of puberty) rather than transitioning at 25.

The most commonly used model is puberty blockers with parental consent up until 16 and then HRT only with parental consent at 16.

Forcing a child to undergo a puberty that they do not want, is cruel!

Children do not choose to transition because they think it's cool to do so. They still get bullied for it. At least set them up to have a more stable adulthood.

Why not?

I kind of appreciate the "I don't need to understand or like you to support" attitude, but repulsion is a strong reaction.

Have you ever reflected upon the why?

Especially if you don't like that reaction in yourself in the first place, as you say, maybe it would be worth working on it?

There absolutely is. Trans care is whatever care Trans people get. Just like women's care is the care women get, children's care is the care children get, along with elder care and care for the disabled. Unqualified "care" is the province only of white, gender conforming, AMAB men, preferably WASPs. You don't hear as much about it now, but "black healthcare" is what gave us the Tuskegee syphilis human experiment.

Anything these bigots and fascists can use to distinguish the kind of care the "other" receives from normal care is a way to demonize the other and justify making their costs higher and their services worse, less, or outright illegal.

So "Trans care" is a unique thing. There is some care that overlaps with the idea of "everyone else care" that is withheld from trans people by specific barriers of perceived sex. Like if a cis man is experiencing routine testicular pain getting them removed is a very different conversation in a doctor's office than a trans person who wants them removed for endocrinology reasons. The surgery is the exact same for both groups however. Mastectomy too tends to be very easy for cis women to get if they have a history of cancer in the family and want to play it safe rather than a trans person who wants their boobs gone because they have been binding them down whenever they can for mental health reasons. Same surgery but the non-trans option gets the fast pass. A lot of places you need the sign off of having years going to a mental health professional who vouches for you before that barrier is removed. Any surgery that has a "gendered" component usually has an extra barrier if you as a sex generally outside of the regular percieved demographic and is elective.

Then there is care that is more specific to trans people (though cis exceptions sometimes apply). Cross sex application of horomones for a feminizing or masculinizing, facial feminizing surgery where the bones of the skull are shaved down, vaginoplasty or phalloplasty (bottom surgery) tend to be mainly the domain of a history of research of medicine application specifically in the interests of trans people. Cis people aren't terribly likely to chase these options.

Then you get issues with cis medical bias. "Trans Broken Arm" syndrome exists where uninformed or bigoted doctors forcefully stop someone's horomonal regime sending them into menopause-like states of distress needlessly for things that a difference between the sexes endocrine systems do not effect. Or, because they are uninformed in the other direction they give bad dosages based on birth sex (trans people using horomones actually react to medications based in their hormonal makeup and fat distribution - not their birth sex characteristics) because of basically ignorance or bigotry where they refuse to treat trans people effectively because of what their beliefs a woman or man is rather than the actual medical best practice.

Lots of extra barriers for trans people tend to exist in seeking all types of medical care. Trans medicine is simultaneously a unique field of scientific study, a practical use of medicine for a specific targeted treatment, a philosophy of bodily autonomy and series of patchwork legal issues that can restrict options that could be applied to anyone by basing it's availability on sex.

Access to hormone replacement therapy or puberty blockers if they've obtained the proper consent from parents or medical professionals (I think there's an AND in there, that they have to get both, varies by state but I'm not positive and haven't looked in years), gender affirming care falls under that too so potentially any consultations in regards to reducing dysphoria.

I had typed out a long response detailing what transgender care is, why it's different from "old care" that "everyone" gets, and why you're uninformed. I even had https://genderdysphoria.fyi/ lined up as a website to help you learn more.

But I have eyes and I am literate. I am able to read how you respond to others.

You're a cunt and you don't deserve the basic respect you deny others constantly. I will not sit here and debate my existence with you and I don't think anyone should take you seriously in any way. If you have such a problem with trans people, consider gouging your eyes out and piercing your eardrums with a pencil yourself so you no longer need to perceive us.