Alex Jones is profiting from his new game on Steam — while refusing to pay the Sandy Hook families he defamed

If you're poor though they just put you in jail while they figure that stuff out. If they figure it out.

Not when one of his victims has terminal cancer and can't cash out because Jones is playing keep away through the courts.

It doesn't matter if I like him or not.

Court has ruled he needs to pay the fine, but instead of paying he is spending more money and doing ridiculous stuff like making this game. He is going against his court order. That shouldn't be allowed. Any less wealthy person would have had their assets seized at this point.

Yes the US has laws, but he is breaking them.

He makes his living by fucking with people he doesn't like and he certainly got off easy compared to the damage he's caused.

k there captain butthurt

Amok*

Found AJs account

War is profitable. So I hear.

Yeah true

Or maybe they don't see it's their place to gatekeep the store based on their own morals. If you start - where do you draw the line? Some examples like such games may be obvious, but there will be a lot more that are less so.

If people disagree with the message - nobody forces them to buy it after all and you can block any game from even showing up for you in the store, in my opinion it's plenty enough from the valve's part. I'd rather be the judge myself as to what I want and what I don't want to see and play, rather than any corporation.

Valve allows basically everything that's not outright illegal

While true, and I agree it's the right thing to do, some things like this and the Rittenhouse game are in a weird murky gray area where one could argue that it's inciting violence etc. And if that someone is a lawyer, they could convince a judge/jury that it is illegal.

I agree that they should allow anything that isn't illegal, but people say this like it's black and white, and legality very much is not black and white.

Unless it pisses off the Chinese government, like the game Devotion that was released from a Taiwanese developer. But I don't think Steam has a high ground so much as it has good PR while not being extremely greedy. In contrast, GOG also removed it, which sort of discredited any high ground they had.

This is too bad, but yes. They are like any other large corporation, I suppose -- motivated primarily by greed.

That's how boycotts have always worked. Boycotts have only been successful when people already didn't like the thing they were boycotting.

Edit: Nvm I understand now!

I'm a policy wonk!

This, Q Anon Anonymous and Behind the Bastards were my favorite podcasts for a while.

Oh, haven't heard of it. I'll check it out. The Some Dare guys are pretty informal and raw, but they seem like guys you'd want to have a pint with if you met them in the UK. One if them is a rapper and the other is a death metal guy but they're both pretty smart.

They talk about that actually. About how they think to get really deep into conspiracy theories it helps to be a creative type because you kind of have to be to get so far up everything's butt and see such tenuous connections everywhere.

Can you link directly to the pizzagate one. I've never heard a good debunk beyond "there is no basement so nothing is true".

I love that podcast. I’ve been listening to one that a trucker recommended to me recently. It’s full of inside jokes so it takes a minute to be all in, but it’s really fun. It’s called Timesuck with Dan Cummins. Not every episode is perfect and it’s a bit long, but I love it.

Did OP say anything about Epstein's crimes? No. He may be referring to the fact that people think that he didn't kill himself (I don't have a specific opinion on the matter.)

Edit: I just looked up the episode's description: "Welcome to part one of episode 7!! The big question we're asking today.. Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself?? Everyone has an opinion on this, what's yours?"

Probably meaning the "Epstein Didn't Kill Himself" theory.

Yes, but did he kill himself? It's an interesting discussion, especially from the point of view of conspiracy theorists who literally think shape-shifting lizards are involved.

That doesnt square with the fact that these guys were hard-core conspiracy theorists? 😂😂

Lots of TERFs and anti-LGBTQ+ knuckledraggers made it a point to “play wizard game to own the libs” after many people decided not to play it on grounds that, regardless of whether or not it directly supported JK Rowling, it certainly indirectly supports her by spotlighting Harry Potter.

Also, as you said, JK Rowling tried to fuck with it because she’s a pissed off TERF, and some people just want to distance themselves from that whole mess.

In other words, Hogwash Legacy became a virtue signal for the fragile snowflakes on the right to stand cucked in solidarity with their astroterf queen.

It’s one of the most progressive minded games I’ve ever played

That is such an incredibly low bar. What passes as progressive values in AAA games is just a shoehorned and saccharine checklist progressiveness. I can almost understand why the chuds get annoyed because playing some games can be like bad corporate DEI training.

Right wing ideology meanwhile is baked into gameplay. It doesn't matter much if the themes are anti-racist so long as every problem can be solved with the right gun. It doesn't matter if you're a socialist state in a strategy game who's economy is straight out of the Chicago school.

A couple games get it right. "This War of Mine" shows you what's happening in the out of bounds areas of Call of Duty. "Darkest Dungeon" is a microscope on the exploitation of capitalism. But good luck finding something like this in the AAA space.

True... But if you buy and return it you can give it a negative review?

I live in the middle of nowhere and rely on amazon sadly just not possible for me

I'm pretty sure steam has like a 3 month lag time to pay out anyway.

Doesn't make sense. You give them money. Enjoy (only some do enjoy) the game. Get money back. Net sum is positive if the game was fun for you.

I think reviews from users who refunded aren't counted in the overall score.

You can do anything if you believe in yourself.

Which makes them responsible for enforcing that he pays to the families?

I flagged it as Child Exploitation for the simple fact one of the screenshots says Epstein Island...

Jesus you and everyone who commented on this comment is dumb fuck

You said, in your comment to my comment...

Look: you're putting so many words in my mouth, it's probably not worth replying, so...

:(

Depends on what they're talking about.

e.g. "Let's plan a murder" vs. "Let's plan dinner"

Do you like Alex Jones?

(Most sane supporter of him)

He is one of the key figures leading a mob that has made the lives of parents a living hell.

Surely that could be interpreted as being in contempt of court. Just lock his ass up and throw away the key.

Yeah, that makes sense. Thx

They just hate our freedoms cause they anus

I think Regnery Press does that last bit all the time...I don't know if people that maintain such lists take that kind of thing into account or not. And yeah, I have no trouble believing that Lil Alex found some demon willing to help him game the Steam system.

Don't under estimate how many conspiracy theorists and conservatives are on Steam. A good portion of my friends list is fractured after 2016 and 2020

This was on a car; I won't mess with someone's car. But in any case, I don't think free speech applies to whipping up a mob to harass grieving parents. Some of these people had to move multiple times and the stochastic terrorism still went on. For over a decade. He's screaming fire in a crowded theater, or worse. He can f right off with that kind of "free speech".

Back in the 90s, I found Alex to be a rather humorous curiosity in the same realm as high weirdness in other areas like the Discordians or Church of the Subgenius only without the humor; these days I find him and his followers to be a threat to society. I think 9/11 and then, later, the likes of donnie really, really put him into a dark place. That, and the pursuit of filthy lucre.

Fuck Alex Jones

Agreed. After his Bohemian Grove success he was only in it for the money.

and all the conspiracist bullshit he stands for

Hang on. Are you saying the public should unquestionably believe everything the government and corporations tell us?

Have an actually functioning legal and economic system so people like this can't be created nor have this sort of power in the first place? When you have criminals running businesses making bank, multi-millionaires even, while not giving his victims the compensation that they're supposed to be getting, you've fucked up. Seize his assets and distribute them to the people who he defamed, take all of his earnings except for the bare minimum he needs to survive until this debt is paid off (which it won't be since it's far more than he could ever pay anyways). That's what he should expect if he disobeys legal orders and refuses to do the bare minimum in paying victims out.

America removed the fairness doctrine under Reagan - that action is a direct line to allowing for an Alex Jones. "America" had somewhat functioning structures to prevent unchecked, rampant disinformation on the airwaves, Reagan removed it.

On the brighter side, every time I mention the fairness doctrine I get a brief reminder that Reagan and rush Limbaugh are now both bloated, rotting corpses. The more time passes, history will only remember them as the monsters they were. Their propagandists die off more by the day and eventually only the facts of the damage they did to society will remain

As in the US justice system? Actually follow his money trail and stop it where ever he hides it until he has payed back every cent of the bill he owns.

Let's hope it stays that way.

Millenials and younger are all kids.

Nevermind that a not-insignificant portion are entering middle-age.

Anybody younger than me is a kid. One of the few remaining things I have to look forward to in life is calling the new residents of the retirement home 'kiddos' and 'youngsters'.