Or are they?
Or are they?
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I hate this stereotype; it blames bigotry against homosexuals on homosexuals.
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So its not entirely just a stereotype. They have done studies on it, and it holds remarkably true. I'll see if I can find one of them for you.
Edited to add a link to the study: Homophobia study
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Nah, openly gay homosexuals aren't bigoted, it's only the ones in denial.
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It's not blaming homosexuals in general; it's blaming specifically those homosexuals who help uphold systems of oppression. It's the same as women who uphold sexism or pickme minorities. They're using the oppression of others as a shield against their own oppression instead of joining the fight for equality.
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Suggesting all homophobes are gay is a great way for the straight community to avoid taking responsibility for their role in perpetrating homophobia. Most homophobes are straight haters.
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Secretly gay/bisexual. Closeted. Self-hating, spreading their hate. Trying to cling onto a precarious hold on the straight lifestyle, they want to eliminate "temptation". Dudes, it's only tempting if you're already bi.
At least on the right it seems that way, with the Republican convention regularly crashing grindr.
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It's also a way to tell gay people "really, this is your fault"
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No "normal" person (like me!) would be homophobic, if they are homophobic they're probably "abnormal" (just like you!!!)
(sarcasm disclaimer: this is meant to be interpreted sarcastically)
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I've said before that the projection arguement is just used too often. Yes some of them are probably in denial about their own preferences but I would say that the vast majority are just awful people.
I think transphobics tend to have a greater chance of being trans than homophobics have been gay, possibly because homophobia is looked down on by society, (at least in the West) in a way that maybe transphobia isn't quite as much. There are countries that have legalised gay marriage, but not hormone therapy, which is just bizarre.
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I think that homophobes are jealous of gays. Jealous and envious to the point of hate. I think that homophobes span the entire human range of desires but at some point the thing that they desire the most was denied to them because it is "evil". And they just can't fucking handle the idea of gay/trans/ect out there just doing what they desire and not being punished for it. I think for many of them, homosexual and bisexual desires are definitely the issue, but there's plenty of straight homophobes with desires that they have been told is evil. And then there's the plenty who actually want truly evil shit.
But you are correct, it's not just closeted gays hating on themselves, it just happens that those seem to be the ones that seem to be the most vocal and visible. -
Definitely true, but when it comes to the most extreme homophobes, there's no hatred like self-hatred.
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they dint say All homophobes are gay, its just alot of them. the most outspoken ones tend to be the ones in the closet, or the ones that act very strangely around the notion of being gay. for the latter, i saw a video of a bodybuilder who was Hiding his face with a surgical mask(way before pandemic), everyone commented how he afraid of being gay, eventhough he showing off his body.(which is wierd in itself, because asians are pretty conservative as well)
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the most outspoken ones tend to be the ones in the closet
Just out of interest where are you getting that information from? Of all the really outspoken ones, the ones with online followings and the ones that are always turning up at rallies, I can't think of any that have ever actually come out as gay. So how do we know if they've been in denial or not?
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As a child, I was terribly afraid of spiders. Until I did a science project on them and discovered I was an arachnophile after all and I’ve never looked back.
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I'm an arachnophobe when I just walked through her web and don't know where the fuck she is. From a distance, though, I'm all 'Wow, what a wonderful creature!'
The spider spinning a web in front of my door is an asshole. The one eating things inside my house is a bro. The one guarding my rose bush is beautiful.
If you're spider-curious, take a look at Travis McEnery. If you think your an arachnophobe, check him out too; exposure therapy worked for Chill and youtube is a safe distance from the spiders.
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Most spiders are indeed afraid of other spiders, checkmate theists.
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rightfully so
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"Most" is what scares me here.
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Almost like the first one isn't true either.
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This study kind of illustrates it may be true. It's not a huge sample size, but its difficult to deny there is at least a significant correlation.
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I only need to open Grindr at a Republican convention to know for sure. Also, good luck with the servers not crashing.
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That's not what the study says??
I don't have access to the full text, but it certainly doesn't state most homophobes display attraction to gay porn.
It says there is a correlation. If 5% of the population is gay and 10% of homophobes are gay, then homophobia is correlated with being gay.
But stating most homophobes are gay would require evidence that >50% are gay, not just that there exists a correlation.
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As noted, its a small sample size, and even in that sample size the homophobic participants exhibited "arousal" to all sexual stimuli.
I don't think that makes someone gay.
You also have to consider the subset of self described homophobes who would consent to having a device strapped to their genitalia while they are shown gay porn...
They may not be a representative of the larger group.
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Because most homophobes aren't afraid of gay people. They hate them. It's a very non descriptive labels fan is technically incorrect in most cases, though it DOES work as an insult to homophobes by making them seem like an absolute fucking wuss so I'm not in arms about that. In fact, I support it despite this fact. Fuck you, homophobes, you fucking dicks.
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What a homophobe is afraid of is gay men treating them the way they treat women.
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kinda wierd mental gymnastics on these people. but i think its more likely closeted gay homophobes, dont wanted to be OUTED being gay themselves, because they have ties to conservative/religious groups,families they dont want to be cut off from. people who often come out as gay when they are young in a coservative/religious community will often be disowned immediately by the family and the community. mOST dont consider people like thiel(probably bad example) to be openly gay, eventhough he knows hes gay, he does everything in his power to suppress any news about him in the media all the time.(its an ulterior motive of trying to gain favors with the conservative base/ GOP so they dont intefere with his companies, business pratices like Palintir. gawker/hulk lawsuit being one of them(the motivation behind him doing it is his business pratices). not to mention last year, he had Boy toy "defenestrated" in florida, and it was like on reddit for like half a day, before it was buried.
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Consider a usage other than "fear". Think of something hydrophobic. Do you really think that an inanimate surface is afraid of water?
I don't think it's technically incorrect, I think folks have been taught an overly narrow usage of the suffix.
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Have you seen what waterfalls do to rock? You should be afraid of water!
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"Aversion" is the most accurate meaning I can think of. It could be aversion out of hate, fear, or something else.
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Fair point. I personally like that it's insulting though so I like the wide definition more.
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The fact that someone decided to describe an inanimate object as scared of water doesn't invalidate words with 'phobic'
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I've been married to an arachnophobe for 42 years and now I have questions.
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Look for telltale signs in your marriage like:
- does it spin a web
- does it love you
- does it walk on the ceiling
If any of these are true you might be married to a human.
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Do people ever run screaming from the room when he enters it?
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Apparently, half of homophobes are gay. The other half have actual phobias about gay people.
So watch out, homophobes. Half of your friends secretly want to suck your dick.
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Lost in Space?
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The 1995 movie, yes.
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Ok, but ewww, imagine the other way around - seeing a spider doing normal spider-bro things, but it's turns out it's a human?
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This guy?
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No, this dude gets a pass.
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"I think homophobes are just secretly scared that cocks are delicious."
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Most homophones are secretly homographs
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Sounds like a secret spider curve ball to me
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Lieutenant barkly was secretely a spider.
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Because apparently he had spiders in his ancestry. Most other people don't have spiders in their ancestry which is why he was so weird.
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As Spiderman I can confirm this
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Wait? Does this mean archnophobes want to fuck spiders?
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FDR has entered the chat.
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Hiss
Arachnophobia is so stupid. Just let the spiders get married