Is anybody else more active here then they were on Reddit?
Is anybody else more active here then they were on Reddit?
When I was on Reddit I felt like my opinion didn’t matter. But here it just feels more open and free.
Is anybody else more active here then they were on Reddit?
When I was on Reddit I felt like my opinion didn’t matter. But here it just feels more open and free.
Every comment I would make on Reddit seemed to get challenged by someone looking to start a long-winded argument as they were, in fact, the main character of the universe.
I like it here because so far, people are nice. It’s like the first day of high school and everyone just wants to be friends and meet people.
No karma competition here. It has a bigger effect on behaviour than you'd think.
It’s like a little trophy or a symbol of validity to some people. You’d see big edits addressing downvoted as if people got personally hit in the head with them.
I don’t blame people though because viscerally, these things are little tokens of “approval” by others at large.
I feel like your characterization of Reddit users as long-winded and contrarian is inaccurate and frankly offensive. Let me write you several paragraphs about why you’re wrong, sprinkled with thinly veiled personal insults and outright harsh commentary about you as a person.
Sorry, just trying to make it feel like our old home :)
Lmao this was good. You forgot to comb through my post history to see if you can make your comment even more hard-hitting by referencing a personal problem I have that was highlighted in a post or comment from 6 months ago 🤪
I completely agree with you. Now defend your point, which I've definitely attacked by replying. 🤺
You had me in the first half sentence.
As the antagonist of this thread, I would have to disagree with this statement. I was, initially, very dismayed to see that no one had taken issue with this comment. Alas, here I am, to set things right. Being that most online communities seem to revolve around my person, I thought that I’d share these thoughts that so many of you had been patiently awaiting.
No but fr, huge fan of these communities. The voices that search out an argument don’t seem to gain quite as much traction on fedi (yet, at least). Probably due to them having a larger overall audience on reddit to feel validated by. Hopefully it stays that way!
As the antagonist of this thread, I would have to disagree with this statement. I was, initially, very dismayed to see that no one had taken issue with this comment. Alas, here I am, to set things right. Being that most online communities seem to revolve around my person, I thought that I’d share these thoughts that so many of you had been patiently awaiting.
This killed me 🤣
Another big difference is the lack of vote fuzzing. It's more obvious when people are abusing the upvote/downvote function, and it feels more meaningful when you know each vote directly represents a real person.
On kbin you can even see publicly which user made each vote, but idk if that functionality is planned or possible on Lemmy. It's quite useful for combating brigading.
had me in the first half
I like I can say the words Tiannamen and Square and not feel like bots are out to get me 🙂
The misinfo on Reddit is wild. Just shows people don’t understand federation and how the views of one instances’ moderators doesn’t impact what people can say or do on other instances.
I like you!
Yay!
And I like you too.
That literally couldn't be further from the truth /s
Reddit comment: “Well actually…” straightens fedora
I‘m way more active here. I want that place to survive and become the new home for former redditors.
Same here, forced me out of my lurker shell. 😅
Alright! How was your day? What did you do?
Yes. It’s far less hostile here and I don’t fear getting downvoted to hell for asking a question.
Excellent point and I totally agree.
Or, to translate your comment to Redditese: "This." ;)
Mostly lurked on Reddit, trying to comment here and there on lemmy.
Yeah and lemmy still shows upvotes even if you get downvoted. Also it doesn’t automatically hide your comment if you get negative votes which I find annoying on Reddit
Deleted My reddit account , tried all of the fediverse before but always went back to propriety for same reason as anyone else. Everyone is there. With the Reddit exodus I feel this will get the push it needs
I'm more active here. You can actually post comments without idiots being toxic about it for no reason. You can actually make posts without them getting removed for no reason. It's great.
When I joined Lemmy I decided I wanted to engange with the community here on Lemmy, since I on Reddit I just lurked, so I'm much more active here.
It feels like you can join in later. There are not thousands of replies in the first few hours. So commenting or participating was a waste of time before in many bigger subs. Noone would ever see your answer anyway or interact with you, so there was really no point.
Here it feels like you are actually participating in some way. I really like it.
That’s true - Lemmy displays new comments above “top” comments, allowing them to be seen by everyone.
You can change the sorting, I actually have this post sorted by "top" right now.
Yeah, the default sorting behavior contributes quite a bit.
Posting on reddit felt kinda like lurking most of the time. Here it's indeed different, as people tend to answer questions etc. that are made in comments.
I'm not only commenting more (because I'm not afraid people will bite my head off for everything I say) I'm also reading a lot more comments in general. I think it's for the same reason, the comment threads seem to involve actual constructive discourse. It's funny that I read fewer posts here than I did at Reddit but I spend a lot more time per post.
because I’m not afraid people will bite my head off for everything I say
How dare you! This is an atrocious thing to say and you should feel bad /s
Yeah, this place sort of just has a better spirit right now. I hope it's able to hold onto this vibe as it grows.
Oh, don't worry. There's still plenty of people who will bite your head off or call you a "concern troll" for genuine opinions that go against the hive mind. Things are just slower.
Reddit comments just get washed away by millions of other users. Where as in this place it's not as competitive so yea I understand what you mean.
Yeah, I think this is a big part of it. There's no point posting something in the big Reddit subs most of the time because someone else will have already posted the same thing.
To get noticed you have to be early and/or say something witty or superficially inciteful. There's no room for nuance.
It just becomes a competition for karma, and if you don't play you're screaming into the void.
I feel the lack of (public?) karma will at least help with the repost bots here. That is, if you buy the "bots needing karma to look legit" or the "needs to gather karma to post in some subs" arguments. I've always found those to be very weird as no sub I've seen needs several thousand karma to post and most bots still look like bots.
Competition for karma sounds like more of the same problem with bots: lots of low effort posts to rise those numbers
I posted a showerthought mostly to try how posting works. It seemed to be at the top of... is there a /r/all equivalent here?
Anyway, it was visible enough my sister found my account. It kinda feels like moving from a giant metropolis to a village.
I am because I feel it's great to be a part of the growing numbers of the platform. Everything is a bit rough around the edges and it gives it a 'far west' feel
This instance is not big enough for the two of us.
I made two post on Reddit in like 2008 or something. One day I’ll have made ten posts here.
You're off to a good start.
Thank you. Nine eleven was an inside job!
Reddit comment threads are currently just full of groupmind wankery. I like being on a platform where I don't 100% agree with everyone and I don't have to hold "sanctioned" opinions that are approved by a mod team of 3.
Reddit was so American too, all the arguments and things seemed to be through their world view. The fediverse should allow much more diversity, and be a bit more multicultural
Americans are the largest English speaking group, as long as we're in the English part of Lemmy, Americans will still be the largest group.
Reddit unironically gives me 1984 as it’s about to get worse from here on out.
Definitely.
For example, I've just written and posted a comment in this very thread. That's more than I'd ever do in a thread like this on Reddit.
Same!
There are several of us!
Still trying to “find my place” here but I am enjoying the whole thing. Lots of awesome discussions popping up and great conversation here.
Gonna have to buck the trend and say, no.
I had good experiences on Reddit, I was active in a few different communities and had good engagement without the 'avalanche of toxic responses' some people here are describing.
I'm leaving Reddit due to the changes at the top, not because of problems at the grass roots.
Same here. Of course there was always the occasional troll looking for a fight, but mostly acceptable to pleasant interactions.
The grass roots are also wilted, though. All communites decline, unless painstakingly maintained. Not many want to keep doing that on a proprietary, hostile platform. So the overall degeneration is obvious.
Lemmy still feels really easygoing, kind of feels like Reddit in 2011.
I'm trying to be! I'm definitely voting more.
I want to comment more but I often don't have much to say. I've made it a goal to comment more though, because I want to see this platform succeed.
I love the enthusiasm in this thread but if we the mass migration of reddit users that I am hoping for, the toxicity and annoying reddit behaviors are probably coming along with them. I am hopeful that this place will at least stay much more open and free.
Toxicity is good it encourages people to argue which is more content for Lemmy. I've only recently joined but I want to make an active attempt to be toxic and spark engagement.
Stupidest shit I've ever heard. The goal should be to create a more positive environment that encourages real discussion instead of the toxic dumpster fire that reddit has become. Just engage positively instead. If you have something interesting to say people will respond and that will provide content for Lemmy.
Yea. Literally every reddit comment I posted resulted in someone replying to me in a toxic way.
I've only blocked one person on lemmy and that's because they were replying to me in a toxic manner. That's the first reply I've had that's toxic, and I nipped it in the bud. I don't care to have fighting matches back and forth.
Have you noticed if you go to Reddit and click on any thread, usually within the first comment thread, someone will be hating on another person? Fuck that.
I'd honestly suggest everyone block anyone who is being toxic. Not to mention, others don't want to see your drama while looking through comments.
Furthermore, it's great that you can block someone without reporting them here. You can just kinda look at a comment history and be like “None of this is rule breaking, but you're just a jerkass, and I do not care to associate with you.” Further, you can block communities without that being a damnation of that community. Don't know German? Just block the German communities and they won't show in your feed. It's not because they're bad subs, and you want them to go away. You just don't care about them
There's a setting that let's you see English only without having to block i think. I know if you post in English and select "post language" as English only those who set English see and German set language will not. :)
I also hate how every post you make you would instantly have an automod comment saying the rules.
That could still come to Lemmy, if posts start being seen by hundreds of thousands of people, particularly if they come from instances which don't share the same netiquette as the one the post is made on. Of course there's defederation to fight that, but I feel like it can only go so far.
I used to be pretty active on Reddit and I kinda became more and more "sour" and unfriendly over there, because the whole community just dragged me down for some reason.
Here, it's like a breath of fresh air and most people are actually quite nice. Topics have finally become more interesting and there's no such thing as an echochamber. Critical thinking seems to be possible here, as well.
So yes, I became way more active again since I'm on Lemmy. Also, I host my own instance and I put a lot of effort into it, so I want it to be in good standing with other instances. Participating in friendly conversations will help with that.
Yes. Got to the point on reddit where I almost never commented because of the ackshually types.
Agree. Also i submit a lot more from my feeds. Stopped doing that on reddit because Mods would just constantly remove things for inane rules. Like "no Apple articles unless its sunday" type stuff..
Still going to stick to tech and space feeds and steer clear of op-eds and anything that could be perceived as political.
Oh man, so many arbitrary Byzantine rules on subs like that. "The word count of replies must be a prime number."
I never posted or commented on Reddit. Trying to get in the habit here. This community seems like a better one to be involved in.
Same here
I am definitely more active on here than Reddit. I’ve had the same experience as you but I’m tired of gawking at those know it all cockbags. They’ll be here at some point but yeah, it’s a nice community here.
Here people actually react to what I post and write. And they react to the best possible interpretation of what I wrote, not the worst. And even if we disagree, we can still have a nice conversation.
Does anyone have a good theory about why the threadiverse is so much friendlier? Is it only because it's smaller? Is it because of the kind of people a new platform like this attracts? Because there is no karma? Maybe something else?
My theory is that it's a combination of a few factors:
If we can keep maybe 1/4 of that as the platform grows and changes, I'd take that as a win.
I find myself commenting much more here than I did on reddit. I think that is because I want this to be successful and I want to be able to he done with reddit.
The future is what we make it!
ditto
I was a straight up lurker on reddit, I feel like this environment makes me wanna be more active, reminds me of the old days before websites were a cash grab and there was true communities
Current Lemmy feels a lot more like early reddit. At the same time I don't think it has hit its Eternal September moment. The site is still primarily the domain of early adopters and people who care about the community.
I'm definitely trying to be, which isn't difficult considering that my last comment there was a year ago, and I only made 5 comments that year.
I'd been on reddit for 11 years, and I was more active back then, but I sort of started to just lurk more as time went by, probably because there was an ocean of comments in every post
I need some more time, I am pretty shy both irl and online and I kinda liked hiding behind tens of other users. But maybe I will grow to like this
I'm not as active as I was on Reddit, but to be honest, I like it. I went from spending 5/6 hours scrolling on Reddit, to 1 hour a day on Lemmy.
Really? 5-6 hours? That's a hefty lot, dude!
Agreed, the work I do allows me to just have a tab open and browse it in between, so yeah, been wasting quite some time a day on there.
I feel like I can contribute more since the communities are smaller, but I haven't had much of value to say. Haven't really found my niche yet like I had on Reddit.
After the reddit apolcalypse and blackouts. I became less active over there. I still check some subreddits from time to time. But, my activity is low. I only have time to be active in one social network at a time. I chose lemmy.
Been trying to go out of my way to be more active on here. Help the platform grow ya know?
I usually lurk for months at a time then comment once or twice a year on any forum.
I'm certainly not as depressed after scrolling here as opposed to redditt. The magic pixie wranglers at Lemmy don't seem to be as centered on eyeballs on the screen sucking your soul while you're doom scrolling. I'll take it as a win.
Reddit's winning formula: repost, repost, Trump, repost, fight video, repost, repost, social media drama
I've noticed lately that it's just trying to raise the temperature in the room. It has become facebook
Yeah that's true. I get that US politics can be entertaining and lead to funny tweets, but the content inevitably makes you feel worse than before. It's all so gloomy and brings out the worst in people. Doesn't help that seemingly everyone is somewhat of a lunatic.
I also don't get the fight posts. Sure you can block them for yourself, but just having them constantly on r/all for the entire platform to see can't be good for the general climate.
Uplifting News is also often more fit for the Boring Dystopia subreddit, which I quit after a few weeks because the constant stream of negativity was slowly affecting my views and just worsened the experience for me.
All these types of content exist because they showcase a part of life, but the intensity and frequency are significantly elevated above the everyday norm. I wouldn't want that content to be restricted, but I also think platforms need to make sure they create mostly positive places of community. I feel much more inclined to contribute if the overall feeling of the communities is inviting and open-minded, not overly cynical or divided.
Emotional and negative content simply gets tons of views and engagement and it's therefore often in the best interest of platforms to push it to the top for everyone to interact with.
My silent hope is that that might be different for lemmy and that we can keep a more positive attitude among each other because of it.
I was a lurker on Reddit. I had less than 500 Karma when I deleted my 12-year-old account a couple weeks ago.
I've already been more active on Lemmy than I was my entire time on Reddit. Everything here just feels more genuine.
Yes! English is not my first language, so commenting on Reddit made me nervous. I find Lemmy to be more forgiving (if that makes sense?) as well.
I wouldn't say I'm more active in terms of posting and commenting, though I wasn't too active on Reddit the last few years to begin with. Though the fact I haven't logged into my Reddit account of 10 years since checking out Lemmy speaks to how at-home I feel here, even after basically giving up one of the sites I used the most in the past decade or so.
I've been spending more time here. Could be the newness factor or maybe it's just more engaging. It's going to be a lot different only because of the smaller population. I think Reddit may have been too big for its own good.
I surprise myself that I'm more active on lemmy than on reddit.
The users aren't as toxic, so it's much more fun to participate.
Oh, absolutely! I did a lot of consuming on Reddit, and only participated in a couple specific communities.
Here, I feel far more inclined to actively participate.
This is me.
Definitely part of it is wanting to see Lemmy succeed, but it's also just kind of fun being involved in such a rapidly growing social media platform
I was a 10 year lurker on reddit. Now I have my own Lemmy instance
I think so. I feel the camaraderie is much higher here as well, since we’re all refugees together in a sense, but also part of a great new thing.
It's a numbers thing and it's why empathy tends to diminish as population swells.
Here it feels like community, like one's opinion is appreciated. Reddit became a place to hope you get acknowledged at all, where swaths of the community came solely waiting to shout others down and win a fight.
Unfortunately, for all of Reddit's faults, that wasn't a reddit thing, that was just a glaring, crippling defect inherent to humanity. As numbers increase here, that old familiar reddit apathy and antagonism will return. Just play the game of what would you be willing to do, not just rhetoric, for a random person in your circle of friends vs someone from your town/city vs the world. Psychologists call it psychic numbing.
I check Lemmy multiple times per day now!
Might be a case of "grass is always greener." I feel like more eyes and engagement happens for my posts and comments on Reddit. Over here it feels empty yet full, which is weird.
Really? For me it's the opposite effect. You usually don't get crazy amounts of engagement like on reddit where a post can have hundreds of upvotes and comments but on average, I feel like I'm getting more engagement and more valuable engagement.
I think this might be due to the algorithms for sorting comments since there always seems to be too many meaningful comments but low upvotes to signal quality to others. More specifically I think it's harder to go viral here.
I am, absolutely, less intimidating. Remember there are literally dozens of us.
I used to use Reddit through throwaway accounts. Was never a regular user, and moved away from it over a year ago now. Just stopped posting to socials a lot.
Mental health has gotten better, and I've been more active here than I ever was on Reddit because I just enjoy the vibes the place gives me overall.
100%. I've always been a lurker but on lemmy, and I don't know why, but I feel more comfortable interacting and making comments. Haven't made a post yet. Maybe one day
The issue with reddit is that it turns everyone into know it all assholes. The discussion is absolutely horrendous over there. Here it's so much better and more sensible.
Make no mistake, it will also happen here over time. Unless admins and mods work hard to prevent it. Some instances will do better than others.
Same thing here, half my comments on Reddit attracted shallow arguments, the other half hour ignored. Less than 1% lead to real discussion.
Here, half my comments get ignored, the other half lead to real discussion, i like it!
Yeah I'm easy more active here that on Reddit, though I was very active when Reddit was younger. It just got too big and lost that feeling of taking to actual people and contributing to the overall experience.
Yeah, it's fun being part of a smaller community.
I'm generally less active here right now, but I feel like I'm more free to speak my opinion, overall the community here just feels friendlier