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1y ago

Freedom units 💯

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If those Americans could read they'd be very upset.
- I'd take offense if I could; but you're right... I think... idk, I can't think. I'm not upset, you're upset!
  What's an up set?
  
  Nothing, what's an up set with you?
  
  This line could've come out of Gob's mouth

I just use
30°C is hot, 20°C is nice 10°C is cold, 0°C is ice.
Obviously that won't apply everywhere, but in milder climates it works pretty good.
- And 40°C is the melting point of the human brain.
  Which goes some way towards explaining some of the decisions happening in Florida, Texas and Arizona during their ridiculously hot summers..
  
  I understand and appreciate your joke, but is it really? And I imagine that the bones and skin would melt first, right? Idk. I've never considered that someone could melt from the inside.
- and 30C° is a typo
- 40 is dying 50 is dead
  
  I guess, I am dying.
  
  I've been dead a few times this summer.
  
  What would you then call sauna temperatures which range between 80 to 120?
- It's the best way to think about it because if you're always doing the calculation in your head you still always think in Fahrenheit first. Just get the feeling for Celcius instead of trying to shoehorn a worse system in (as a user of said worse system myself).
- All those are still shorts weather.
- And it's always helpful to remember that 40 below is 40 below, in both F and C.
  (Whew, ninja edit so I don't look like an idiot, on Reddit I'd already have six people correcting me)
- More like 30° I'm melted into the pavement, 20° warm but good, 10° is near perfect, 0° starts getting cols, -10° put on a jacket, -20° and below put on a good jacket.
  
  That doesn't rhyme for shit, man. Ha :)
  I'm going to try and add some flair to your post
- 100°C is steam
  
  Your reply didn't rhyme, try again next time. 😆
- Spot on
- "30°C is hot" - laughs in Texan
  
  Texas is Hell though. Anyone who's been there understands this. From the heat to the guns to the people, it's far and away the least desirable or interesting place I've been to. Austin wasn't terrible though.
  
  Don't Texans just stay in air-conditioned buildings and vehicles all the time? I just saw a YouTube video where a guy in Texas was complaining that his air conditioning setup wouldn't get the temperature below 76°F, which I found odd since I set the thermostat on my AC to 26°C (which is nearly 79°F.)
- What's -10°C then?
  
  It doesn't fit into the rhyme, but -10°C is the point where just wearing a coat isn't enough. You need to either start limiting the time you spend outside or put some serious thought into the protective clothing you wear beyond just throwing a coat on as you go out the door.
  
  Colder, like the shoulder I'm giving you. 😆

For the other Americans that came into the thread hoping to see a conversion:
10c = 50f
30c = 86f
Edit: I'd like to note that 10c is a very reasonable temperature for shorts. I'm a Minnesotan (basically Canada lite (please annex us)), people start raising eyebrows at around 0C
- F = C * 1.8 + 32
  Just want to leave this here
  
  Oh come on. Now you expect us to learn math too??
  
  And if you want to do the math fast and just get close enough, you can just do “double it and add 30”.
- its true, legs are immune to cold. shorts and a jacket is a reasonable outfit
- 0C? Fellow Minnesotan here and I've definitely seen plent of people wearing shorts at temps below -5C. But I'm also in a college town so that may change things.
  
  I once amusedly watched girls sunbathe in bikinis at St. Lawrence University with patches of snow nearby in, I think March.
  Conversely, I personally wore shorts and a tee one fine vacation in Florida around Christmas. It was 60f, and everybody was running around in jackets looking like they were in Chicago in January.
  
  Lmao, that brings back memories of going to open gym in high school while wearing basketball shorts in -40 with my winter jacket on
- I learned during the polar vortices that when it's -40 out it's the same in both Celsius and Fahrenheit
- The quick conversation I use is take off 30 and half the rest to go F to C or double it and add 30 to go C to F.
  20C doubled is 40 and add 30. 70F
  80F take off 30 is 50. Half that is 25. 25C
  It's not completely accurate but close enough for conversation purposes.
- Yeh 0C was exactly what I thought and then you mentioned it.

Paraphrasing an old meme:
Fahrenheit - how hot humans feel
Celsius - how hot water feels
Kelvin - how hot atoms feel
- What about Rankine?
  
  Pretentious freedom-loving atoms
- How measuring devices see it:
  | Celsius | How hot humans feel | | Fahrenheit | Measure Celsius and do a calculation | | Kelvin | Measure Celsius and do a calculation |
  Clearly, Celsius is superior here

C° or °C bud?

Jokes on you. I'm an american who works with scientific equipment so I mainly work in Celsius. Also live in Minnesota so we get the best of both worlds. Last winter hit almost -30C at times meanwhile tomorrow has a high of 39C with almost 70% humidity.
- I was going to make the joke that Minnesotan kids definitely know what -40°C is.
  I moved up here from Florida to get out of this kind of heat and humidity. Thanks Minnesota. This is miserable.
- Minnesota is just lower Manitoba, you get the same insane 80c temperature variance
  
  Lower Manitoba 😂 so that makes Saskatchewan into Northest Dakota and the Okanagan is Upper California?
- I love the annual tradition of people posting youtube videos in which someone throws a bucket of water and it instantly turns to snow.
- It's going to hit 39 tomorrow? Gotdamn my wallet isn't going to like the upcoming electric bill
  
  Yup. At least in my area. It's not going to be pretty. Hell I'm outside right now and it's over 30C at nearly midnight. I walked out the door and felt like I stepped into a sauna.

Americans know about °C, but what the hell is C°?
- It's °C, but the temperature increases exponentially with every higher number
  
  Oh shit.

Most kids don't get degrees.
- Heyooo!

I prefer free health care units

I certainly know what degrees Celsius are, but I have no idea what Celsius degrees are supposed to be.
- I thought that was the point Americans allegedly wouldn't understand. Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed the error in a meme trying to make another culture looks like idiots.
- Annotation? Idk, I can't read as is

Why does the US live rent free in so many European's heads all the time?
- Because each time we look for some English content, they use some dumb fantasy metrics based on the size fo the feet of a king for some reason, and we need to look up a converter to change it to a metric used in 195 different countries.
  
  You mean x football fields.
  Coincidentally both “football fields” are pretty close in length.
  
  1 yard is about a meter. 3 feet in a yard. Just divide by 3 and that's good enough for 99% of cases.
  
  I measure in freedom units brother!
  Also how did feet/metric get brought up, that's not even remotely relevant, tf lol.
  
  It's really not hard to convert.
  
  If you grow up in the US, you learn both systems and you're able to convert between them. It's easy.
  2.2 pounds to the kg
  1 inch is 25.4 mm
  A gallon is 3.8 liters
  But it's fun watching supposedly intelligent people from other countries who reeeeeee when seeing imperial units.
- I didn't know Canada and Australia were in Europe
  
  That's American geography
  
  They aren't, which makes this meme even funnier because in my experience Canadians and Aussies are pretty likely to understand both systems and wouldn't have a problem identifying either.
  I'd put money on this having been made by a European.
- I love that the meme is about Canada, Australia, and the US(ish), yet it's the Europeans that get called out by this guy. Who's living rent free in whose head? ;)
  
  Am I wrong lol
- I'd assume because the internet is 90% catered to american's.

Fuck it, it's 8 o'clock and 28°C with 60% already. We are not used to this shit here.
https://www.meteoblue.com/en/blog/article/show/40238_Heat+wave+in+Europe
- The trick is to move up north
  
  What when there is no north anymore?!
  
  The global north is heading up significantly faster tho
- Try 38° at 9am. I reckon, i live in the Sahara desert but australia is just a huge desert too.

Here's a rough C° primer for Americans
0° or below, fucking cold
1° - 10° cold
11° - 20° cool
21° - 30° warm
31° - 40° hot
41° or above - Jesus Christ I'm on fire!
As for Fahrenheit for the rest of the world, on a scale from 0 to 100, how hot is it? Assume anything below zero is really fucking cold, and anything above 100 is really fucking hot.
- -10° - -1° very cold
  0° Water freezes
  1° - 5° Cold
  6° - 10° cool
  11° - 16° warm
  17° - 25° hot
  26° - 30 very hot
  
  Found the Canadian
  
  26 very hot? It was 25 the other day in winter here. (Melbourne)
- Yup. Where I live we have seen down to -20F (during that time texas almost lost their power grid) and up to 115F.
  Its currently 110F. Aka, hot.
  Or, -28c to 46C. Currently 43C. And 40% humidity. Feels horrible.
- I was in Dubai earlier this year and the heat index was 53⁰C. Felt like I was being baked alive.
- I get metric for everything else, but °F is the better system for everyday/non scientific use. I will die on this hill.
  
  That's because Fahrenheit is % of hot, based on what we feel. Therefore, °F is better for everyday use.

Kelvin gang
- bursts into flames

I don’t know if they stopped, but American kids at least used to be taught both Celsius and Fahrenheit. At least in some parts anyway. I was taught both as a kid, with my school largely banning the use of Fahrenheit by staff on campus even, for instance.

I was taught both.
Just like I was taught both metric and imperial.
I use both temp scales, though fahrenheit is more common.
I use both measurements scales, though imperial is more common.
One thing I've never understood though. Metric is more precise for measurements (at least without needing to involve fractional measures). I totally get why it's superior for a lot of things, and indeed it is used in many places for this exact reason.
Why would anyone say Celsius is better? Apart from freezing and boiling temps seeming somewhat arbitrary with fahrenheit, does it not allow for much higher precision with regards to temperature identification without resorting to decimals? Isn't this the same rationale used with metric vs imperial? It seems like a double standard to me, because remembering two temperatures (for boiling and freezing) seems like a small price to pay for a more precise system.
- I've always thought Fahrenheit was the better measurement in regards to weather. 0 F is uncomfortably cold, 100 F is uncomfortably hot. It makes so much sense for the weather. 0 C is freezing, 100 C you are dead. Of course, for most things Celsius makes more sense, and even though I live in the US I don't even know how to measure computer temperatures in F, it just sounds crazy. When it comes to weather though? Fahrenheit is where it is, in my opinion.
  Please guys, I know plenty of you will disagree with me, that's okay, this is just my opinion. Please don't get upset I know metric is generally better!
  
  I always found fahrenheit a lot more arbitrary: in Celsius 0 is the freezing of water, so if you are driving/walking, that is a very important temperature to look out for. Also 30 being hot or 100 being hot outside does not really make a difference. Some people find 30 hot, some other find it OK, since its subjective anyway
  
  You are already using Celsius as well. If you just did not know Fahrenheit, you obviously would not miss it. To us Celcius feels just as natural as Fahrenheit does to you. It would be nice to have one global system we can agree on, just like we agree on english being the language of the internet. English is my 2nd language and if I can learn a whole other language, then americans can learn metric. (Is celcius part of the metric system? I have no idea tbh)
  
  Fahrenheit is asking a human how hot it is, Celsius is asking water. This is what I was taught. I have no idea how you ask water for anything
- Celcius is better if you didn't grow up drinking the USA koolaid
  
  Celsius*
  I only use Fahrenheit for cooking with my oven, and that is it. But I'm Canadian.
- Because precision has nothing to do with it and it's all about being easy to convert between different units and having sensible zero and 100-points for temperature?
  
  How often do you convert temperature to different units? Isn't that what we are stupid for doing?
  And I would like to know why precision is irrelevant for temperature but relevant for other things.
  I'm being genuine, I'm not trying to shit on you. I'm pretty open about liking the metric system, and I think the reason we don't use it is largely the extreme administrative costs of doing so more than anyone thinking imperial is actually better. I think most agree it's pretty clearly worse.
  But I legitimately don't understand how people can argue Celsius over fahrenheit when the arguments for fahrenheit largely match those for the metric system.
  
  Fahrenheit has a fairly sensible 0 - just as Celsius is the temp of ice water, Fahrenheit is the temp of salty ice water.
  
  Why write 36.111 C when you could write 97 F? Its the same reason you write 3cm instead of 0.03m. Its just more convenient even though its the same thing.
- I pointed something similar with regard to thermometers to a group of European tourists. In Farenheidt, 98.6 is the normal temperature and if you are getting sick, people will say that 99 is a low-grade fever. While that is a. 4 degree difference in F, that's only a .2 difference in C.
  Likewise for weather, F is much more precise and easier to communicate given that there is a smaller interval between units. There's more than 2 units difference in F for every 1 unit difference in C. That's huge when you're talking about the difference between 38 and 39 C
  
  It may astonish you to learn that it's very easy to work in fractional degrees Celsius and it's done commonly.
- Celsius is better because it's the standard used by almost the entire world. If you're talking with anyone but Americans or you're working in science then you're using Celsius.
  The rest is just arbitrary - you can get used to either system.
  
  Ah the old "it's what everyone does so it must be better" argument. A classic.

Shorts in 10C is standard practice for me. Really not that cold for us in the NorthWest. Now if we're talking Southern Californians 10C is heavy winter jacket weather.

30 is hot 20 is nice 10 is cold 0 is ice

American here. Always knew C temps.
10 c cool 20 c perfect 30 c ok I need shade and a body of water 40 c wtf 50 c I’m dead
- -5C your pee freezes when it hits the ground -25C you pee freezes internally -35C you pack the floofier sleeping bag for camping
  
  -60C your hands freeze in minutes without very thick gloves.

Me, an American, laughs in PC temperatures always being in C

Double Celsius and add 30. It'll get you close enough for environment temps.
10*2 is 20, plus 30 = 50.
(10°C × 9/5) + 32 = 50°F
30 doubled is 60, plus 30 is 90.
(30°C × 9/5) + 32 = 86°F
10°C is mild af. Who tf doesn't wear shorts when it's 50F?
If you want to sound more metal, tell people how cold it is in celsius. Was it kinda cold or was it in the negatives?
- I find it easier to just remember the approximate table.
  0C = 30F
  10C = 50F
  20C = 70F
  30C = 90F

Let's ignore the fact that celsius is taught in American schools because "hAha AMeRiCa bAd beCauSe nO MeTric."
- Then why don't you USE IT?
  
  I personally use metric as much as I can. The temperature on my phone for example is in celsius, try me.
  
  Because for weather, °F is arguably better. 0°F - 100°F is the general range that most weather on the planet happens at (yes I know there are extremes where it gets to like -30°F or 120°F, but bear* with me). You can then further break those up into 10°F segments that are a bit more practical and granular than 10°C segments:
  under 0°F: stay inside
  0°F - 10°F: really fucking cold, don't stay out too long or you risk hypothermia
  10°F - 20°F: still really cold, but you can stay out long enough to shovel your driveway without fear of losing fingers/toes, if you're wearing winter gear
  20°F - 30°F: cold but not bitterly so. Perfect weather for outdoor winter activities like sledding or snowball fights
  30°F - 40°F: Snow starts melting here, and you can probably ditch the scarf, but you still need a winter jacket
  40°F - 50°F: Too warm for your heavy winter jacket, to cold for your light spring jacket. It's layering season baybee
  50°F - 60°F: still layering season, but you can probably get by with just a light jacket at this point, especially if you're doing something active outside. Some people start breaking out the shorts, but that's not the norm.
  60°F - 70°F: a more generally acceptable range to start wearing shorts and short sleeves. Perfect temps for doing yard work and sipping beers on the patio alike
  70°F - 80°F: definitely shorts weather, and pools start coming into play. If you're doing something rigorous outside, you're probably sweating
  80°F - 90°F: you'd probably rather be inside, if you're not in a pool. You'll be sweating just lounging in your deck chair.
  90°F - 100°F: hot as balls, probably not worth going outside for very long, as the pool water feels like taking a dip in lukewarm soup
  Over 100°F: stay inside
  Now I know you can do something similar with °C, but the workable range there is smaller, because you're going from like -15°C to 40°C. It's less granular, and the start/stop temps are more awkward.
  Is it weird that water freezes at 32°F and boils at 212°F? Sure, absolutely. When you're doing stuff in that context, it absolutely makes sense to use Celsius, where you're working on a nice, neat 0°C-100°C range. But weather, the thing most people contextualize temperatures with, doesn't happen in that range. It starts well below freezing, and (hopefully) doesn't get anywhere close to the boiling point of water. For that, I'd argue °F is actually a little more useful.
  
  Because it doesn't have as much resolution as Fahrenheit.
  There are 180 degrees between freezing water and boiling water in °F. But 100 degrees between the two in °C. So with Fahrenheit we can give mote accurate temperature info without resorting to decimal degrees. And if your response is "learn to handle decimals" then the same argument can be given for inches vs mm.
- It’s taught but not really for weather. So while I know the boiling and freezing points of various substances in Celsius, I don’t have instant recognition when I hear a Celsius temperature, I have to convert it in my head.
  
  No need to convert. 0 to 40 is the part of the scale for weather, where 0 is dangerously cold and 40 is dangerously hot.

10° C is warm lmao, where I live winter can get as cold as -34°C
- Where I am in Aus we'd be lucky to see 0C once or twice a year at most in the middle of the night in the middle of winter for maybe an hour. I put on long pants or a sweater under 20C.
  
  In the UK this summer we've been lucky if it hits 20°C this year. I've been in shorts all summer. We had a nice June but since then it's been cloudy and rainy. Regardless I've been in shorts since June. Winter is typically a single figure affair so summer is always very much welcomed. Feels like we haven't had one this year :(

Americans: why would I care how water feels

European kids laughing at the perceived intellectual inferiority of Americans once again

I don't understand the meme and I use C...

Just admit it, Celsius is garbage, use Kelvin cowards. Also this: Temperature scales
- Kelvin use the same scale as Celsius, the only difference is the zero point. The imperial system and Farenheit sucks and result very expensive and cause even deaths because of wrong conversions: Crushed 2 Mars probes >$350M, flight crash with more than 130 victims because of an error calculating the amount of fuel, wrong amount of medicine respect bodyweight, etc..
  https://www.vox.com/2015/2/16/8031177/america-fahrenheit
  
  vs
  
  The US doesn't use imperial, it uses US customary.
  There's no US customary Roman mile, ell or skeine, for example.
  Chains and links are basically standard surveyors chains. They're distinct units in their own right in the sense that a metric chain or metric link is. Should your metric chart have a metric chain on it? What about light years or parsecs?
  Hands are used in measuring horses, and that's basically it. They're used in commonwealth countries, the US and South Africa.
  
  I’m sorry, but Fahrenheit has nothing to do with the errors you cited. Hell, even the overall Imperial system, silly an (mostly) antiquated as it is, has nothing to do with the examples you cited.
  The expensive failures you listed were caused by a lack of standardization. Those failures wouldn’t have taken place if every international agency had standardized on the Imperial system or the metric system.
  Your point is not only a nonsensical non sequitur, it is also wrong.
  
  decameters

Shit use of the meme bro

Okay but explain fractional inches and why this proves that the imperial system is flawed
- Whoever thought having to say "it's 13/64 inches long" was a good idea needs to fuck right off.
  
  American are like "cut 37/64 and 52 thousandths of an inch off your 2 by 4 inch piece of wood, that's obviously not 2 by 4 inches", and don't get me started on wire gauge.
  
  Bruh when they invented the inches. They thought that quarter inch precision was good af.

Irc the US is now the only (or one of two countries) that doesn't officially use the metric system. Uncle Sam just needs to rip the bandaid off.
- Metric is Fer socialistcommies...now let me chug this 2L coke!
  
  Fuk yeah brother! God Bless the Double Large Coke freedom unit! /S
- Except they do use the metric system, all their imperial units are defined by metric units.
  
  That is at least a better basis than the barleycorn.

I can understand canadians wearing shorts on a 10° day, Aussies sometimes do the same. But what Australian wears a jacket on a 30°C day???

Hey cool, we're like the Fire Nation

10C? I see people wear shorts below zero. Some people just don't get cold.

American kids wear hoodies in 30C+ for some bizarre reason.
- It's camouflage from perverts and Terfs.

MY CAR GETS 18 FARTHINGS TO THE HOGSHEAD AND THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE IT

An American: lmao. Seriously? Y’all weak. No shirt & Mohawk/Mullet all day! Lol just messing around

The C is the grade those kids on got in "Temperature Understanding Class" because they're almost failing.

My C*nadian ass at 17°:

Multiply by 2 and add 30

Not gonna lie, this is my experience.
At least I try. I have the gist of it, and agree it's a more sane scale. I know 40 is around 100f, for example.

Not just us not understanding Celcius. Where I come from, we wear shorts down to 0°C or lower.
- Seriously, my first reaction was "10C isn't even that cold."

It actually depends on humidity and movement of wind as well as tempreture

The easy but not quite right conversion from C to F is to double it, then add 30.
F to C is subtract 30 and divide by 2.
- I've always learned 32, not 30
  
  When doing a simple double/half, 30 will give less average error between 0° and 100°C. Though the real formula is C * 9 / 5 + 32 = F

As a Canadian who spent a few years of my youth in Australia: I can definitely confirm.
I spent most of my ozzy summers in a black hoodie for some god forsaken reason, and I also wear shorts in winter occasionally....

Americans do understand Celsius, although it is unfortunately not as commonly used for weather/room temperature as Fahrenheit
- Not all of us do. Source: me
- Honest question: other than the number of people using Celsius, what benefits does Celsius bring over Fahrenheit?
  Even the scientific community felt the need to hollow out the Celsius scale, leaving the numerical values of Celsius in tact but otherwise completely decoupling the scale from the properties of water when it created kelvin. It instead moved to measured values, like basically all other SI/metric units.
  Celsius is there to describe water. Well, it’s used to describe a mostly pure form of water. Well, it’s used to describe a mostly pure form of water at around sea level. So, why does that make Celsius more relevant or useful for temperatures than Fahrenheit?
  Frankly, it feels like Celsius is, to the rest of the world, what the Imperial system is to the US: a vestige of times past that has been supplanted by a better, measurement-based standard, but has yet to be abandoned because it is so entrenched in popular culture.
  
  Celsius and Kelvin are identical, just shifted scales.
  Fahrenheit has an equivalent which is rankine. It's not that one is evidence based over the other, one is just absolute temperature and one shifted to be useful, essentially.

I always wear shorts. 50f/10c isnt gonna stop me.

Unpopular opinion time; the US already uses metric/Celsius where it matters; in science, engineering and the military. Where it doesn't matter, we use a weird hybrid system that makes intuitive sense to us and is accordingly perfectly functional and doesn't need to be changed.

Is it weird that I use C for negative and F for positive? lol
- Is 31° positive or negative?
  
  That is honestly a good question lol

the fact that 20-30 points goes from freezing cold to death and destruction and fire is everything that's wrong with Celsius for weather.
F for weather C for chemistry K for astronomy
FCK one unit of measure.
- Why is that a problem once you know it? I know 0 is kinda cold, 20 is kind warm and 30 is kinda hot.
  
  45 is shit
  
  Loss of precision. Most digital thermostats only display two digits for cost savings. I've had experiences with mini-splits that are too cold at 27 and too hot at 28.
- Mate, it's metric, if you need more units just go down an order and you have 200 to 300 units.
- In Celsius we at least have some leeway to adapt to the rising temperature of the Climate.
  
  talk about your silver lining! Hey, we never really got to use 50 deg C in weather yet! Hype!

Me when everything else: BURN THE EMPIRE DEATH TO AMERIKKA
Me when measurements: USA! USA! USA! USA!
- Metric system is much simpler and conversion is easy Numbers are also much less arbitrary
  
  100% but also I'm lazy and old and imperial is forever second nature

They’re both made up numbers by humans 🤷

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