Trump Tells Generals the Military Will Be Used to Fight ‘Enemy Within’
Trump Tells Generals the Military Will Be Used to Fight ‘Enemy Within’
Trump Tells Generals the Military Will Be Used to Fight ‘Enemy Within’
It is blatantly unconstitutional and impeachable
Assuming we have elections next year, and further assuming Democrats don’t pooch it, impeachment is all but certain (if they don’t screw that up too)
Impeachment is pointless if you can't get enough votes to convict. To do that without republican votes would require the democrats to win literally every senate race. Not going to happen, no matter how much the republicans deserve to lose.
Slightly less unlikely would be for a huge wave election to give a large majority to democrats and for a handful of republicans to be willing to vote with the dems because they start seeing the trump administration as a political liability. Still insanely unlikely, just not as unlikely as a clean sweep in the midterms.
Don't worry, they're gonna fuck the whole thing up
Even if they do win how are they going to enforce their win ? Because I’m skeptical that we’re going to see a peaceful transition of power away from the gold plated pedo king
How convenient is it for them that the only body that can hold them accountable (Congress) is rooting them on, and purposefully letting them off the hook!
The Supreme Court as well. So much for checks and balances....
impeachable
We gotta get it through society's skull broadly that laws don't actually exist. We all follow a social expectation, an unwritten contract. The rest is just paperwork to work out what we do when someone breaks it.
The liberal expectation that law will prevail is how democracies fall over and over.
There are no laws, we made the whole thing up. There is no constitution, we made the whole thing up. There are no human rights, we made the whole thing up. There are no citizens, we made the whole thing up. My suggestion for the new military oath.
I think if the average first-world liberal really understood how flimsy everything actually is, and how little is separating us from dark-ages pillaging and raping, people would be far more terrified of voting in the wrong people.
If I had to come up with the most un-American thing (as in American self-image) anyone could say, this is probably it.
I'm still waiting for Trump to publicly burn the constitution on the Whitehouse lawn
So, the department of war is deploying troops to our cities where we live.
Is there, like, a word for when armed men from tge department of war go to a place to kill people?
"special military operation"
Hostile takeover
The world could really use American creativity, industrialism, and prosperity right now, instead we're just going to punch ourselves in the dick for 4 years.
I'm sorry my country is so stupid.
4 years, I'm betting on 12. It may not be Trump in charge in 2029, but it will be whom the executive branch chooses because they now have direct control over the FCC, and all Campaign money. They can "legally" nudge out any support for candidates they don't want running.
Not to mention all the tech billionaires falling in line and offering up their services.
If there is an election and we don’t go to war just to enact wartime policies to “postpone” it
Relatedly, Fiddle And The Drum has been stuck in my head for a few weeks.
The album Year Zero by Nine Inch Nails has been getting a lot of play for me, recently. It's amazing how long the alarm bells have been going off for people paying attention.
Makes me think of the Russian Militsia. Not sure they still have it, but in the late 90s there was no other (visible) Police.
Trump, in my opinion, knows that Trump would lose any war other than against his own civilians.
We are surprisingly fat and stupid as a whole, you could probably kill a lot of people by hanging fried meat over a cliff or spreading new viral trends like eating lead and huffing exhaust fumes.
Or going maskless in a pandemic of respiratory-carried disease
Tell everyone they now have public health care ... then let them run into a bamboo trap in front of the signup sheet
America was founded on guerilla warfare during authoritarian occupation by a mad tyrant. I think we will give him a run for his money if the hamberders don't catch up soon
Eeeh. First, "mad tyrant" is a bit of a stretch. The crown was, by the standards of the time, much more lax with the colonies than other territories. More of a "late onset bipolar disorder constitutional monarch acting under advisement of qualified ministers". Breaking away to try "not monarchy" and implement much of what we now consider modern government was by no means wrong, but it's not quite the clear cut battle against evil the founding narrative describes.
Second, that was 250 years ago. Just about the only lingering effect is the slogan which has some inspirational qualities.
The bigger thing is that the military hasn't fought against a technological equal in decades, and has never fought an asymmetrical war against a technological equal. If the opponent is close to technological parity, they use overwhelming force to remove that parity, and then fight from there. They can't do that against the US, because they need those resources as well. Additionally, most of our defensive strategy relies on it being impossible to attack us in a reasonable way. The only force that can get here has to be small and sneaky. In a civil war situation, a significant number of military facilities are basically inside cities. They have defenses, but not the way they do in an overseas base. And being in cities, a significant number of pretty important sites are inside the areas that are currently being designated as hostile.
All the people doing the boring logistics and paperwork that drives most of the US military have to commute through the dangerous areas. Most of their families live nearby.
The core belief behind Fascism: Palengenetic Ultra-nationalism — the belief that society was once great, but that greatness has waned because of the enemy within. For the Nazis, it was the Jew. For the US, it is the immigrant and the LGBT.
Of course its all a lie. For the Nazis, it was WW1 and the Weimar Republic. For the US, it is the rich and powerful (starting with Regan). Make no mistake. Fascism is here now. We even have the camps and secret police. Just wait for them to start utilizing Zyklon B.
Why does it look and sound like a Fox News host cosplaying as War Secr... Oh wait
Does anyone remember when Texas mobilized its national guard because of the conspiracy theory that Obama would deploy troops against US cities? So Texas is going to mobilize because Trump announced his threat. Right? Right?
Unfortunately this time, it's not just Russian propaganda.
But Trump is the enemy within
Being puppeted by the enemy without!
“I’ve never walked into a room so silent before,” said Trump, who also suggested that officers were free to ignore his comments. “If you don’t like what I’m saying, you can leave the room, of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future,” he jested.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!
Fire.
He jested??? Fuck the WSJ for that. Another form of sanewashing, the "edgy journalism" type.
Wait. Isn't the current administration the enemy within? Do you think anyone in that room interpreted the message that way?
Fucking treason against the Republic. He is the enemy of the State.
Enemy of the nation, sure. Enemy of the country, the people, sure sure. But as the uncontested leader of the State, he just declared it's enemies to be the politically disloyal. People like you and me.
He also just declared any of those generals his enemies, if they choose to honor their vow to the Constitution, over him. That makes him the enemy of the very institutions they swore an oath to protect.
C'mon military, do a coup. Get rid of this administration for us.
/pipedream
C’mon Americans, do a coup. Get rid of this administration for us.
Okay. But about all the
Apparently it doesn't matter to these people because there are other. weaker people to persecute.
It doesn't matter to them because they want to be the ones doing the child raping, it's now up to them to prove they don't want to rape children.
And every officer in that room is apparently okay with it.
I wouldn't assume that yet. They still haven't been given the illegal orders yet. We'll see what happens when Trump orders the military (not the National Guard, the actual Army) into Chicago and New York.
“I’ve never walked into a room so silent before,” said Trump, who also suggested that officers were free to ignore his comments. “If you don’t like what I’m saying, you can leave the room, of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future,” he jested.
Showing token opposition now accomplishes nothing. They could slightly diminish the fascist photo op, but at the price of losing their opportunity to do something later when it actually matters.
That they all seem to be less than thrilled about the situation is a good sign. That said, I'm not going to hold my breath for any of them to disobey orders or arrest the president. At most, I would expect them to only do the bare minimum to be able to say they followed orders, with perhaps a little bit of malicious compliance where possible. Unfortunately, most of them will probably just pass the illegal orders down the chain of command with a brief reminder to the troops that they also need to obey the law while carrying out those orders.
But if there are people in that room who want to resist, it probably wasn't a great idea to drag them back from all over the world and put them in one place where they can potentially meet up and discuss things offline. Given the situation, I wouldn't be shocked if some of them wanted to make sure that others were on the same page and maybe discuss some hypotheticals.
But if there are people in that room who want to resist, it probably wasn't a great idea to drag them back from all over the world and put them in one place where they can potentially meet up and discuss things offline. Given the situation, I wouldn't be shocked if some of them wanted to make sure that others were on the same page and maybe discuss some hypotheticals.
Discuss offline, and exchange details for secure long-distance communication. I don't know how many military types will be into PGP, but hey, Signal is whiskeyleaks-approved and actually works great when you don't drunkenly add random journalists
That was no jest.
Either that or they know that a walk out is hilariously less effective than sitting there and taking it, and then beginning to plan a coup after they speech is over.
In military tactics, telegraphing your next move to your enemy is generally inadvisable.
I dunno how familiar you are with the US military recruitment and training process, but they are very much selected for and drilled specifically to follow orders without question. I wouldn't advise getting your hopes up that there's going to be some sudden mass resistance within the military against fascist orders. It's not impossible, but very unlikely.
I think it's more likely that they don't follow orders simply because they recognize how fucking stupid their leadership is. They have been drilled to follow orders but they are also some of the most competent strategic minds there are. The buffoonery of Trump and Hegseth probably makes them feel like they are far above these fools, just simply because it's clear that their bosses are absolute morons. Further, they have to also be keenly aware that Hegseth has minimal actual military experience and Trump has none at all. Why would they follow orders from people they have no intellectual respect for and think are making grave tactical mistakes? They won't go on suicide missions just because an uneducated fuckwit told them to.
My understanding was that officers are generally far more educated (and have even heard before that they tend to lean left?) compared to enlisted soldiers.
And generals are the tippy top of that. I have a small amount of hope that the people there know better than to allow this to continue.
He also spent 20 minutes rambling about aluminum battleships and shit.
He could help with that whole enemy within thing by killing himself in a way that maximizes collateral damage among his cabinet. Like if he just spontaneously combusted during one of those ass-kissing meetings of his. One can only hope.
If he suicide bombed a cabinet meeting that'd be great.
Trump hates Americans.
He also announced a purge of military leadership.
What's he going to do, tell them to shoot him?
Love to be a fly on the wall to hear what these generals said privately. How many will be fired vs how many will actively support Orange Hitler’s BS.
I miss when life was boring.
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
Two stupid larpers trying to tell soldiers how to be better.
I like Jack Reacher books. Guilty pleasure. So much fun to read.
Anyhow, he loved the army, being a soldier, the honor, truthfulness and responsibility. He would not stand for this.
Sorry if it sounds kitchy but my mind just makes that connection.
Having read most books, I could spin it into a whole narrative.
Non stealth battleships what a future grift!
her laugh tho
The Shadow Demons?
I mean I know trumps things are always like this but every time it seems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOJSM46nWwo&list=RDSOJSM46nWwo&start_radio=1