@linux any global mesh networks that could replace ISP's?
@linux any global mesh networks that could replace ISP's?
@linux any global mesh networks that could replace ISP's?
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How do you expect to cross the oceans? RFC1149?
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Sharks with laser beams!
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Hear me out - you could run, like, a sneaker-net but with cargo ships!
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The bandwidth on that would be just insane. Pity about the latency though.
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The problem with using RFC1149 is rounding up and training enough seabirds—pigeons won't fly that far over water. Albatrosses would be ideal, but there might not be enough of them available.
Hmm. Can we instead attach mesh repeater units to the albatrosses, and hope that enough of them take up optimum spacing for long-distance transmission? Or perhaps it would be better to just string a line of buoys across the Bering Strait once Russia stops being cantakerous. Then all we have to do is find a way to connect up Australia and a few assorted islands here and there.
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@wildbus8979 I'm not sure, I just thought it would be awesome yo have a fully p2p internet
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What's the purpose on replace ISP's? Create a new whole mesh of ISP's from scratch?
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From what I understand it's the final form of decentralization. The idea is that a bunch of user/community owned computers communicate with each other and act like an alternative community based internet provider. Big cities already implement some form of this like NYC.
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@BaalInvoker get rid of the major telecoms companies who spy on us all
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How would you propose connecting to a mesh network without the use of an ISP? Are you thinking wireless (wifi)? For something like that to work you would need an AP/repeater every 150 feet or so. How would you cross oceans without bouncing wireless signals off the ionosphere (creating latency issues) or using a cable (requiring some entity to maintain it - $$$)?
If you break it down into the requirements to do such a thing you can start to understand why your question is a bit ridiculous.
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@stown I don't think its ridiculous, especially given how they've strung cables across the ocean haha
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I remember reading about a "guerilla wifi" mesh network in NYC, and I did a bit of research on connecting to that several years ago. It turned out I was too far away from Manhattan to be in range. But also from what I read a series of small-scale peer-to-peer connections don't give you the low-latency or throughput of a good backbone.
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Actually I'd like to add a note about how much I appreciate infrastructure. It would be great if we could all equally own and control the Internet. But when you get down to it, societies pooling their efforts can do things that small, independent groups can't, such as building tier 1 network backbones.
Looking at it another way, if you did have a global mesh network it would be made up of electronics that take tremendous systems of supply chains and factories to build and distribute. That's sort of the same idea: large-scale infrastructure that small groups can't pull off.
If I had my way I would keep the large-scale networks, but change the governance model to shift the primary organizational motivation from profit to human wellbeing.
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@eclipse @VENMusica how does meshtastic work beyond the local peer to peer
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