1 person dead and 9 injured in shooting at Michigan church, police say
The shooting happened Sunday at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc, about 50 miles north of Detroit.
A GMC truck complete with two American flag poles on the back. Classic.
Classic leftist antifa. Better round up every trans person, just in case.
Dear trans Democratic partner. I hope this message finds you in good health. I have left the vehicle in a place unbeknownst to policemen. I will now briefly outline how I have acted under the sway of the radical Trans Antifa group.
I really wonder if leftists really are this brainwashed to parrot such an obviously incorrect narrative. The answer is "yes, they are this brainwashed."
He has a Trump Vance sign on his fence. Right wing extremism is a real serious problem https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2025/09/thomas-tom-jacob-sanford-michigan-lds-church-shooter-decorated-war-veteran-trump-supporter/
The reports I read said the shooter had trump signs at his house. He’s maga for sure https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/thomas-jacob-sanford-trump-supporter-michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooters-political-affiliation-democrat-or-republican-101759091935370.html
your comment is extra funny when maga folks listen to fox religiously, which is literally a propaganda outlet for trump.
What leftists are shooting right wingers you fucking moron open your goddamn eyes fuck
Except literally the meme plays out every single time.
Ok genuinely trying to understand what you’re saying here. You say “narrative” but that implies that someone is writing a story. Can you please be specific?
Someone hasn't been paying attention to where a vast majority of political violence comes from.
Rump keeps pointing fingers at "radical extreme left antifé..." and every week another one of his followers does a mass murder.
As planned.
Whoops! Ha ha. I meant totally . . random chance!
You might even call it... stochastic.
How long ago was it that this wasn't a regular occurence?
Before Columbine.
The fact that when you say "Columbine" we immediately know you're talking about the shooting at Columbine means that it was noteworthy enough to not be a regular occurrence then. Same with Sandy Hook. Nowadays we don't even question why anymore, and few people would recognize the Evergreen school shooting that happened a couple weeks ago from the name of the school alone.
The first shooting I remember was the Heath High School shooting in 1997. Things haven't been ok for a long time
I don't remember the last time I've seen the Las Vegas massacre sometime in the last 10 years was mentioned. A huge amount of people died then and I don't think many people remember it at all
Admittedly did not read the article yet. This is my prediction:
Willing to put money on this being a conservative that is getting revenge on Mormons because of the Kirk killing being in Utah.
Tyler Robinson was raised Mormon so this might very well be the reason.
Hey, let's maybe wait a bit before even reading anything this time. AP itself is quite trustworthy IMO, but the sources themselves often aren't - AP reports what it finds out, but they get their data from police, FBI, etc - not a single link in the chain is infallible, which is why it's best to wait till a bit more is known.
With the Kirk shooter, first he was trans, then he was a groyper, and then later on it turned out he has a trans girlfriend and he was sick of the hate Kirk was spewing. Hell, maybe even THAT isn't the final version. The first one was super comfy for conservatives to believe, the second version was super comfy for the left to believe, and the final version... Honestly again, sounds a bit too convenient. So we'll see.
So it's the left fault!?!??
/s
In their mind? Yeah? Probably. 🙄
Honestly, I hope they all just take each other out
My guess is the dude had some kind of a massive crash out after an argument with his wife.
I come from white trash.
I know how this tends to work.
That being said: total guess, in the sense that I do not have any actual evidence to back up or corroborate this idea.
I will though note that it is odd that... well, with Kirk's shooter, we hear all about and from family members and roommates/partners, anyone related to the person... because everyone wants this info so as to attempt to create a narrative/motive, whether trying to do this objectively or in an obviously biased way.
This guy?
Maybe I've missed it but I've not seen or heard a single mention of any LE contacting his family or media outlets getting any statements from amybody he knew.
But this also has not stopped a good chunk of right wing people from doing the most pathetically transparent motivated reasoning I've seen in a while.
How will they ever discover this pathetic man was trans?
Not needed. They just have to say he was influenced by ” radical trans antifa ideology”
His brother’s girlfriend’s cousin’s barber once liked a photo of a trans person’s cat on instagram. Case. Fucking. Closed.
I wonder what color of crayon he used to write "i <3 antifa" on his bullet casings
I shit you not, they're saying he was against trump because he had his trump/pence sign hanging on his fence visible in proximity to a stop sign.
Also, some people have pointed out that a "T Sanford" is a donor to the "BLUE ORIGIN LLC PAC", which is obviously a democratic PAC, and not the lobbying group for the private space flight company Blue Origin LLC, who coincidentally has a Tommy Sanford as their sales director. Because people never have the same name.
Let me guess, he's got The Internationale inscribed on every bullet.
Haters will say it's fake:
If this guy has a Mauser the conspiracists heads will explode.
Don't show this to Trump, he'll insist that it's real.
With sharpie
I know a lot of good Mormon people/friends and the ones I’m around are such wonderful people. My heart hurts for them and my thoughts are with their community during this time. How sad.
Someone reported they were in the building right after the first call and mentioned there were 4 canvasses covering people and the cops said it would grow. So I suspect this is an early count before they get to the burned section.
Mormons generally come in two flavors: wonderful people taken advantage of by a cult and absolute scum who utilize the cult to abuse others. So here's hoping the shooter got some of the abusers.
The more likely target is of course kids because of Sunday School.
The impact spread quickly to neighboring communities, including the small city that shares a name with the township.
“Although we are two separate governmental units, we are a very cohesive community,” said city of Grand Blanc Mayor John Creasey. “This sort of thing is painful for our entire community. I’m struggling to digest all that has happened, and my heart goes out to all of the affected families.”
Nervous reporter calls wrong number by mistake, feels obliged to put comment in story anyway, more at 11
Damn it, Tylenol!
Thomas Jacob Sanford, 40, was identified as the shooter responsible for a mass shooting at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan, on Sunday, September 28, 2025. Sanford drove his pickup truck into the church, exited the vehicle, and opened fire with an assault rifle on congregants during a service. He also deliberately set fire to the church building. The shooting resulted in the deaths of at least two people, with several others injured. Sanford was killed by law enforcement officers in a shootout at the scene.
Sanford was a US Marine Corps veteran who served in Iraq from 2004 to 2008 and lived in Burton, Michigan. His vehicle was reportedly decorated with two large American flags, and social media posts suggest a possible Trump support sign at his residence, though these affiliations have not been officially confirmed by authorities. The motive for the attack remains under investigation, with searches conducted at his home and examination of his cellphone records. There were also reports of improvised explosive devices found near the church. The incident shocked the community, especially as it occurred shortly after the death of Russell M. Nelson, the longtime president of the church [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10].
Citations: [1] Thomas Sanford a Trump supporter? Big claim on ... https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/thomas-jacob-sanford-trump-supporter-michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooters-political-affiliation-democrat-or-republican-101759091935370.html [2] Who is Thomas Sanford? Michigan Mormon church ... https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/who-is-thomas-sanford-michigan-grand-blanc-mormon-church-shooting-suspect-identified-as-iraq-war-veteran-101759088332418.html [3] Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID'd as gunman who ... https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/iraq-war-veteran-thomas-sanford-idd-as-gunman-who-attacked-grand-blanc-lds-church-killing-2-and-setting-it-ablaze/ [4] Police identify suspect in mass shooting at Grand Blanc ... https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2025/09/28/police-identify-suspect-in-mass-shooting-at-grand-blanc-township-church/ [5] Grand Blanc church shooting: What's known about ... https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooting-suspect [6] Live updates: Church attack kills 2, injures 8; suspect ... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/michigan-church-shooting-live-updates-rcna234221 [7] Photos emerge of truck decked out in American flags that ... https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/photos-emerge-of-truck-decked-out-in-american-flags-that-gunman-crashed-into-mormon-church-before-shooting/ [8] Live updates: Church shooting and fire in Grand Blanc ... https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/church-shooting-fire-michigan-09-28-25 [9] Two killed and eight injured as suspect named in Michigan ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62l7x0v5e5t [10] Suspect Identified in Shooting at Mormon Church in Michigan https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/breaking-suspect-identified-shooting-mormon-204305951.html
You probably shouldn't trust the Hindustan Times, they are not a credible news source
That's not what your link says, it says mixed, and if you want to talk about bias, why didn't you also do the same check for all the other sources? Example: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/ Much worse and the factual score is lower.
Maga on maga violence is trending in 2025.
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said in a statement that her heart was breaking for the community. “Violence anywhere especially in a place of worship, is unacceptable,” she said.
Governor Gretchen Whitmer pointedly declined to use the word “genocide” on a Sunday morning news show to describe the war in Gaza and the massive Palestinian civilian death toll as Israel tries to eliminate Hamas.
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Michigan has one of the nation’s largest Arab-American and Muslim-American populations.
“I’m watching this very closely and doing what I can to support all of these communities here in Michigan,” Whitmer said.
Huh.
So I guess it is acceptable, sometimes.
Thou shalt not kill*
Man, it's crazy how not using the word genocide in April of 2024, not saying it wasn't a genocide but simply not saying it was while also calling it terrible, is both clearly communicating that she supports killing Palestinians and also super timely and extremely relevant to an attack a year and a half later.
Western liberals have always been like this.
Western society is predicated on some people being more human than others (but, but my enlightenment values. ha)
Christian institutions tied themselves into knots to morally justify the horrors of the colonial era and Atlantic slave trade. The conclusion they reached is some people are just more peopley than others. These people being Christians.
Western attitudes towards human rights, egalitarianism etc are a direct extension of this era. Patting themselves on the back on being the chosen people and treating their own well while treating others like they're the scum of the Earth.
The FBI is leading the investigation and considered it an “act of targeted violence,” said Ruben Coleman, a special agent in charge for the bureau.
Thank goodness it wasn’t a terrorist attack!
The guy hat USA flags on his truck. How could he be a terrorist!?
So a Freedom Attack then
And again, to the disappointment of the MAGA heads, it is one of theirs, not a leftie.
And he was shooting their own too.
Mormons have to realize maga evangelicals don't see them as christians and they're like #6 on MAGA's murder lists of targets.
I’ve tried to convince my relatives of this but they will Ernst Röhm themselves right up until the last second because it owns the libs
Oh hell, I wonder if the guy that did this did it because the guy that helped Kirk achieve his objective was Mormon.
Thoughts and, ehem, prayers
Wait wait wait wait. Mormons?
So it's just another example of the biggest threat to conservatives is themselves.
The other kind of mass shooting.
That's catholic. This was Mormon. Pretty funny anyway. (The joke, not the shooting.)
Sparkling massacre?
...remind me again how this person was certified to own a firearm?..
…remind me again how this person was certified to own a firearm?..
U.S. Marine - Iraq War Veteran (04-08) with high qualifications on the rifle range and no criminal record. Husband and a father. Gainfully employed.
So why would you disqualify this person in advance based on that history?
The marine part, presumably.
"Muh right to bear arms!"
Pretty fucked up reason, isn't it?
At this time there's nothing in the man's history that would lead anyone to believe that he couldn't be trusted. He was a husband and a father. He was a U.S. Marine (served 04-08) and he had no criminal history. He likely would have passed any 1st world ownership test.
No idea what happened to the guy to make him do this but I'm sure it will come out eventually.
He white?
(Rubbing my eyes with one hand while hanging my head downward) Big sigh. Yeah, he white.
My Mormon mother died about a month ago.
Pity, I cant shove this in her face as evidence that her bigoted dogma was always hypocritical.
Don’t forget to pick up your free thoughts and prayers. Now, nearly all of them are 100% made in the US. Looking good, the United States of America. We’re number one in another thing that’s horrible to be ranked high in, around the world.
I bet they weren't happy when that guy knocked on their door.
(I know, I know, terrible joke, but someone had to say it)
If the two US flags were burned by the fire the POS set, charge him for that too.