Jimmy Kimmel Pulled “Indefinitely” By ABC After Over Charlie Kirk Comments
Jimmy Kimmel is off TV for now after comments the host made about Charlie Kirk
Just to be clear: they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn't one of them. He didn't say anything about Charlie Kirk. He was censored for speaking truth by his own network. Not only censored, censured and suspended indefinitely.
We're 100% there kids. The founding fathers made a point to put something right after freedom of speech, from religion, and of assembly. Right there 2nd in order. Unabridged. Welp the 1st amendment is being abridged as we speak. And I hear that second thing was put in place to protect that first thing. I've been hearing it for over 50 years.
*quick edit in case anyone else wants to try to educate me about the constitution: no, he isn't protected by the 1st amendment from getting suspended. ABC should be protected but seeing as they've already settled for $16 million over threats on their FCC license and brought in new trump-friendly leadership, we can all agree he wasn't suspended due to ratings drops. Stop pretending things are normal. This is an obvious 1st amendment issue.
Yep.
It's not just "ABC" either, it's Disney/Hulu.
I just canceled both services and everyone else should too.
Fuck em. All they care about is money, so let's show them that siding with fascism costs a shit ton of money
If nothing else it will get the CEO who did this fired.
It was a pretty tame comment too. What a bunch of snow flakes.
Hold up - it goes a layer deeper and is actually fairly similar to what happened to Colbert.
ABC had their hand forced because of a pending merger between Nexstar Media Group and Tenga, which once the FCC approves it, would place Nexstar in ownership of 80% of local TV channels in the US. Nexstar is based in Texas, so it's not exactly ABC-Disney friendly.
So they threatened to censor Kimmel themselves on local TV stations unless ABC did it for them. They had on the ground infrastructure power to do this.
And yes, we're 100% there. The key point is to understand that while everyone sees ABC as the Big Bad here, it's the infrastructure companies that have leverage and no one knows their names or how much they actually own.
Edit: Just saw this - Sinclair's local ABC affiliates are replacing Kimmel reruns will air their own CK tribute show, just on their own whatever, fuck ABC's programming.
2A for all. Time to resist in other ways
He'll get to youtube and find success there, hopefully.
youtube is part of the problem, they promote thier current regime, through right wing propaganda flooding the feeds.
Seems unlikely that format would be able to fund his writers / producers etc.
he can still sue them, but he has an escape plan just in case things dont pan out, aka flee to italy.
they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn't one of them
Regardless of how fascist this is of course, I think the killer isn't one of them, though? For what I understood, he grew up in a MAGA family, but then got radicalized towards the left somehow, probably online ecochambers or friends. I mean the bullet engravings, if that's all real, are pretty clear.
Downvote me if you like, but my question is genuine, if anyone will bother to reply.
Radicalized by neonazis, fell for a trans girl, committed the right wing terrorism he was groomed to commit.
Making your first queer friend doesn’t suddenly make a person a leftist, nor does it make their violence leftist.
There's no clear evidence either way. If you cherry pick certain facts you can paint a compelling narrative of any ideology.
My take is the dude, like most Americans, doesn't fit cleanly into right or left politics but was motivated by violent rhetoric targeting queer people. But we'll see if further information comes to light.
Which casing engravings were leftist?
No, not BULLETS. The bullets are the projectiles, not the enclosing brass
Irrelevant. Right or wrong Jimmy cannot be suspended over this.
This has nothing to do with the first amendment.
This is the chilling effect of Trump (the President) suing networks who report the truth about him, and recent rhetoric by members of Congress and the DoJ about using the force of government to silence a tractors. Self-centering before fascist wanna-tator comes after you doesn't make it not a first amendment issue.
It abso-fucking-lutely does.
This is the government controlling speech thru threat of trumped up criminal charges and frivolous lawsuits.
trumps been suing these big corps and they've been caving, it worked.
This time he sicced the FCC on them threatening criminal charges, and it worked again
There has to be consequences in the form of immediate loss of revenue or this will keep working and trump will keep asking for more.
Start paying attention cuz it's getting to the point people won't believe claims of ignorance for where things are headed.
Freedom of the press is literally the first amendment. Television is protected by the first amendment. He was suspended because right wing lunatics didn't like his free speech. In what world does this NOT have anything to do with the first amendment? Why am I even replying to you? You obviously have no idea what free speech means.
Why is everyone acting surprised, Trump said Kimmel is Next after he made Colbert fired: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5410016-donald-trump-jimmy-kimmel-stephen-colbert-cbs/
Yeah this has nothing to do with Kirk and everything to do with fascists being fascists.
Berlusconi did the same 20 years ago in Italy, he made some journalists and TV personalities disappear completely from all TV channels. Trump is just following the same pattern.
If you want to read more about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editto_bulgaro
Clearly it isn't because of his Kirk comments, since he never actually made any. Piss poor excuse and abhorrent behavior by ABC.
Disney owns ABC
ABC is goosestepping now.
They were goosestepping collaborators when they capitulated to Trump with Stephanopoulos.
Charlie Kirk may turn out to be the Poland radio tower for US Civil War 2.
edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
the owner, trumper wants it to become another fox-lite. Which cnn kinda did for a while.
Wasn't Disney goosestepping in the 30s too?
The Nazis are here folks - be ready
They've been there a while, and it's already too late.
here for decades. ever since after clintons presidency, and al gores win being snatched from him by the corrupted scotus. by the way it was gingrich that spearheaded the "never work with dems on the other side" and i think he was one of the people railing on clintion too. Mitch was basically his succesor.
Yep. Anyone that says "fascism is coming" hasn't been outside for a while. It's already here.
See, I'm someone who can't stand Jimmy Kimmel. I find him both unfunny and very annoying as a person, and I never thought there would come a day where I would actually defend him vigorously, but here we are.
This is truly inexcusable. This is the most blatant violation of the first amendment possible. This is a clear cut example of the government coercing and colluding with corporations to censor a private citizen on a private show for comments that are perfectly legal. He was only censored because MAGA morons got triggered by a statement that's not even controversial. Even IF it was controversial, that's literally the whole point of free speech. It's to defend offensive, controversial, and unpopular opinions from government persecution.
See, I didn't care much when Colbert got cancelled because it seemed like it was a business decision, sure, whatever. But this? This is MAGA crossing a line that should never be crossed. We're starting to enter into actual tyranny territory from this administration. The only MAGA conservatives left are either slimy opportunists or blind loyalists, so I'm not holding my breath on them holding themselves accountable. However, I am hoping that everyone else stands up and takes a stand against this because the consequences of this are very, very serious.
Forgive me, but I'm just trying to wrap my head around how many people have been sleeping and still are.
Tyranny is already here. It's been here since they started taking people to concentration camps. Like how do people not get that? The line has already been crossed and then some. Tyranny is here and will continue to reign until you and everybody else who is asleep or groggy are willing to wake up and do the hard but correct actions.
I am amazed and shocked every time the line is crossed.
It is crossing it farther and farther as well, with increasing similarities to other authoritarian lead countries in history.
My shock is not one of ignorance but defying normalcy.
However this stuff has been great for people who didn't pay attention much before or believe stuff before. This time the administration is barely trying to sugarcoat what they are doing.
I think of "the line" as the event horizon around a black hole. You can recognize it from a distance, but it's not like there's a physical barrier you go through when you pass it. That means that if you were actually falling into the hole, you wouldn't necessarily know when you've past the "point of no return." It's all just more freefall (and eventual spaghettification) from your point of view. Only those on the outside, looking in, could see that you're already full and truly screwed.
I think we passed the event horizon long ago. Anyone talking about "going back to normal" (as I've seen some politicians say) is depressingly naive. There is no turning back - the only way out is through.
July 2: Paramount and Trump settle bullshit 60 Minutes lawsuit for $16 million
July 14: Colbert criticizes the lawsuit saying it's a "big fat bribe."
July 17: CBS announces that Colbert is cancelled
Paramount is in the process of a large merger with Skydance Media, which must be approved by regulators (including those controlled/affected by the federal government)
It wasn't as blatantly corrupt, but it was still corrupt.
Thanks for waking up.
Now i wonder what John Oliver gonna say this week, or he gonna get censored by HBO as well?
Depends on whether or not HBO is seeing continually declining numbers of viewership. CBS, NBC, ABC those are all dying networks and they'll do anything to stay on air.
This is what I think too!
These are the death knells of dying industry, like Howard Stern leaving terrestrial radio in 2004, which was ultimately the result of the Super Bowl Halftime show when Janet Jackson exposed her nipple.
It’s literally the same crap. Something happens that people don’t like, and a failing media industry tries to stay relevant by clamping down, losing their talent in the process.
Back then it was shock jocks on terrestrial radio, now it’s late night and “cable” tv.
ABC and CBS didn’t get bought recently because they’re doing well, you know?
Sources: Howard Stern’s Wikipedia page, the “nipplegate” Wikipedia page, and having too much energy this morning.
Is your country great again? Was so difficult to vote for her instead to avoid this fascistic nightmare, wasn't it?
Democrats bear almost as much blame for nominating "lesser-evil" candidates over someone who is actually good.
Donald Trump won because Bernie lost, twice.
He just stole it from Reagan's campaign.
You deserve it for refusing to vote for a viable candidate. You don't get to blame people who rejected a genocidal candidate, blame those who called genocide lesser evil.
Maybe when everyone is on the same page about rejecting evil, something will change. But no, you'll downvote and feel self righteous about it as you cheerlead for another fascist (Newsom).
Have you been following the situation in Gaza? The idea that Trump was ever the "lesser evil" was always a dangerous delusion - especially when the alternative was so clear.
The U.S. two-party system leaves little room for ambiguity: if you didn’t vote for Harris, you effectively enabled Trump. Now, the world has to grapple with the consequences -rising far-right movements, rollbacks on LGBTQIA+ rights, the gutting of climate policies, and a surge in anti-immigrant rhetoric.
This isn’t about partisan bickering; it’s about accountability. The choice was straightforward, and the fallout is global. How do you justify looking away when the stakes were this high?
ABC what a bunch of fuckin' spineless wimps.
It's a business. Never expect anything but pragmatic business decisions from them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_capitalism
Authoritarian capitalism, or illiberal capitalism, is an economic system in which a capitalist market economy exists alongside an authoritarian government. Related to and overlapping with state capitalism, a system in which the state undertakes commercial activity, authoritarian capitalism combines private property and the functioning of market forces with restrictions on dissent, complete lack of freedom of speech or significant limits on it, and either a lack of elections or an electoral system with a single dominant political party.
Next stop, elimination of the Democratic party.
Yeah you're right.
Y'all! This isn't ABC - this is conservative Sinclair and Nexstar Media Group!
@Immarsano@lemmynsfw.com nailed this one by reading the article.
Nexstar Media Group forced ABC's hand on this by saying they would run non-ABC programming on all their local TV stations they own. They're in the process of getting FCC approval for a $6 billion deal that would give them ownership of 265 local TV stations in 44 states.
Meanwhile, Sinclair Media, which also owns tons of local TV stations, isn't letting Kimmel's rerun on Friday be broadcast anyway, instead showing a CK tribute show. So they were likely also going to do the same to ABC and just hadn't said anything publicly because they don't need deal approved right now.
This is the media version of Red-Stating, where state legislatures were slowly turned by the GOP which gave them the power to Gerrymander Dem-held House districts away and turn them red in 2021. How do you stop a global juggernaut liberal media company? You marginalize them by buying up all the local affiliates and stations that still make up a large part of their market. You buy up everything that sits in between the viewer and the media itself. Once the media company withers, you shove in your own programming as gaps open up.
Well, it’s ABC who don’t want to stand up to it
Because micky mouse doesn’t give a fuck about anyone except the dollar.
of course it's also ABC. ABC could have said "lol get fucked" but they bent the knee. And keep in mind ABC is owned by Disney who owns ESPN who JUST made a deal with notorious right-wing "trump buddy, buddy" company TKO to nickle and dime people to watch WWE shows. TKO the same company that is going to put on a UFC event on the damn White House lawn. TKO the same company that decided to cancel Wrestlemania in New Orleans in favor of take MORE blood money from Saudi Arabia and having it there instead.
They all connect with each other so saying one company isn't to blame and another one is, is bullshit and you know it. ABC is as much to blame as Sinclair. At the end of the day they all bow to dear leader.
Right? The number of calls Sinclair would have got when people can't watch sports on ABC would have been insane.
So I did the next thing and cancelled Hulu live with ESPN and Disney plus.
ESPN plus might be a bit hard, my daughter loves college volleyball and it's the only one that offers tons of matches to watch
Take 1 or 2 big steps back here.
Conservatives have unlocked a massive weapon to control huge swaths of media and data transmission, including cable companies who still control a lot of internet infrastructure. Worrying about ABC is immaterial when compared to the fact that foundational telecommunications systems are under their control and they just learned they can wield that power with impunity to change what they see carried over those systems.
Or, hey, you know what, fine, you're right - Disney bad, cancel Hulu for 2 months and I'm sure it'll all work itself out.
There's a word for what is happening: Gleichschaltung
The Germans really do have a fucking word for everything, don’t they?
I mean... In this context it is easy for, since we seen this one through already.
We do, because it's very easy to construct new and rather specific nouns in the German language.
The famous "Schadenfreude" is nothing else but a combination of "Schaden" (damage) and "Freude" (joy).
Wanna mildly insult someone...
There are countless synonyms like that, it even used to be some kind of trend inventing new ones.
In short, I think we Germans are expert "Wortneuschöpfer" (creators of new words).
they have experience in these matters.
Yeah, but they just stitch words together by skipping the space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungs%C3%BCberwachungsaufgaben%C3%BCbertragungsgesetz
Watch the monologue before viewing it becomes a crime. He didn’t even make fun of Saint Charlie.
He does make fun of Lord Trump though. Which, as we all know, is illegal.
President McDonald's.
Cancel Disney+, Hulu, ESPN and your live streaming TV/cable sub if you have one.
https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-cancel
https://help.hulu.com/article/hulu-cancel-hulu-subscription
https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/40377589107476-How-do-I-cancel-my-ESPN-subscription
Damn it! Now I regret pirating everything!
Okay so ABC and any affiliated brand needs to get fucked.
Anyone who views any of their shit in a non-pirate capacity or pays for their services needs to be mocked and shamed as a Nazi collaborator. As does anyone who works for them without doing sabotage.
That's not to say you need to stop watching your favorite shows! Hit up /c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com and save some money during lean times.
They only respond to pressure form the state or from the market. The state just pressured them to do it, so if the market doesn't pressure them otherwise, that's it. What are chances the too big to fail corporation can be pressured from the market?
The monologue in question was linked in an earlier post:
There is NOTHING malicious about that. Trump is a piss baby and these media outlets are licking his boss
Shortly before ABC announced the suspension, Nexstar, an owner of ABC affiliate stations around the country, said that it would pre-empt Mr. Kimmel’s program “for the foreseeable future” because of his remarks.
Any creative ideas to turn cancel culture against these removedass media companies & their dickhead affiliates? It needs to make the impact on their pocketbook to comply with fascism higher than the cost to oppose.
Yo ho, yo ho
once they lose money from viewership or subscription, they know where it hurts. and kimmel might just sue them for discrimination.
This is actually the key point. This isn't just ABC making this decision, this is the Texas-based Nexstar Media Group leveraging their infrastructure ownership to force ABC's hand.
This company is doing what Sinclair does, buying up local television channels in order to push their agenda.
Oh....oh hey look at that...what a funny coincidence! It looks like Nexstar is looking to do a $6 Billion acquisition that would ONLY be possible if this administration loosens FCC regulations about media ownership. This company would own 80% of local TV channels in the US, up from a previous limit of 39%.
Support your local public media stations. It’s going to be the only independent channel for many regions in the country soon enough.
This is your reminder that Disney owns ABC. Christofacist will not be any stretch for them, and they have a king background in war propaganda films.
Damn, but honestly I can't boycott Disney any more than I already have.
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The setup for sonarr would be great. I use torrents, and can never seem to get past the indexing step.
For sonarr I just followed the wiki honestly for getting it set up.
What exactly are you referring to with the indexing step? Do you mean setting up a indexer so sonarr can search for torrents?
We all grew up with free speech. That's what the USA has always been about. Now you have an admin who threatens and bullies taxpayers.
We all grew up with free speech.
Tell that to any Black American over the age of 65.
The USA was a political experiment started solely by white, landowning, 20-something slavers for the express intent of genociding as many Native Americans as possible. It's time for us to stop trying to "reclaim patriotism" and realize the American poltical experiment has devolved into fascism and must be dismantled.
The thing that is kind of weird for non-Americans to understand is the way so many Americans seem to fetishise patriotism. Greatest country in the world! Freedom! Free speech! etc. We've all seen it all over social media for fuckin decades. And the praise for the military defending our freedoms! Seriously, when was the last time the US military was involved in a war that was actually in defense of America? It's been a fair fuckin while.
Most of us have been conscious that there were probably a lot of Americans who didn't feel the same way, especially those who weren't white, straight, male, etc. All that stuff they were so proud of was the emperor's new clothes all along.
For the sake of all the many decent people in America, and the rest of the world, I hope you guys can get a fuckin grip.
Ok but you do see how 65 is getting up there in age, right? Like I'm sure there's a few people here above that, and OP should've accounted for that in their statement. But the vast majority of us have in fact grown up in the last 65 years where freedom of speech in the usa has been well and truly absolute.
The USA was a political experiment started solely by white, landowning, 20-something slavers for the express intent of genociding as many Native Americans as possible.
People over a hundred years dead do not define the present of a country. Hell, look at Germany. Sure they have a small nazi party but the nazis were only 80 years ago and aren't defining their present reality..
The political experiment line is just strange, seriously.
I like you say it started with the intent of genocide and now has "devolved" into something worst.
Edgy.
Free speech ,free bullit its all tesame in murica
Any one that is incensed like I am should go to the official page for abc and Disney and flood them with negative reviews and emails to their contact page. Let your voices be heard.
people should be cancelling paramount and disney+ subscription, make them hurt where it matters the wallet. currently Paramount is being kept on life support because they are still producing nutrek shows for the moment.
Now Jimmy can go NSFW on a different medium
BOYCOTT ABC!! And send angry letters to cowardly execs who did this!!
people still watch network TV? That's that thing where they force to to watch something at a set time, then play ads?
I grew up with it. It was the R word. Oh, I grew up with that too.
Point of order. ABC is owned by Disney. Make of that what you will.
Everything makes sense now. Attached: Mickey marching with his swastica armband
Wow, this is great.
Do you have any source that says this is actually from Disney because you've posted this in a few different subs now and have never provided one.
This is what Fascists do, everyone should be calling this government fascist at every opportunity
These pathetic MAGAts are such snowflakes.
#cancelculture
Got, ABC is Nazi media. Understood
Fuck Disney.
The first amendment is just a suggestion now.
And so I have now cancelled Disney +. What a bunch of cowards. Over such a minor comment directed at Trump.
Imagine one of the stars of The Man Show being considered opposition to one of the most misogynistic administrations in our recent history.
This is madness!
My Disney+ and Hulu subs just got pulled "indefinitely".
What was said? Can't open the link.
Something along the lines of how MAGA is doing everything they can to show it was a liberal that did it, when we all know it's MAGA.
(I know that Kimmel may be wrong, I'm just reporting what he said.) I'm pretty sure that's the line that did it.
Charlie who?
the most shocking part of the news about his death was his age. how was this motherfucker not at least 46 years old
They came for the liberals first and i didn't speak up because every time you scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds and every time you scratch a fascist a liberal speaks out decrying violence.
Coming soon: The Charlie Kirk Show! What- Too late? :-( #ripcharliekirk
Shame, but Kimmel’s show was getting repetitive lately