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Bernie Sanders calls war in Gaza a "genocide"

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Fucking finally. Dammit Bernie. You already severed my heart strings for you. You can’t come back. But, keep saying it! Keep speaking the truth. Better late than never.
- 🙄
  There is a big narrative that loves to pick off the left-est of the left people in the US government, and come up with various bullshit reasons to criticize them.
  You'll never hear this kind of argument applied anywhere else. Like, if Beto O'Rourke said Gaza was a genocide, you wouldn't see all these Lemmy comments saying "TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH YOU PIECE OF SHIT" or whatever. When that handful of countries said they wouldn't do sporting events with Israel, I didn't see anyone commenting "YEAH WHERE WAS THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMES CHARGES" or anything like that. The extensive nitpicking is only aimed at people like AOC and Bernie who are significant leftist voices in government.
  If you want to know what Bernie's been actually saying about Gaza, this is it:
  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uVDPXtnTXUw
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFhcSlrJcAU
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dd4cg-t8j8
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_AWLQ4gk4
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBZreokpA_s
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRrHfsqg990
  And so on. He's been doing what most of Lemmy would like to see someone in the US Congress doing: Yelling about Israel, what a fucking horror it is, and trying to stop US military aid. This extensive nailbiting about him calling it "ethnic cleansing" instead of "genocide" is just going to get smoothly replaced by these users with some other reason to nailbite about him, definitely not with any enthusiasm or support for him. I guarantee it.
  
  Unfortunately, my standard is set pretty high especially for someone like Bernie who I really had on a pedestal. Things sound different when you have family on the ground. That being said I appreciate your post and sharing this information. I think the expectation for Bernie is set higher than others because he was meant to be “our guy”, same with AOC, so any falter feels 10x bigger than from those we already expect it from.
  
  various bullshit reasons to criticize them.
  Support for genocide is not a 'bullshit' reason to critisice someone.
  Like, if Beto O’Rourke said Gaza was a genocide, you wouldn’t see all these Lemmy comments saying “TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH YOU PIECE OF SHIT” or whatever.
  You absolutely would. But it's an verifiable counter-factual anyway, because Beto hasn't said that.
  I didn’t see anyone commenting “YEAH WHERE WAS THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMES CHARGES” or anything like that.
  I fucking did.
  If you want to know what Bernie’s been actually saying about Gaza, this is it:
  I know damn well what he's been saying, and it has disgusted me. He literally included outright lies about how many people were killed on October 7th in the statement where he called Gaza a genocide
  Yelling about Israel
  Mostly he's been doing his best to blame Netanyhu alone and let Israel off the hook, he has also always made sure to condemn Hamas and October 7th more strongly than the Israel's genocide.
  get smoothly replaced by these users with some other reason to nailbite about him, definitely not with any enthusiasm or support for him. I guarantee it.
  Liberals have no principles and operate purely out of political convenience, as such, they can't imagine people actually sincerely holding a firm position. "leftists are criticizing Bernie for his zionism, even though he would make a useful political ally? That doesn't make sense, they must be lying about their actual beliefs."

Better late than never ig...
- tell that to the estimated one third of gaza that's dead

Finally, now he should back up sanctions on israel and bds too
- don't hold your breath.

So does this mean he's gonna stop with the "Israel has a right to defend itself" bullshit? I swear if I hear him say that again I'm gonna vomit.

Just had to see if the Democratic establishment could sweep it under the rug first.
It's really disappointing to learn almost every progressive voice in the US is so domesticated that they are effectively controlled opposition.

Too little, too late. I will never forgive him.
- ehh... he is jewish i don't ride him too hard to being wishy washy
  AOC on the other hand... unforgivable.
  
  That, that comment is anti-semitic.
  are jews naturally prone to genocide?
  As a jew, I do hate when I wake up and commit a genocide.
  No, he fucked up, like all the liberals in the democratic party. they all decided that AIPAC bribes are more important than countless childrens lives.
  they are all complicit of genocide.
  Ted Bundy doesn't deserve a pardon if he calls himself a bad parson after all the murders.
  
  His Jewish background and knowledge of the Holocaust makes this far worse. Bernie shall not be forgiven for this.

So he now wants to send interceptors so people cannot retaliate against genocide?
Also he is still doing the both sides thing. This is what a right winger should sound like. Hesitantly conceding. Not the "leader of progressives".

Oh, so he's done complaining about Kamala now?
- lol... let it go... she is done

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