Hmm this "unisex" bathroom seems biased...
Hmm this "unisex" bathroom seems biased...
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People of the penile persuasion can sit while peeing. It is very easy to do.
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Why though.
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Because splashback.
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- Cleaner for your penis: sitting down eliminates the last drops remaining that are common when standing up
- Cleaner for the bathroom: zero risk foreskin messing up your aim and having pee hit areas that don't get washed by the flush
- Better urine elimination for men that have prostate issues or lower urinary tract symptoms. I don't, but it's a factor
- More chill to sit down and check your phone while in the bathroom
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Just cause it's easy doesn't mean you should.
Also, it's not easier than standing.
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My dignity refuses to piss sitting down !
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If you properly close a toilet seat/lid, everyone has to open it before using it, I don't see what the big deal is
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Also, if it's not a weird toilet seat that doesn't have a lid, you should be putting it down to reduce the number of particles that get into the air...
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I'm a woman and will leave the seat up at work (not at home)
We have unisex toilets and truck drivers use them - they regularly wee all over the toilet seats if left down :(
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if there is a lid - always down
if there is no lid - always up
it is the safest, cleanest, fairest option
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we just leave it down at home. we talked about it one day and everyone with male excretory parts just wants to get off their feet. only time the seat lifts is for cleaning.
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I've thought of this so many times. I'm fact, I've thought about a spring-loaded seat hinge that raises the seat unless there's a person upon it. If the seat is always up, it is much less likely to be urinated upon. It takes the work completely out of the hands of the user.
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But like, if men pee with the seat up, but both men and women poop with the seat down, then statistically the seat is already down more than half of the time. Now if we enforce a policy like this, that would mean more than half of the times someone walks in and needs the seat to be down is in luck, but the rest has to do double the "work". And if someone goes in after someone who would have otherwise left the seat up, they too do double the work, so the seat changes position 4 times instead of once. I think it's much more "just" to simply change the seat whenever you need it and sometimes you will even find it in the position you need it in.
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yeah some people like to fall in
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I poo standing up. You can't force me.
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Yeah it's a silly sign and they should relax.
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I once jokingly mentioned to my wife that leaving the seat up is just as convenient for me as leaving it down is for her. To which she pointed out that, of the four different permutations of toilet use between us, 3/4 require the seat to be down, so all in all, it makes sense to leave the seat down.
And dammit, I had to marry a logical autistic, didn't I?
So now I always (try to remember to) leave the seat down.
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I tend to sit down to pee most times (at home), so that ratio is even higher for us..
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At home both of those are invalid. You close the lid before you flush so you don't spread particles everywhere (among many other benefits)
Everyone opens the lid/seat to the desired level. Everyone does their business. Everyone closes the lid. Everyone flushes and washes their hands.
True gender equality!
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This is the correct answer
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autistic women are the best
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That's just basic math. +Sit the fuck down when pissing at home. Who is paying you to stand while taking a piss when you could sit down?
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Laziness
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My OnlyFans subscribers. I'm StandingStreamer.
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I mean, it'll be less than 3/4 if you always stand to pee, because people pee more often than they poop (of they hydrate sufficiently and there's no health issue). But it'll still definitely be over half, so the result is the same.
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Sit to pee for all. Solves all problems.
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I've been to men's restroom before. I wouldn't sit on that unless extremely necessary. Even then, I'd wipe that ship clean and cover it in toilet paper first
I do wonder if they all sat whether that'd solve it, though. That is, if it'd be cleaner. Or maybe they don't need to sit to keep it clean. Idk
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I had a cat that trained me to sit down to pee.
The only time I could ever get her to purr was when when I was sat on the toilet. So, of course, I began sitting down to pee in order to maximise her purring and fusses. And it kinda stuck.
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nooooope not putting my cheeks on that unless necessary
seat up, squat a bit, and aim to reduce splash. wipe when done no matter what it looks like
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Leave the seat down so when you flush you won't inhale your poop and pee.
Cmon it's not hard.
Edit: and lid.
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I think just being an organism with an anus leads to higher levels of poop exposure than whatever minuscule amount of particulate matter that manages to aerosolize from an unlided flush
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Yes, but I already have all the diseases that I have. I don't need to add all the diseases everyone else has too, or vice versa.
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Also, no way, leave the seat as is, it is the responsibility of every user to adjust the seat to their current need.
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You mean the lid infested of the seat?
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If you raise it, put it back down when you're done. If you put it down, put it back up when you're done. That seems fair.
Alternatively, if there's a lid, close the lid when you're done. Then everyone is equally "inconvenienced".
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In my house, the toilet seat and lid are down when not in use. Because I have a cat and she's the kind of idiot that will jump into the toilet and then track toilet water into my bed.
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I try to do the same. My cat can get a little carried away with his toys and sometimes they'll get swatted into the toilet
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Biased how. Do the math. Half of us sit down to pee, all of us sit down to shit.
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Also, as someone with male plumbing, we can also sit down to pee. So everyone can sit to pee, and half of us can't.
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Biased meaning only men have to do any work, women never have to (if it's left down always)
True neutral would be last used position.
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It's also easier to slam it down, than bend and lift it up.
And peeing is more frequent when there aren't urinals.
So everytime a pissstander arrives to a raised seat, it's a saving of efforts
But of course, this avoid the worst problem of all.
Having to remember to do one extra thing after you're done and ready to leave
That last one is probably THE biggest asshle of the entire discussion.
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I never understood the whole "you left the toilet seat up" complaint. Never been an issue in my family but have heard "he never puts the seat down" all the time. Is it that much effort to put the toilet seat down when you need to go?
Edit: Always close the toilet seat cover, not just lowering the toilet seat. This is for both men and women.
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its gross, bruh.
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I agree which is why I put the lid down but I'm asking about the toilet seat.
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I put the lid down, don't want toilet water splashing all over the place when you flush.
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I put the lid down, too. But only so that the cat doesn't drink from it.
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I put the lid up, so I don't have to raise the lid next time I'm there to piss, which is what I do the most often there.
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Soft close toilet seats should be standard equipment.
Then putting the lid down is a matter of a single light push.
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If men have to put down women have to lift up. Morality is when the same logic is applied to the other side. Otherwise your being sexist and prejudice.
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Did you know this isn't a discussion at all in most of the world? People do whatever and no one is bothered by it. I only ever see this in American media.
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It's not a discussion I've ever seen Americans have IRL, only in sitcoms.
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This is in Canada, so close enough.
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Can people do what they need to do without anybody policing them? Seat up or down who cares?
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Not according to everybody aggressively commenting here!
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My brother used to say, if i have to lift it up why shouldn't my wife have to put it down?
I see his point but, i close the lid to flush so i don't have to brush my teeth with a pissy shit particle covered toothbrush.
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I dunno if you'd want to know (or maybe you know, already) but it only helps some with bacteria, not viruses: https://www.everydayhealth.com/health-home/should-you-flush-with-the-toilet-seat-up-or-down.
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If this was a male-only bathroom I'd still totally agree with the content of the sign.
If you want to pee standing, use the urinal. I, as a man, don't enjoy sitting in some other person's pee either.
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Toilet seats are fully operational by anyone, (it's true I checked). How about instead of trying to police everyone you just put it up or down yourself and stfu?
Seeing this sign would ensure I go out of my way to leave it up.
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I'm a gentleman and so I lowered the seat as my hosts requested. But I also took a picture because it's funny and weirdly presumptuous.
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Manchild take
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Thats a spicy take. You know the seat being down is more than convenience, right? It's extremely unhygienic to flush an open toilet let alone the dangers of small children falling in. I recognize a public space is less likely to have a child small enough and unattended to worry significantly about.
We live in a society and all that. Personal responsibility only works if you err on the side of caution. If there is a default setting to a toilet seat and cover it would be down and closed. Otherwise, why put one on at all.
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The seat is not what closes a toilet. That's the lid and it's not even mentioned on the sign.
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This issue always baffles me.
The amazing thing about owning a penis is that I can still pee sitting down and there's never any drama. Have to poop? Don't even have to move! Have to fart? Go for it! Not farting in your underwear makes them smell fresher for longer, anyway.
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Not farting in your underwear makes them smell fresher for longer, anyway.
Bro wtf? I know that was a casual one liner... but it leaves sooo many unanswered questions!
/s
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This is all personal preference. There is no issue to discuss here.
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No no no. In public restrooms better to leave the seat up so that when people pee standing up the toilet water droplets don't get on the seat.
I pee standing up in public and know the mess it can cause.
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This assumes that men ever lift the seat. I’d prefer it be left up so that there is at least a chance I can sit on a dry, piss-free seat. Lowering a seat is preferable to the alternative.
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I don't really understand what is the end goal here. It isn't minimising the amount of total work done, because for this optimal strategy would be just leaving the seat in whatever position it was used. Funnily enough, amount of times it needs to be put up is exactly the same it needs to be put down in absolute terms, but considering the "up" group is smaller than "down group", their perceived amount of times position should be changed is higher than the same for the opposite group. I. e. in group of one "up" and 9 "downs", "ups" need to change position of lid with 90% probability, and for every "down" it's only 10%. Huh. Of course overall it equalizes: 1×0.9=9×0.1.
Or is it some kind of "welcomeness"? Like, leaving the lid in the most probable expected position (which for equal gender usage would be "sitting" because people sometimes poop, usually not while standing; and because penis people sometimes pee while sitting (me often, but usually at home, not in public)).
Or is it something else?
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I've heard of someone who's mother died cuz they left the seat down and she just got stuck
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Seriously? It’s sexism. Women shouldn’t be expected to touch filthy things.
Not my belief, but it’s the basis of the logic.
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I don't know either. There really isn't a universally agreed upon standard for how to leave a toilet seat. Even with a sign dictating the expected behaviour, it's not a guarantee. It's completely illogical to expect a toilet seat to have been left in any specific state, and therefore the onus is entirely on the next person to set it how they want before using it. This is already how it works. It takes 1 second. I don't know who is complaining about it.
Although, on second thought, the only people who would ever have to move the seat in a seat-down world are those who want to pee standing up, and there might be some value in very gently discouraging that behaviour in a public restroom. Not sure if that's the goal here, but it's a theory.
Unless there's a lid. Close the damn lid!
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Very silly post. Reactionary gender war nonsense. Everyone can and does and should sit down, that's why it's unisex. It's not that complicated.
There's better things to hitch your identity and ego to than the way your dad told you to piss.
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Or it was just a lighthearted joke...
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Just as lighthearted as the hundreds of 'I hate my wife' boomer jokes. Its simply bad taste.
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ok boss
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So, like, peeing into a toilet with the seat down, 100% keeps those tiny little splashes from hitting the tops my bare feet at home. So, when I pee in public toilets, I keep the seat down, to keep the urine off my shoes. I do wipe the seat if I miss, and I also spray if there is disinfectant. But I hear the smart girls squat atop the seat anyway.
Really, places where you don't have a urinal are sub optimal.
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Is peeing standing up something I'm just too intersex to understand? Like even before bottom surgery it was just more easy and convenient to sit down for it
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How is having to pull your pants and underwear down and sit down easier and more convenient than just unzipping your fly and peeing standing up?
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You're not using the equipment to its full potential!
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I always put it down.
Because women love to pick fights over the smallest things./s
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I close it entirely. That way everyone has to open the lid.
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Chaotic neutral spotted
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theres also realistic ones for trans men, but I don't wanna risk getting in trouble
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If you have to sit and you have to go immediately you appreciate those that were considerate enough to engage in this simple act of decency.
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I'm the only one that uses my own toilet, this makes no difference when having to sit.
It would be super annoying to raise and lower the sit every single time that I piss...-
if you are the only person that uses it then it is not unisex.
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I wonder if signs like these are effective. Unless you are monitoring and handing out fines as guests leave, they are just gonna do whatever is their habit.
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I listened to it, even though I found it funny.
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up. down makes me uncomfortable. Schrodinger's toilet seat.
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Number 1 Number 2 ♂ up down ♀ down down 3/4 of these are down, so it seems to me like the etiquette should be to leave it down.
(Conflict of interest disclaimer: am a woman.)
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Lid up -> cats drink toilet water
Lid down -> no toilet-face cats
(Seat down because lid is down)
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Be careful what you wish for.
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As someone with common sense and a little bit of decency: complaining about being asked to leave the toilet seat down when it benefits everybody is ridiculous
Unless you like sitting on the ceramic with no seat, I guess.
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You like sitting on someone's urine?
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Considering how it's after use, there would be no urine
You lift it up to use it and set it back down afterwards
Edit: to clarify, I am male and stand to pee. I lift the toilet seat and lower it when I'm done.
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Peak boomer humor. Congrats!
Put the seat and the lid down before flushing.
I just put the lid down but I still leave the seat up when flushing.
That's a weird loo. :)
There's a University of Cork study showing that putting the lid down aerosolises more material so spreads bacteria etc. over the whole room, whereas having the lid open produces a smaller number of larger droplets that nearly all just fall straight back into the toilet. The lid is not sealing the toilet and preventing the need to clean the bathroom.
Can you link that study please?
I think I did not understand your comment. Isn’t it the other way around?