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Xi and Putin overheard talking about organ transplants and immortality

In short:

A live-stream broadcast of China's military parade has captured Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin discussing biotechnology's potential to extend life.

An interpreter translating Mr Putin can be heard saying in Mandarin that human organ transplants could let "us live younger and younger, and perhaps even achieve immortality".

Mr Xi responded that it may be possible for people to live to 150 years this century.

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  • Apart from the fact that your brain ages too and it's 100% irreplaceable, the main issue with turning yourself into the human Ship of Theseus is that you're going to be on immunosuppressant drugs forever.

    I guess if you were a monster you could raise clones of yourself to adulthood and then murder them for their body parts. This doesn't solve the problem of some parts not being reasonably replaceable, but it could protect you from some organ failures.

    • There are current studies about growing entire organs in a lab environment using 3D printed scaffolding and stem cells harvested from the patient, so the final product is 100% compatible and eliminates the need for immunosuppressants.

      Still a few decades out for human testing imo but they'd be the first in line.

      If we figure that out, artificial blood (which is already making good progress) and finally a way to regenerate brain cells without causing massive brain tumors we can extend life considerably, probably closer to 200 years on extreme cases.

      Or, at least, making it to 110 while still having a good quality of life, basically making 100 the new 60.

      • Lol, lmfao

        They can't even give us a relatively nontoxic living environment and adaptive and responsive nutrition plans

        Not to mention there has NEVER been a patient who has had MULTIPLE 3D printed organ transplants, let alone continuous transplants PRN (the suture sites are going to be dissolving scar tissue). And that 3D printed organs are extremely complicated especially depending on which one is being built, with their own cellular memory including circadian rhythm and local homeostasis.

        Not to mention that merely transplanting an organ does not mean the patient will have adequate neurochemicals or enzymes or receptors to carry out the processes needed to support these organs, regardless of supplementation

        Like certain conditions, at end of life, oppose each other especially in treatment. Eg congestive heart failure, pulmonary edema, and kidney failure all interfere and interact with each other. Assuming you could successfully perform a lung, heart, and kidney transplant in a geriatric patient, whose to say their veings, connective tissue, ureters, etc won't prolapse or blow out from all the pressure and new stressers?

        This shit isn't as easy as they want to claim (maybe they want to taunt Trump with immortality), but if they want to be the guinea pigs for it, let them ig - that's the most ethical thing they could do with this, is experiment on themselves and take the consequences.

    • I think if ALL, literally ALL of your other organs were functioning great, then it is unlikely your brain will deterioriate by itself randomly. Your body is constantly repairing itself, that's why we are able to live so long.

      But like, are they REALLY going to transplant things like the thymus? Can they even do that? Adrenal glands, parathyroid glands, thyroid, kidneys, livers, pancreas - idk man, I do not see these people getting all these organs replaced. That is an INSANE bodily experiment that has never truly been tested, let alone with lab grown organs (as Xi or Putin suggested), let alone in elderly and delicate subjects. We can't even pull off natural looking facelifts in most subjects.

      Adding in organs with different ages and donors also means they also may have increased loads on their remaining old aged organs too. Everything works together and donor organs can have a different circadian rhythm, let alone different genes which means different reactions to stimuli. Not to mention currently the most likely situation for organ transplant would be gene editing animal organs - again, experimental and never done on multiple organs. https://hms.harvard.edu/news/first-genetically-edited-pig-kidney-transplanted-human

      Like managing multiple organ rejections in a 90yr old seeking immortality sounds like a joke of a case for any health care provider.

      But please, someone convince both those men to get multiple organs transplanted ASAP

    • Ever read House of the Scorpion? It predicted this exact situation yeaaaaars ago, good read too

    • Apart from the fact that your brain ages too and it’s 100% irreplaceable

      Braincells are irreplaceable (barring some experimental stem cell work) but the networks between those brain cells keep growing and intertwining. It's the network between the cells that defines your mental aptitude. Plenty of stories about people with severe brain damage who still continue to function comparatively normally after a period of recovery and rehabilitation. The human brain is remarkably plastic.

      I guess if you were a monster you could raise clones of yourself to adulthood and then murder them for their body parts.

      Even that isn't strictly practical. The failure rate on cloning is enormous. What's legit more monstrous than killing someone for organs is producing all of the failed clones necessary to land on a copy that's viable.

      Dolly the Sheep was a "successful" clone, and even it didn't live a particularly long or happy life, being euthanized at half the normal age of a domesticated sheep of her breed due to arthritis and lung disease.

      No doubt someone is out there doing human cloning illegally. But I would not bank on it as a viable alternative to simply getting bumped up the organ donor list the old fashioned way.

  • us as in literally "the two of us". fucking hell, die already and stop leeching

  • We need to forcefully redistribute all excess wealth and power.

    These delusional sycophants are going to be the death of our species.

  • LOL whatever. Them, plus Trunp, plus all billionaires are human and will all die one day. No amount of organ transplants, cryogenic freezing or shipping embryos to Mars will ever change that.

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