4d ago

Trump orders Hegseth to form National Guard unit in each state to combat crime, protests

www.stripes.com Trump orders Hegseth to form National Guard unit in each state to combat crime, protests

President Donald Trump ordered the National Guard in each state to create a quick-response force to quell protests and deter crime.

CMV: This is the gun grab.

Step 1: Create State Militas run by federal deputies

Step 2: revisit Heller, etc. and stress well run milita part.

Step 3: confiscate all non milita weapons.

Step 4: burn Constitution?

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I have a great idea for a name, too. They can call them Guard Emplacements Suppressing Tyranny And Protecting Order.
- The Gestapo was the secret police. Hitlers private paramilitary organization was the SA and later the SS. So this development is more like setting up the SS. Especially if you then fold in ICE to run the camps.
- Or maybe the Super Service
- I was thinking Emplacement Protection Services for Tyranny Everywhere In the Nation
  
  Epsfteitn?
- Cool acronym, bro.

Ok then. This sounds exactly like the stuff all you Second Amendment aficionados have been warning about my entire life. I assume that you’re all prepping, and gearing up to take out these federal goons when they show up in your town. Right? I mean, if this isn’t it, then you’ve just been cosplaying that ‘don’t tread on me’ bravado this whole time. Time to put up.
- They'll never think about it like that. Even though Ruby Ridge happened under Bush 41, the Weavers are all insane about Democrats. Even though most of them would suggest 9/11 was an Inside Job to pass the Patriot Act, under Bush 43, it was all Obama to blame for anything bad. Even though Trump banned bump stocks, it's the Dems that love gun control (which they rarely ever actually pass). Even though James Brady was Reagan's press secretary, the Brady Bill passed under Clinton right after Waco happened and the ATF made taking guns a national obsession with those people.
  
  And immediately after Ruby Ridge, Waco happened. Trigger happy feds need prison. Lying cops need lead to the head.
- Motherfucker the second amendment doesn’t only apply to “aficionados”, but all citizens. Where were you when they banned the most effective guns with which to resist tyranny?
  So that means you’re stepping up too, right? You didn’t just ask me to go die alone for you because you couldn’t be bothered and maybe don’t like guns to begin with, right? You realize that there’s a difference between one guy with a gun and forty guys with guns, RIGHT?
  Google Cliven Bundy or MFAC for admittedly unfavorable but effective examples of this, and then feel free to fuck off after that.
  Or were you talking to the more numerous MAGA gun nuts who can’t wait to goose step over and kiss some boots and who obviously won’t be lifting a finger to stop any of this?
  I hate your shitty, smug, and typical response because this shit is serious and you’re a fucking joke.
  
  doing everything you can to combat the unhinged, gun-toting, lunatic stereotype, huh?
  
  Bro chill. They were talking direct to all the people who scream that they need guns after the latest school shooting prompts people to talk about gun control. All the people who have guns “for self defense” because they believe that stealing a TV deserves the death penalty. All the people who claim that guns are important to stand up to tyranny while they vote for conservatives time after time.
  You’re taking this to such a personal level and we’re [probably] not even talking about you.
  
  The bundys were trying to pasture cattle whithout paying for it. Is that the tyranny they were fighting?
  The only joke here is the defense of the bundys.
  
  Sounds like you're sitting this one out, then?
  
  Doesn't really sound like you'll join a well-regulated militia now or anytime soon.
  
  So what's the most effective fun? And what century are you in if you think having guns is going to be much help when they just call in a drone strike.
  
  Google Cliven Bundy or MFAC for admittedly unfavorable but effective examples of this, and then feel free to fuck off after that.
  That was before drones.
  You should be learning from Hamas if you actually want to stand a chance in the modern world.

What fucking crime?
- Knowing how Science works is now a death penalty crime.
- They've been trying to spin literally any protests or even just token resistance as criminal, and rural voters, by and large, absolutely believe that cities are hives of crime and iniquity.
  
  It’s not just that: I have a brother who’s not even that conservative but seems to sincerely believe the Gaza protests on college campuses are terrorism and Trump is justified in cutting medical research associated with those colleges
  
  It's not just rural voters. I was just at a dentist apt in suburban Washington and the hygienist was talking about how her son just moved away from California and that she was glad he was getting away because of "how bad the crime has gotten in California".
  
  I expect sooner or later, there will be a big massacre where protestors are shot down. Surprised it hasn't happened yet
- Trump is the most dangerous criminal in the states. If he really wanted to clean up crime, he'd turn himself in.
- Human Trafficking and Child Rape.
  
  Yes, but those are crimes that Taco and his affiliates are accused of. What crimes are they supposedly combating? If they want to drastically reduce crime, Taco should be arrested and thrown in prison, along with most of his staff, administration, and his supporters.

Well... It's not the first time the National Guard gunned down protesters. No one was ever held responsible for Kent State murders, and Kent State was not the only college that saw National Guard violence. 60 years ago, and in that time, no laws were changed to prevent it from happening again.
- not to mention the Ludlow Massacre
- Lol wut. That's why they were created. To gun down strikers and protect companies.
  
  Ah yes, protect the great american companies of the 17th century

Director Hegseth, execute order 47
- Then he proceeds to get hammered and accidentally add a dick pic on the official zoom slideshow presentation

Why? It doesn’t work. They’re there in DC and they still haven’t beat the shit out of Trump and imprisoned him.
- Shouldn't take much longer tbh

Sorry for the lecture but...
This is the important shit. Please don't get distracted. They are preparing for the next elections. They won't go willingly.

There are 109,000 cities & town in the US. You are going to create a second 'police' department run by the Federal government (just like Russia has). That is a huge financial undertaking.
- That is a huge financial undertaking.
  Congress gave ICE $75 billion over four years, approximately $18.7 billion each year because daddy Trump demanded it. Added to the $10 billion Congress already appropriated ICE for fiscal year 2025 in March, ICE now has $28.7 billion at its disposal this year. ICE alone now has more budgeted than the entire Department of Justice.
  
  WTF - this is as an out sider
- “Trump thinks cops are bad at their job” should be the headline going forward.
  
  That would be burying the lede
- They can afford it. After all there are only two entries on the Republican federal budget: 1. grifting money. 2. money to the paramilitary to foment and subsequently suppress dissent.
- They're run by the States.
  
  That's not how the Russian police works. They will be a Federal police department at the mercy of the orange illiterate dictator's orders/whims.

This guy has the worldview and the emotional maturity of a toddler. After this whole thing has passed, there MUST be guardrails put in place against this kind of individual
- This whole thing isn't going to pass. Trump/Hegseth are only external expressions of the fundamental rot at the heart of America's social, political and economic systems. America is in terminal decline and putting guardrails around the presidency is too little, too late
  
  Yes, when I said "has passed", I mean "when the people of the United States have vanquished this specific version of fascism". I wasn't suggesting that it was going to pass on its own.
- We had a chance. Biden's administration should have been solely focused on preventing the return and acceleration of fascism. Instead, they cowed to their corporate masters and threw crumbs to the people.
  As others have said, we've likely had our last free election as the United States of America. Whatever follows should absolutely have guardrails against this happening again.
  
  Do you think there's nothing else to be done simply because elections are over? That just means we need to do something else.
  
  And heaven forbid they actually prosecute the guy who tried a violent coup against the government. At least Hitler served time in prison fir his failed coup
- This is likely the end of the road my friend, there is no "when this has passed".
  That is why there is no reason not to fight with everything you have now.
  
  I don't have a say in what happens in the US, I am fighting locally on our own issues here in Mayotte. I wasn't trying to say fascism would "pass", that was a poor choice of words. Let's reword it to "when Trumpism is dead".
- Who's gonna put up guardrails? The useless democrats?
  
  It's up to each state's governors.

Its almost like he wants the California National guard to repeatedly shove their bayonets up his ass and string him upside down from a telephone pole in the streets of DC.
Please, proceed..

Gun grab? Really? I mean it’s about control for sure. But your first thought was gun grab? It’s to create a dictatorship. The fascist fucks won’t stop on that but… gun grab is not how I would describe it…
- An inevitable goal in a dictatorship is disarming the opposition. The in-group can often keep their weapons to help oppress the outgroups.
  This was also, as it happens, one of the real goals of the 2nd Amendment. Most of the founders weren't under any real belief that a militia based military was a viable treat to a regular army like the British model, they saw how poorly the militias fared in the Revolution.
  The militia model that was the goal of the 2nd was about rapid reactionary forces for slave revolts and Indian exterminations.
  Personally I think this is more about killing protestors but whatever they can do two things with one action
  
  Yeah I mean you’re right, power and control, but the they’re coming to take your guns is such a republican idk… dog whistle? Like why is that what you’re worried about when what’s at stake is so huge. I mean unless you’re hoping for a civil war or something.

Sure. Sure. Now, about all the child rape...
- Sure. Use your guns to sieze the epstein files, hard drives, etc.
  But do it before they are gone.
  They will keep attacking and doing evil stuff while we want Files. They will give up power when pried from cold dead hands.
- Trump, after signing the "restore the sanctity of christian marriage act", which bans any sexual acts outside of marriage and without the intent of reproduction, as well as all forms of pornography, will get caught raping young girls in the white house, then he will instead rub it into the faces of liberals (read: everyone left of Mussolini) that he and other people in the system can do whatever they want. Then a TV advertisement about serving president Trump will explicitly say that "if you are loyal enough, you can even rape children". Then Elon Musk begin tweeting about his new girlfriend, a very terrified looking 11 year old.
  
  And they will still talk about defending children and women from rapists and pedophiles without the slightest hint of irony.
- We already know the answer to that.

Step 4: burn Constitution?
Nah, they'll keep it as a holy book to swear on, while doing the opposite of what's written in it.
- Huh. Sounds familiar.

British did exactly this when perpetrating the Boston massacre prior to the Revolution.
- We know how that turned out for them.
  
  The rich and powerful never seem to learn