This guy was later detained for burning the American flag in front of the white house 💀
Guy in military clothing with an American flag on his shoulder burns an American flag in front of the white house while being filmed by bystanders.
Apparently the EO declares burning flags in protest to be "incitement to riot"
source: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1n06xgy/detained_for_burning_the_american_flag/
There shouldn't be any penalties for burning any flags of any kind. Freedom of speech is more important than any symbol.
100% this. If I bought the flag and I want to burn it. Then fuck anyone who says otherwise. It's my property.
B-b-but think of the PATRIOTS!!!!! They don't want their feewings hurt by you burning a piece of fabric with the shapes they like way, way too much, is it too much to ask??/??//?? /s
Yep exactly. All of my coworkers are hardcore conservatives and Trump dick riders. Until the Epstein cover up started most of then completely stopped taking politics some even took down their Trump flags, that was until Trump called for the national guard to “take over” the streets of DC. Now they are all back on board with it saying it time to go to war with America to save America. Now with this flag burning shit they are so excited to hopefully beat the shit outa someone burning the flag to appease dear sweet leader Donny. Hey America are tired yet of all this winning?
Burning the flag should be allowed as long as wiping your ass with the Constitution is allowed.
I guess if you burn the flag and then throw it into an animal shelter and it burns down and kills all the dogs then that should be illegal.
Yah, you're supposed to shoot the puppies, not burn them. -DHS, probably
He should have respected the flag, like making it black and white except one of the strips is blue. Or by putting it on an article of clothing like underwear so the flag can literally go up your butt. You know, "respect".
/s
Or putting it on the back of your truck, where it will get covered in road grime, but you won't care because you're a 'patriot'.
Also /s, of course.
Our maybe beating a police officer with the pole it's mounted to
My MAGA relative has an American flag bath towel. Nothing says "patriotism" like doing the butt-floss with Ol' Glory!
like making it black and white except one of the strips is blue
My favorite sticker is that "thin blue balls" flag but the blue stripe is peeling off to reveal the Nazi flag underneath. I wish I had the balls to put it on my car but I absolutely do not.
This is well-established law. A decision made by SCOTUS.
Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), is a landmark decision by the Supreme Court of the United States in which the Court held, 5–4, that burning the Flag of the United States was protected speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as doing so counts as symbolic speech and political speech.
So this is absolutely pathetic of the Trump administration. These charges have no chance of sticking. It's just authoritarian bullying.
You know what else was well established law? I’ll wait.
“How dare you exercise a constitutionally protected, right!“
– Trump, right before he deports this person, their entire family, and anyone who ever knew them
Isn’t proper flag code to burn an American flag to retire it after it’s become tattered enough not to be a symbol of the US anymore?
The whole thing is super dumb, as you said, burning the flag is the proper way to get rid of one no longer for for display (imagine the flag hanging out of a bin or something).
You know what's also against the flag code? Plastering it everywhere that's not a flag, like towels or whatever. But the flag code is only binding for government bodies if I'm not mistaken.
But yeah, the whole thing is just stupid.
Yes. Under section 176, we see this -- emphasis mine:
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
Within the last day or so -
Burning the flag, renaming DOD to Dept. of War, trying again to deport Kilmar Abrego, signaling they’re going to ban the COVID-19 vaccine, and attempting to sue California to prevent their redistricting while allowing Texas’ to proceed.
Is this more of the gish-gallop that Bannon described that they’re pulling to overwhelm the news cycle so that a few of the bullshit things they’re pulling don’t get overturned, or are they specifically looking to push out some stories, like Trump’s obvious failing health, Epstein-related stories (inclusive of the latest on Gislaine), or possibly the redistricting one above.
Ugh. They’re up to more bullshit than usual, but the signal to noise ratio makes it hard to discern what.
Inciting a riot? I dont think Trump is on any leg to make that accusation
Oh it doesn't matter. None of this matters. The rules, the courts, the white house. It's all bullshit.
Didn't we already have a supreme court case about this? Oh, right, we did. The arrogance of an executive order imposing intent of speech is just one more line of idiocy in the annals of this period.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that happened around the same time that the supreme Court agreed that abortion was a human right as well.
It would be crazy if they were to later contradict themselves.
It would be even crazier if we didn't all arm ourselves, practice and prepare for the worst knowing damn well that we could easily outsmart people that are dumb enough to support fascism on a battlefield that is inevitably coming our way.
I'm reminded of this bit on just wearing the flag
“You’re not going to get arrested for being in violation of the flag code. There’s no flag police,” Leepson says.
Later, the Supreme Court said 1974 that flag wearing was free speech, and in 1989 that flag burning was also free speech.
Ahhh.... simpler times.
Burning the US flag is like the one thing everyone, all over the world, agrees is great, why do you have to be weird
If I see someone burning a flag, is it okay to pee on it to put it out?
We should all be joining him.. They going arrest millions of us? We neee to treat this like the No Kings Day. This shit is beyond unconstitutional. I wonder if Trump is trying to get that overturned? Womder what his SCOTUS will do with this one?
So much for respecting the flag code
any update on this? they let this guy go? If they do charge him with something, I'd love to see how that court case goes.
edit: well, i googled it. Apparently he was released after 4 hours and they charged him with "lighting a fire in a park".
Well he sorta did do that so….
Maybe he prefers to warm up his flags before eating them, I'm sure Zoidberg would agree 👍
Desperation is a stinky cologne John
Link to article?
I'm going to do the same thing, but with a pride flag.