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[RANT] I pay $70/mo for this privilege

I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…

I’ve somewhat recently moved back to a very rural area of the Midwest. Small town. No stop lights. Biggest businesses other than the bars are Casey’s, Subway, and Dollar General.

And we have one ISP (not counting DSL) — Mediacom. When we first signed up, I had to go with the second service tier. But not because of speeds, but so I could have a reasonable 1 TB/mo data cap.

Lucky me, they increased the cap to 1.5 TB. 🙄

I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.

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In Switzerland you get unlimited 10 Gbit/s for 50 bucks.
- I hate you, congrats!
  In Canada we have to give our firstborn to a telecommunication monopoly for somewhat OK internet.
  
  Somewhat OK internet on the infrastructure our taxes paid for and the government handed over to Bell and Rogers, but don't worry, they'll stop all the other evil corporations from coming in and giving us cheaper internet.
  
  I pay 90 ish Canadian pesos for 1gb/1gb for Bell fibre. It's not too bad depending on your location, though that price is still too high. I'm at least making good use of it. 12tb of total transfers this month.
- what the hell
  
  WTF? 25gbps? Dang we really do have shitty internet in the States.
  
  And /48 IPv6 subnet included! As it should be!
- Is it actually 10Gbit/s or just marketing? And how's the latency?
  
  The latency for 1Gbit/s is amazing, and i seem to get that speed. But i really don't have the hardware for more anyways.
- Yeah, but those are metric bits so they are a little bit smaller.
- And for 80$/month you can get 25Gbps!
- 🔫 hand over the internet bill
- Omg

Data caps on home internet services should be illegal. They should also be much higher on mobile, but that's a whole other topic.
I have 940/940 Unlimited FTTH for $93.45(Canadian).
- And France gets 5Gbps for €30 per month or 8Gbps for €40 per month. I’m in the US now and really miss free.fr as my ISP
  
  I'm suddenly more motivated to do my French lessons on Duolingo now.
  
  What average consumer has hardware that's actually capable of using more than 1Gbps?
- Data caps on home internet services should be illegal. They should also be much higher on mobile, but that’s a whole other topic.
  I'm not convinced mobile deserves to have caps at all, either!
  As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to limit the amount of data transfer except in times of congestion, and I also don't see any reason the amount of data transferred during un-congested times should have any bearing on who gets throttled.
- You're way overpaying. I pay $40 for 1.5 Gbps with Bell FTTH. Give them a call and say it's too expensive and see what they can do for you. Or tell them Rogers (if they're in your area) offered you 1.5gbps for $60 and ask if they can beat that.
  As for mobile, you should look at new plans. $39 gets you 20 GB $50 gets you 40 GB. Seems like plenty of data imo https://www.koodomobile.com/en/rate-plans?INTCMP=KM_HDD_2023_Plans_RatePlans_40gbfor45_ROC_MBSK
  Best time to get a mobile plan is Black Friday, should be even better deals by then.

Home internet data caps WERE a thing of the past when Obama appointed Tom Wheeler as FCC chairman, who then pushed rulings to classify ISPs as a public utility and started enforcing net neutrality. Companies that didn't play ball started getting fined until they fell in line. Being a former executive for a major ISP, he was very familiar with the anti-competitive practices and underhanded tricks those companies had been using for years; and he used those practices against them to finally make some pro-consumer progress for internet access in the US.
Then, Trump came in and put Ajit Pai in charge of the FCC (no joke, my phone kept auto correcting his name to Shit Pie). Anyways, Shit Pie tore down those rulings and undid all those years of progress as part of the Trump administration's anti-Obama initiative. Even though it was proven time and again that what he did was directly against public opinion, and that ISPs were flooding the public commentary with bot posts(some even made by dead people); Shit Pie continued to meme about himself and drink from an obnoxiously large Reese's coffee mug while doing so. At this point, every provider of internet services has added back data caps in the US, and they have continued to increase their prices to maintain that 99.9% profit margin. They've also locked down more areas to prevent municipal broadband services from forming, and they're even pushing for legislation to prevent them from ever happening.
The current administration has done absolutely nothing. In fact, they've been so unremarkable, I have no idea who is in charge of the FCC, and I don't feel like looking it up.

In Thailand I'm getting 400Mbps upload and download with unlimited data.
It costs about 300฿/mo ≈ $8.7/mo
- 'Murica #1!!! (In high internet prices)
- But you also get paid less
  
  ~~Median income is $23k in Thailand. $31k in US. It definitely doesn't make up the difference.~~
  Edit: Used Personal income for US and Household for Thailand. It actually doesn't bring the gap significantly closer.
  
  Although I agree that people get paid less here, I highly doubt that it costs an ISP in the US 8x more to transfer data than an ISP in Thailand.
  I'm not really trying to argue that Thai internet is cheap, it's that internet elsewhere is exorbitantly expensive.
  
  What kind of rube works in the same country they live in? I met a lot of WFH workers when I visited Thailand, and not a single one of them was working for a company in Thailand.

Dude... The US is doing it wrong. SE Asia. 1Gbps symmetrical, unlimited, unrestricted. ~14US$.
- Australia looks like an interesting case. Iknow that in some countries, ISPs have to provide service to both urban and rural customers at the same price, which means that urban customers actually subsidize people living in rural areas. In some other cases, the gouvernements help pay for this.
  Isn't there a project in Australia that the federal gouvernement is subsidizing the role-out of fibre?
  
  I have no idea, but that idea didn't work out all that well in the US. The gov provided funding for expansion to the countryside for all the major telecoms...and they just pocketed without actually implementing anything.
  
  Idk but pricing in Australia is fucked. The fibre network isn't that large to begin with afaik, and even if you do have fibre you have to pay an arm and a leg for good speeds.
  E.g. I pay like $70 USD a month for 100/40.
  Symmetric gigabit costs several hundred a month, they're not intended for residential customers.

USAGE ALLOWANCE?!?!
Laughs in Scandinavian
- I have luckily never heard about data caps in Scandinavia except for mobile broadband.
  Do they even exist at all, here?
  
  I don't know, probably not. I don't even know how fast I'd blow through 1,5 Tb!
  
  My first (fast) internet connection was 1 Mbit.
  We had 1gb to download per month. This cap disappeared when more competitors showed up though (i had that cap around ... 2001)
  I havnt seen a data cap for internet connections since. I am not aware of any either. Except for mobile phones. Though, they also have unlimited data for those , if you want. (I have. Just so i never have to worry about it ever again)
  
  I had a friend years ago that had a cap, but that was literally the only one I've heard of in my life here (Sweden)

Yeah, the ISP cartels sucks. I've been stuck paying $170/mo for uncapped 1000/35mbps connection.
Thankfully, before the end of the year, a local ISP is moving into my area. They offer uncapped symmetrical gigabit, for $75/mo... I'll be saving $95/mo for BETTER service.
The longstanding ISP cartels should seriously be punished for the abuse of their market positions and failure to appropriately use government funding they've been given.
- 1000/35mbps
  That download/upload dichotomy should be illegal in and of itself!
  
  Yeah that's abysmal, but it's a result of the fact that docsis has always been an asymmetrical standard in which upload speeds are lower than download. I recently moved house and my old ISP was fiber to prem, we had symmetrical gigabit. New house is cable ISP that only offers 1000/50... While docsis 3.0 supports up to 200mbps up. Bunch of greedy bastards.
- Oh they appropriated it all right, straight into their yachts and mansions.
- Same boat here… and then the “default cap” is nothing. Between work and family, we hit the data cap of 1.25TB within three weeks.
  Any place I can find more info about the “end of the year” timeframe you mentioned? A new ISP is also rolling in my area, but their site has been vague on time.
  The main street into our house currently has it available, but our actual address not yet… driving me a little crazy.
  Hope the new one is available for you soon.

In Germany we pay lots of money for 5G data volume. For me I got 20 Gigs for about 40 bucks, this is mostly Not a thing in the rest of Europe. But data plans on landlines are really dumb.
- In Denmark, I pay _{19€ (}$21) for 1000GB of mobile data (they call it 'unlimited', but the small text says they may cut you off at 1000GB). Of course, I rarely use more than 50GB a month on my phone.
  
  weint auf deutsch
  I'm moving to another provider next month to increase from 8GB@€30 to 15GB€25... Those are per month...
  
  This is what I am talking about … Most countries in Europe just gives you kinda unlimited data plans… look at this crap
  I rarely need mobile data because I work from home but if my landline has an interruption I can barely work 1 or 2 days with that if I tweak data consumption on my work laptop.
- Check out Vodafone if you’re younger than 28. I’m paying 22€/month with their Gigakombi for unlimited 5G.
  
  Way beyond that ;)
- Pretty much a thing in NL and afaik also BE.
  source: am Dutch.
  T mobile NL, 5G capped at 22GB. Cost: 20 euro.
  35 euro in NL wl give you t mobile unlimited which is capped at 15 GB per day. Other providers charge more or less the same.
  @home internet 1up/down GB fiber 45 euro. No datacap.

$40 for 2 Gbps unlimited in Singapore. Caps on home broadband are frankly nonsensical.

I'm reading all the comments and I'm shocked... In France, with uncapped access and 1Gbps down/600Mbps up (theorical) I pay 40€/mo (30€ every six month when I call to complain that it's too expensive). And it's definitely not the cheapest provider.
That's insane !
- 1Gbps down/700Mbps up here, 35€/month (another french provider), no data caps - for 5 bucks/month more I could have 5Gbps down/1Gbps up, but... well, my home network is still using 1Gbps switches - but all the cabling was built with 10Gbps in mind.
  Data caps are pure robbery. We run a non-profit ISP/hosting platform and a non-profit IXP with friends in West France, the only thing you pay (and the only thing end users should have to pay) is goddamn bandwidth.
- Interesting that they give you more up than down. Are you on a server plan or something like that?
  Edit: lol just noticed what community this is, server plan makes more sense now.
  
  I messed up, that's the opposite actually ^^
- (30€ every six month when I call to complain that it's too expensive)
  Sounds like a Liberty Global owned telecom company... they love their annual price increases ugh, but they are usually the fastest option in most areas

I was very close to closing on a house in rural midwest but I checked isp's and every one available had caps so I just stayed away.
- It's why you just get a business line, usually just slightly more expensive, and you get 99.9% SLA uptime and unlimited cap.
  
  You shouldn't need a business line to get reliable, fast, unlimited internet.
  
  And a static IP, and the ability to do whatever you want with the fiber
- Good choice. I live in the rural midwest and the only thing that'll reach (even though we're in the flatlands) is a WISP we pay $170 a month for 12/6. No data caps, but it's slow as shit. At least it's not satellite so we can still play games online fairly reliably but damn.
- Great internet is also a deciding factor for us while looking for our next rural midwest home! I use the FCC Broadband Map and availability searches on local ISP websites to confirm available speeds and no data caps. We passed on some great homes because of slow/no internet or data caps.
  Our current rural midwest home has 940x35 w/o data caps from a cable-based (DOCSIS 3.1) ISP for $34.99/month. I'm sure they will increase the price after 12 months. When the time comes, I'll call them again to complain and get a decent price again.

lol uncapped 500mbps fiber (actual fiber directly to your house) connection is 10-12$/month in Ukraine

Looking at all you guys with your gigabit connections, meanwhile I'm in Aus and lucky to get 30 down and 15 up
- Not eligible yet for the fttp upgrade? Hang in there mate.
  I got upgraded from fttn to fttp at the start of this year.
- Wish i had 15 up, im getting 40 down 3 up. They started putting fiber down my street but not active yet, cant wait to go to 1 gig

I live in the UK and currently have copper cable at about 60mbps for £60 per month. I thought what I had was bad because I have a friend who gets 1gbps for £30 a few miles away.
- I'm in the US and get 1Gbps for about £30, because my city forced ISPs to sell portions of their networks to third party competitions to break up monopolies.
  
  Crazy that they make you pay in pounds in the US though.
- Where on earth are you and who with to be fleeced that much?
  
  In the north-west. BT currently have a local monopoly so they can charge what they want
- Where the hell in the UK are you? I'm in the North and pay £26 for 60mbps but get more like 70 due to how close I am to the street cabinet though I haven't even got copper cable here, just crappy aluminium that is so old I think Alexander Graham Bell himself fitted them.
  
  I'm in leeds and pay £30 a month for 1gig with virgin. You sould move house. Get better broadband.
  
  I'm in the north-west but I'm limited to BT because nobody else has cables down yet. A different company claims to be fitting FttP round here in a few months though.

Lol Germany here checking in 500/50 for 29.99

Where I am, there was only one provider of internet for a long time, and I was paying for a plan that's more or less what you have right now. Then another company came in and laid fiber, and both companies slashed prices and now I get over double my download speed, no data cap, and something crazy like 50x the old upload speed all for like 20 dollars less a month! Before I switched to the fiber company, the first company even increased my download speeds without increasing the price! Anyone who says competition doesn't change things is crazy.
- Competition is beautiful ain’t it?

Well, the internet companies have successfully bribed politicians to avoid competition. This is just the normal result of everyday corruption.

I had uncapped 500/50Mbps for €10 but now I moved to a village and I'm stuck with 100/10Mbps for €20 :(
- I've got 1000/1000 fiber for €32, which I think is a pretty good deal in the Netherlands at the moment. I will go back to 100/100 for probably a similar amount after my contract is up as 1000/1000 is simply overkill for our use case. But who knows, maybe I'll find another deal.
  
  I’ve got 1000/1000 fiber for €32
  you lucky bastards. higher qol and better broadband? hope your nipples freeze off, I'm envious.
- You're lucky, I'm on 25/2Mbps and I pay £32 per month for the privilege.
  
  Lmao rural USA checking in, 20Mbps down for $200 a month. Kill me
  
  I'm slightly baffled by all this. I'm scheduled to get my line upgraded to be able to handle 100mbps in 2025 and I'm currently able to get 48mbps which costs me about USD55/mo. I only got the upgrade from 8mbps in 2019 (stupid conservative govt). While I'm looking forward to the better connection, I don't really find a problem with 50 at the moment. I work from home, I stream multiple instances of media, I torrent things sometimes. I think I'm on an cap of 1tb but tbh I'd have to check if that's what it still is, I haven't looked for a long time.

In Brazil I pay 20 USD for 500mb. There are plans in my area that sells 1gb for 30 USD. Thay can't put data caps due to legislation, only on mobile data (which I pay 6usd for 20gb cap, 5g)
- I believe some have data caps even for landline internet, they get around legislation saying you get slower Internet after you reach the cap but yeah, I pay like 25 USD for 600 mps down and 300 mps up
  
  They cannot be enforced here on wired connections since 2016 even if you signed a contract, thankfully.
- Preciso mudar meu país do viver ...

OP, check out the websites about grants ISPs are getting to put fiber in rural areas and see if your area is on the list somewhere (I would try and link you to some, but I'm on mobile and for some reason I have a hell of a time finding those sites while on mobile). You can see below what I've had to deal with for about 20 years, until my area finally got covered by one of those grants a few months ago. I am super rural - like, I am literally surrounded by nationally protected forest and nothing else; it'snot a place I thought would ever be included in those grant locations. It was, though, and I now have Gigabyte internet with no cap, with VOIP, for $74.98 a month. If I'm not using WiFi, I get an actual gig of download speed. If I'm on wifi, it's usually between 600-900MB.
Up until recently, we paid Centurylink about $150 a month for two lines into the house. Each line maxed out at 0.75MB download speed and 0.23 MB upload speed. We needed two lines to even be able to function. Almost 20 years of this, with no other options besides Hughesnet. We tried them for a little while; their equipment cost a fortune, it was about$150 a month, the speed was nearly as bad and they had a 200MB A MONTH CAP. We had to turn off images for websites in order to not go over the cap. Previous to 2004, I lived in a very rural part of NY. We had high speed internet for $69 a month, no cap. I can't remember the speed, but I remember that it took 3 minutes to download a full sized movie. 20 YEARS AGO the internet was better, and cheaper!

About to move to a new house, pretty much had to harass Verizon for a week to add the address to their database so I could move our service.
$70/mo for 1Gig up/down with no cap. The alternative was Xfinity.
I was not going to Xfinity.
- I have Comcast now and it's okay in my area (no data cap scam in my area), but probably only because Verizon is available across the street. I had Verizon before I moved and it was faster but they completely forgot that they needed to implement IPv6.
  
  Xfinity also lied and told me there wouldn’t be a cancellation fee since I wasn’t under contract (so I thought) and I was moving to an area that they didn’t serve.
  Turns out when I had called in a year prior with a question they “renewed” the contract without my approval and there WAS a cancellation fee. But never told me. Never sent me a bill.
  Didn’t know anything until I got a collections letter for $400. Called them up and they had the notes on my account from the three different reps I spoke to over the phone to confirm there was no fee. Because there were so many conflicting reports online I wanted to be sure. They did not give a fuck and pretty much admitted their reps lied.
  So fuck Xfinity.

Shit dude, I pay €20 for synchronous 1Gb/s.

Yea while we were in alaska we were capped. we were in fairbanks as well, which isn't that rural. I lived in the high desert of california. drive 20 min from hesperia to phelan and you could probably get meth easier than consistent internet.
- Time to establish IP over Meth Dealers then
- Gotta love the GCI monopoly in Alaska. So glad I left that god forbidden State

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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AP	WiFi Access Point
DNS	Domain Name Service/System
IP	Internet Protocol
IoT	Internet of Things for device controllers
Plex	Brand of media server package
VPN	Virtual Private Network

6 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 8 acronyms.

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Maybe you should organise a community run ISP instead?
They're quite common where I live, although I don't use one myself. I still only pay 400sek for unlimited 500/500.

Our local fiber (1000/1000) is truly unlimited and just had a price decrease from $120 to $100. Never had an ISP do that before!

Oh boy, you're still lucky with your data cap 🙂
Mine's ~90 Mbps down, ~35 Mbps up, 10 GB open access + 8 GB site-specific of your choice, you reload it weekly for $2.
There's also a 1 GB "Metaverse Go" bandwidth as well, I have no idea which sites are included in that because when I download updates for my Fedora laptop and download apps from Flathub, it uses that bandwidth.

Mediacom is the worst, data caps and low speeds for high prices, straight highway robbery. I'm lucky to have a local ISP with no data caps and a mostly reasonable price, cheaper than Mediacom at least. And soon to be fiber when they make it over to my neighborhood. They're currently in the process of running fiber to every neighborhood in my city.

This is almost started price in Canada
- Is it? I get 1.5Gbps for $80/mo no caps and I checked my tiny hometown and they have similar prices. This is in Ontario around Ottawa
- In my rural town where the cottage is, XPloreNet finally brought fiber. I used to pay $140 for SpaceX (and because of the trees, I got at most 100 mbs of throughput). Now, with XPloreNet, I get consistent 100 mbs and my bill has been reduced to $75 per month. We pay too much for our Internet.
  
  The sad thing is you only need one company to enter the market with aggressive prices so the others are forced to react (and admit they were abusing their clients).
  That’s what happened in France with Free, and now everyone can have 15 to 30€ good internet. Caps are something never heard of. Later they did the same thing with mobile networks and now most of Europe have cheap unlimited no roaming etc. Zero company went bankrupt, they just had to learn how to reduce their margins.
  As a result I have a 10Gb/10Gb fiber with tv for 40$

1000/300 unlimited FTTH for ~20$ in hungary, however this company (digi) was killed by the government, and bought under price by a company (4ig) which is very close to the goverment, and the stateparty, and they did 2 subscription price ups, so 2 years ago it was about 10$... We have "bent capitalism" here which resembles to communism...

"Allowance" what the fuck? Aren't they infantilising their customers?
- That's the technical term for monthly usage limits.

$70? In Australia I pay $85 for 75/20 unlimited.
- In Sweden I pay $23 for 100/100 unlimited. My phone even has 100 down unlimited for $30/month

Paying less than 10$ a month for mobile data with unlimited 4g (5g unlimited in this plan for the testing phase). Living in a third world country. Wifi connection is unlimited at 100mbps speed at almost the same amount.

just out of interest .. somebody here on satellite? I am interested to know the prices for sat services out there?

The FCC is still to my knowledge taking public comments about data caps:
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests
May be worth people here commenting about how they are ridiculous

Northeast US here. Fairly healthy competition in my area, the fiber at my home is about $50/mo

My parents in rural Washington pay $70/month for 10Mbps down. I'm not sure the ISP bothers with a cap.
I have CenturyLink 940/940 here in Seattle with no cap for $65. The alternative is Wave which has a cap and you have to deal with introductory price bullshit.
- Down in Oregon, I get either 100mbps through CenturyLink for $65 or 1.2gbps down/30mbps up from Comcast for $130 (with the $30 extra to remove the data cap). I would kill for a symmettical connection even if it were only 500/500.
- I'm stuck with Comcast 1200/30 with a 1.2TB cap for $100/mo, it's this or DSL
- neither will give me fiber; wave offered adsl :(
  stuck with comcast, which I despise.

I get unlimited 10Gbps symmetric fiber for $40/month. One of the only affordable things in the San Francisco Bay Area, lol
- what the actual fuck, thats so cheap
  
  Probably lives near datacenter
- 2Gbps symmetric fiber, $70/month, flyover state. Could go up to 5Gbps for another like $20. No data caps. I may never move again.
  
  I get half that speed from a plan that costs more, though at least I don't have data caps and it's better than other plans I've seen
- Off topic: I see that there is "9 more replies" and I am unable to expand the thread... could someone please offer guidance?
  
  I see them!
  Here's a screenshot:
- H O W Can I buy your home please? It would probably be cheaper to do that then keep paying for internet
  
  Nice houses are over $1.8 million here. Expensive area, but at least the internet is a good deal.
- You must have Sonic.net like I do. I was so glad the home I bought was in their coverage area. Fuck Comcast.
  
  Yes!! They're the best. I switched to Sonic as soon as they rolled out in my area. Availability (or future availability) of Sonic was one of the things I looked for when buying a house.

Hot damn, where can I sign up?!?! I get the same except for a 1.2 TB data cap and pay $130/mo. Xfinity in the Denver metro area. Finally getting fiber this winter, symmetrical gigabit for $90.
- $140 for 30 meg that's usually about 8, unless the neighbors are using it, then I'm lucky to get a 480p stream...

In the same exact boat as you. We have Mediacom or one DSL. They gave me a really good deal for the first year on my 1gig, but after that it's going to be about $140 a month. To make matters worse too, the wiring in my apartment building is REALLY old, so the service cuts out randomly sometimes (All tenants in the building are on splitters sharing one cable with the apartment across the hall.) And of course the landlord said that Mediacom was trying to trick me into spending more money and he would absolutely not run new cable. Internet in rural areas of the US is a total shit show. My connection is somewhat stable now, but I can't wait for something else to come to my area.
And yes I looked into Starlink, my building has a strict NO PUTTING UP ANTENNA policy.
And yes I looked into Mobile Carrier Routers and the fastest I can get is 50mb download with a data cap.
I feel your problem on a spiritual level.
- You mentioned the US, so please look up the FCC rules regarding limiting tenants from putting up antennas and dishes. It might be illegal for them to restrict that.

Denmark: 1gbps up/down with static IPv4 and IPv6 address for 105dkk ($15).
I can reliably get the offered speeds and the connection is unlimited. Pretty happy with that.
Where we lived in Florida we has Spectrum and they didn’t even offer Ethernet. Apartment only had WiFi with router access…
- Central Florida has AT&T fiber now. I pay $108 a month for 2.5gbit up and down. 1gbit is $80 IIRC.

Sweden: 50 Usd 1gb up/down fiber directly pulled to a media converter located in my house. Not like I had, living in UK, fiber to a telecom box on the street and then Lan cable to my property...
- The UK has two modes of "fibre" FTTC fibre to cabinet. Then copper to your property. Or FTTP, fibre to premise, which is as you describe fibre right to your property.

India - $8/mo, symmetrical 150Mbps, unlimited.

About 63€/68$ for 100/10mbps speed and a 150GB data cap. Including a cable tv subscription.
That's in Europe.

Yikes. I pay $80 a month for 1Gbps up and down with no data cap. It's amazing what happens when one company doesn't have a monopoly in an area. Prices go down and quality of service goes up.
- *edit: replied to wrong comment

I pay about $80/mo and have a 1200 GB cap.
It used to be $50 a month with no cap. But "that plan is no longer available" in my area.

Dont worry, the market will simply regulate itself.

Damn. Our symmetrical 500 mbps plan, with no caps, is USD 14 per month

You have a datacap? Damn

I live in the southwest. They're garbage. It's them or CenturyLink on, wait for it, COPPER WIRE!

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