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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told

This was bound to happen, and it’s ridiculous

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  • How about parents supervise their own kids them-fuckin'-selves?

    • Naturally is a problem of the parents and of nobody else, but the childrens are only an excuse of legislators to impose control, the only reason. If not the children than are crimes or terrorism to justify surveillance. More fascist an gov, more censorship, more biased information and less privacy is supported, it's an axiom, the best citizen is an ignorant and submissive one. "First they banned childs from porn sites, than they banned anonym access to Wikipedia and VPN....." recipe how to cook a frog

      https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO02/20220407/114616/HHRG-117-GO02-20220407-SD018.pdf

      Repeating history by the same assholes to kill the free and open internet and information.

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    It's their job to guard their kids from this content first and foremost. It's their job to put it into context for their children. But the article doesn't even mention that any of this is a humongous failing of parents.

    Next this commissioner will want to outlaw computer mice because they're used to click pornographic content without verifying the age of the finger on the button. And roads because adult content actors use them to get to jobs.

    The way forward is not banning or making worse all sorts of useful tools as collateral damage in this "think of the children" campaign. It is to get all adult content everywhere behind a barrier toddlers cannot break. We were fine with porn mags partially obscured on the top shelf at a news agent when that was a thing. And the salesperson making sure the customer wasn't a minor. The solution isn't closing all digital news agents.

    And it's quite telling that the existence of VPNs didn't play a bigger part in this UK online safety initiative. Like it wasn't obvious that when the west entrance to porn central was closed off, people wouldn't naturally look for the ones in east, north, and south.

    Edited typo

  • I'm getting to the point where I'd rather see csam legalized than this shit. (Keep reading)

    Think about it: csam will happen, period. I'm not world's best computer engineer but even Incan build something that embeds data like text or images in other files in ways that cannot be detected. I can build basic but effective encryption that will be hard enough to crack. I can find ways to exchange files outside the internet, hell, do sneakernet

    And kids watching porn online? They'll have their buddies who have libraries that will be copied. A single USB drive can contain days of porn videos and you can't stop that either

    Then there are these laws that "are to protect children" which makes me just outright want to vomit. You take victims of child pornography and use them for your political gain, for your power. You are almost worse than pedophiles. At least pedophiles harm only one child, you harm all of them you sack of fucking shit.

    And no, of course I don't want child pornography legalized, of course not by what is the solution?

    These assholes have been at it for decades now and they play the long game. They can lose every year and come back next year. They only have to win once and they move on to he next good thing they can destroy.

    So what can we actually really seriously do to stop this?

    • We had hardcore magazines that circulated back in the days before easy internet. Guess the last time children didn't have access was probably in the 18th century or so.

      Guess the next step is controlling all chat groups, emails and cloud spaces to "avoid children exploiting these"...

    • I think we just have to accept that no solution is 100%. You just need some balance between success and side effects.

      As long as people can communicate, it will to some extent spread. So really, the only truly 100% solution would be a couple of nuclear bombs all around the world. Look at that, crime rates went to 0!

      I am not really intelligent or knowledgeable enough to provide best-balance solutions.

      Anyway, as far as limiting access to porn, perhaps it could be done privately. You could have some trusted verification platform, perhaps even government provided, deal with it with cryptographic signature, maybe as I said, I am too dumb for solutions.
      My idea is, the website that wants to verify your age knows the public key of the government provided service used for this purpose (who already has your data anyway), and generates some random data in base64. You copy that, paste it into the verification website, they sign it, and give you the base64-encoded response. You then paste the response into website that wants to verify your age, it verifies the signature and then that you're 18+.

      Basically just trusted authority saying "verified being 18+". The website doesn't know who you are, verification system doesn't know what you wanted that verification for.

      Of course, you could verify that for anyone else, but I can also walk into a shop, buy cigarettes, alcohol and give them to a kid. Not 100%, but good enough.

  • ffs, authoritarian overreaching technologically illiterate BS. This also won't work if you're determined, make sure you have a paid up VPS!

  • Who would have ever thought a small amount of water would ever fall on meeeeeeee??!

  • Parents really need to prevent the watching of pornography by children. That's getting out of control.

    No VPN ban or OSA-style BS needed.

  • They're probably thinking --> "Damn it, how dare these future employees watch pornography and undermine their motivation to work?"

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