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How do y'all manage to not be in an existential crisis all the time? I feel like I'm in a warzone even though it's peacetime in my country. [Trigger Warning for depression, existential stuff, etc.]

I know this is more fitted for the mental health community on lemmy.world, but that community feels like shouting in the void. I want to have a more "normal" talk about like life, death, purpose, and stuff. How do y'all not just get consumed by how you will be gone one day, how one day no one in the world will even remember you. Most of us aren't even gonna have a wikipedia page, not even gonna make it into one single news article (obituaries don't count). I'm just so sad. What's the point. What keeps you going?

Edit: I live in the USA btw, I'm around age 18-25. I was diagnosed with depression last year and I took some antidepressants for some time, but I've since stopped taking them for a while.

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  • Some of us embrace the meaninglessness.

    Sure, one of these days I’m gonna kick it and within a generation, at best, no one will remember me.

    And what’s wrong with that? I won’t know anyway.

    So, if life is meaningless and nothing matters and we all die in the end, then why not make the most of it? If all I get are (let’s be honest) a good 60 years, then why not spend those around people I like, doing things I like, going places I like?

    I’m obviously constrained by not being rich. But I found myself a job that pays well and doesn’t fuck me up too bad. I actually quite like it. I met some of my friends there, and I’m surrounded by smart, driven people, some of whom I actually look up to.

    The other 16 hours of the day I spend doing things I find meaning in. Reading good books. Watching good shows. Spending time with my SO. Writing. Having drinks with friends. Lifting heavy things.

    By default we have nothing at the start, and nothing again at the end. Why not enjoy the middle? Nothing needs to have any other meaning than “I like it”. Why not spend 3 hours washing the car? I like it. I like those 30 seconds when I’m done and it’s shiny as fuck. Why not spend 16 straight hours playing a new game with a couple of friends? I like it. Why not spend 10h a week in the gym getting way stronger than I’ll ever need to be? I like it.

    I call this optimistic nihilism and I find it quite liberating.

  • "It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present and a waste to live in the future." - from "Dune" by Frank Herbert

    Howdy. 56 yo, here. I have ADHD, as well as dystymia. About two years ago, I had a pretty big spiritual awakening, and it's really helped bring some of the things you mentioned into perspective for me.

    "How do y’all not just get consumed by how you will be gone one day, how one day no one in the world will even remember you." My grandparents have been gone a while. I haven't forgotten them, the love they gave me, nor the wisdom and values they imparted to me. My high school chum Paul committed suicide while we were freshmen. I haven't forgotten him, nor the time he stuck up for me on a high school road trip to Houston, TX (one of our fellow students wouldn't stop smoking in the hotel room. I was having an asthma attack, so Paul clocked him with one of those souvenir foot long baseball bats you get at the games to get him to stop.)

    It's the little ways we impact people's lives that matters. Our existence is impressed upon others in the time we share with them, not by Wikipedia pages, news articles, YouTube followers, etc. For me, my purpose is not stuff (though those Steam Decks do look pretty sweet), nor fame, nor even fortune. It's about finally getting to a place in my life where I like myself, and extending that to those I come in contact with every day. And when the day comes when we finally shed this body, we'll never really be gone, because we'll have made a difference - no matter how big or small - to somebody somewhere in this world.

    I wish you enlightenment, joy, and fulfillment. Now and always. 🙏 🕉️

  • I try to find ways to make me feel like my life has meaning. For me, those things are: Creating things, protesting and acting against injustice (even in "small" ways), telling others about things they did not know before.

  • to preface this, i just want to say i don’t have any mental illnesses or disorders or anything, and so, if you do, this might not help at all. this is just my own perspective on life.

    i’ve never personally been very caught up in the whole our lives are meaningless, we are only a minor blip in time, nothing matters in the end, we are tiny and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, etc. i think i used to care somewhat, but i sort of just realized at some point that, even if we don’t matter “overall”, that doesn’t mean our lives don’t matter at all.

    it doesn’t particularly matter to me that one day i’ll be dead and forgotten, because, well, i’m not dead and forgotten right now. right now i’m alive and experiencing things and have people who care about me. why should it matter that, in 100 years or so, i’ll be dead? why should that take away from the very real life/experiences/memories i have right now?

    same idea with size/scale related thoughts. we are tiny on a cosmic scale, our lives don’t matter because of how inconsequential they are, etc. but like… the only thing i have is my life and experiences. why should it matter to me what’s important on a “cosmic scale”? if it’s not concerned with me, i quite frankly don’t see why it should concern me either.

  • Is there a reason why you've stopped taking antidepressants? Asking respectfully, not in an attempt to have you justify your decision, because why would you have to.

    Personally I'm an atheist, and thus (by extension) probably a bit of a nihilist - once I'm dead, I'll cease to exist and nothing really matters to me anymore. This means that once I've been gone for so long that nobody remembers me, I've long stopped caring.

    I still try to live the best possible life. Because while the world in its entirety may not notice my existence, I certainly do, as does the tiny part of the world I interact with, and I intend to make the most of my time here.

    People also tend to underestimate the impact they have one other people's lives. Ask anybody about people who have influenced them, and you will get a huge list. Ask the same person about a list of people they think they have influenced, and the list will be much, much shorter. Until somebody explicitly tells you that you've had an influence on them, it's hard to know about it.

    Ever since I've got step kids I can't stop worrying about what they'll learn from me and whether I'll be a good influence or the one they'll point their finger at in therapy session or on true-crime TV one day. So far they appear to turn out great, and every time they say or do something that they might have copied from me, I'm still in awe.

    The same is true for other kids in the extended family, students that are unfortunate enough to be mentored by me, friends in need, ...

    I'm also prone to worrying about pretty much anything (IT professional with a focus on security - not sure whether it's an occupational hazard or my tendency to worry has steered me to my current job).

    Personally I've found that categorising my fears/worries helps tremendously.

    If it's a rational fear, it should be something tangible and I can look into steps to alleviate it. Our stock of food, water, fuel and medical supplies f'r instance should comfortably get us through any natural disaster, pandemic or power outage than can realistically be expected.

    Irrational fears are difficult, as they tend not to be impressed by the fact that they're irrational and there's nothing to worry about. But I can still try and find other ways to alleviate them. For example when I was a child there was a time when we were piss-poor, and I still worry a lot about money even though we're relatively well-off now and my job is very secure. In these situations I've found that it helps to look at our well-stocked pantry, so that something in my animal brain sees the abundance of food and stops worrying.

    If it's something that doesn't affect me directly but still bothers me (e.g. the Ukraine war), is there any way I can help? For example make a donation, influence my country's politics (tough one in 'neutral' Switzerland at the moment), or anything else that makes me feel like I've made a difference?

    Also, do keep in mind that most media paint an incomplete picture of what's really going on in the world. Headlines such as "Boyscout helps old lady cross the road" or "today has been a rather nice and uneventful day" just don't make for good visitor numbers.

    Enjoying the small things can help. Mindfulness, as in "the ability to appreciate the small and seemingly insignificant things", is a wonderful tool to combat existential dread.

  • Preface: I'm not going to pretend to know your situation or circumstances. If you're struggling to find meaning or purpose in life, I've my answers but there's isn't AN answer even if you look for it. Don't hesitate to seek out help if you feel there's anything that you can't get through alone. I'm generally healthy, but I've had a few times I've spiralled through an unhealthy amount of anxiety. With that all said, my answer is below and you can see if it might help you.


    For me, doing kind things for other people brings me joy and purpose. I know I can't fix the world and all it's complicated problems, but I'm capable enough to do something that would mean the world for a person, even if for just a moment.

    Why do people have to know my name? After my life, does how much money I have to my name, how many newspaper articles are made mentioning me doesn't matter at all? I think about the kind things people have done for me, and I think about how I can pay forward even a small fraction of it. And even if the people I help don't know who I am, does that matter?

    The mark I leave on the world that I have control over, are the things I do and the choices I make while I am a living being. That means that if I make a concious choice to improve myself and improve others' lives to the best degree I can, that mark will have been positive. Even if it's the smallest bit of noise in the universe, it will forever have an impact even if no one knows about it.

    The world is a sad unforgiving place that you have very little to no control over its unforgivingness. Once you realize this and try to make even the most microscopic pockets of positivity around you, perhaps you will be able to build something that resembles direction.

    Donate, volunteer, socialize, talk to successful and unsuccessful people alike. Meditate/be mindful. Explore how other people are feeling without needing to make their problems your problems. Connect with nature. Connect with the man-made. Connect with people. Feel your presence in this world with all your available senses. See everything that IS for what it IS, rather than what it could be. Only from there, begin to look at what you can do about it.

  • Do you do sports and eat well? I found that physical and mental stimulation help against depression.

    You're pretty young, it's not too late to change the world. I for one teach young people how IT works, which is very fulfilling.

    • Um... quick question, are you a bot? Your account is marked as a bot... 🤔

      But anyways. Physical excercise is gonna be tough. I can't even breath very well, if I walked a bit too fast, I'd be struggling to breathe. I had covid before and I wonder if that made my lungs worse or something. Speaking of IT, I was in a state university majoring in Computer Science, I actually got very excited when I got accepted. But quickly my depression went very bad and I had to withdrawl. Idk if I can even learn stuff anymore. I read an article that said that depression can cause long-term brain damage. I feel like I'm sick and dying. I can't even think like I used to be able to. I feel like my depression has caused my intelligence to drop a lot.

      • If you reduce stress and increase exercise your brain will recover. I have seen people so stressed and depressed they couldn't even hold a conversation for more than two sentences. One of them is a multimillionaire business owner nowadays.

      • kinda sounds like you have long covid. i'd highly recommend working on improving your cardiovascular health in the short term. if you can run, run. if not, walk. just as much activity as you can do consistently

        it's hard to underscore how important being able to breathe is. i know you're depressed and worried about things, and you don't feel like anything has a point... but it's a lot easier to feel those things when your cells can't get the energy they need to function

        i'm a little too sleepy to write much about the nihilism you're feeling, but... i spend my life trying to help people and improve the lives of those around me as much as i can. it doesn't really matter to me if i'm remembered

        but being able to help others starts with being able to help yourself. you can only give once you, yourself, are provided for. and you deserve that, so do your best to achieve it, even though the world makes that very hard

        try to do some breathing techniques and meditation too. i like 4-7-8 breathing (inhale for 4 counts, hold for 7, exhale for 8) but you can try 4-4-4 (same thing but all are 4 counts) or just focusing on breathing where you're exhaling longer than you're inhaling

        why did you stop your depression medication? if it wasn't working for you, you should bring it up to your doctor and try a different one. there are a lot of them and one will probably help you

        for the meditation, read about mindfulness. it's about just trying to be present in the moment, instead of losing your train of thought and focusing on that

        try to focus on these basic things for the next six months or so. covid can be devastating to the human body and recovery takes a long time. be easy on yourself and do your best to heal. you're young so you'll hopefully be able to bounce back with some patience and effort

        i hope this helps, i think you sound like a bright young person with a good future ahead of you, if you can become healthy again. i believe you can, i hope you can too

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