7d ago

TIL Elon Musk travels with as many as 20 bodyguards

Source : The Financial Times

165 comments

Has he tried not being a human pile of feces?
- Self-improvement is a poor man’s game.
  
  If you have a dominance-oriented worldview, being less shitty than your clout allows you to get away with is preemptively surrendering. Imposing your full shittiness on the world is dominance.
  The former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is said to have not changed his socks daily, seeing imposing his stench on underlings and those wishing to deal with him as a power flex.
- Who would dare question his nobility? Guy has so much money not a person around him is going to want to risk telling money bags himself he's not the greatest person on earth.
  The reason: they either depend on him for money or if they don't then they know he's emotionally unstable enough to turn this into a monetary problem with lawsuits or political fuckery.
  Most people have seen how things go when they talk to their insane MAGA uncle about reality. Now just imagine if he had all day to fuck around, was constantly taking drugs and was unimaginably wealthy.
  
  don't forget the lack of accountability.
- Nope
- i assume the tax savings outweighs the cost of the bodyguards.
  
  With each bodyguard he adds one more person has the opportunity to do a funny thing.

Luigi, a job creator
- We need to create a lot more jobs.
  
  There are a lot of jobs for Luigi.
- Allegefly. He was with me in san Francisco at the time of the shooting.
- When we rise up hopefully they will join us. If not oh well we will bring extra body bags.
- Luigi, Elon Musk fan

Who is going to protect him from his own security personnel?
- Hopefully no one.
- Hopefully he just vets them by asking grok "should I hire these guys"
- Someone should send him a historical overview of Rome's Praetorian Guard.
  
  please don't do that
  send it to the bodyguards instead
- Yeah, 20 is about the point at which you’re actually making it easier for a nut job with a gun to get access to you.
  
  That's why he had a human shield with him
- Why would he need protection from them? When was the last time security personnel offed the person they were hired to protect?
  
  1989, when Nicolae Ceasescu got killed by the Romanian Army officers he ran to for protection.
  
  You're right. Think about this. On January 6, 2021, Trump was illegally inciting an insurrection. He was surrounded by Secret Service agents who are only ostensibly paid to protect him.
  Secret Service agents first oath is to defend the Constitution. So, they actually had a primary duty that day, not to protect Trump, but to arrest him.
  They had all sworn a solemn oath that required them to take action against Trump, but nobody did anything of the sort. In fact, they famously broke the law by not retaining the information from their phones from that day.
  
  JFK

Elon Musk, father of 14 children was basically never seen with his kids until a CEO was shot. Now he always travels with at least one portable meat shield.
- Father of 14 known children. The down low is apparently he pays women one million dollars to bear his child and she has to sign a non-disclosure agreement that she won't tell people it is his baby.
  He is on record saying he wants to make a legion. That is around five thousand babies. He is one of the richest men in the world so this is within his reach. I am going to go throw up now.
  
  That's not bad, I wish my rectum was fertile.
- "Hey Kevlar, hop on daddy's shoulders, time to go to work!"

Is the human shield kid a security professional too? By the time he's 18 he will have 16 years of bodyguard experience, the perfect employee just like in those entry level job ads.
- For legal purposes he's a volunteer
  
  For tax purposes, he's office equipment.

Aspirationally kill. What a fucking turd of a human Elon is.
- The people who wanted to "aspirationally" kill him were also "homicidal". This is valuable contextual information that tells the reader(/listener) additional things about the circumstances that they may not have realised before which gives them more insight into the situation so they can comprehend it better. Em dash.
  
  It gives context from an unreliable source, placing emphasis on him as a victim rather than the cause of the asymmetric living conditions that his lifestyle causes.

Good. Stay lonely with the gang of dudes you have to pay to hang around you and whose only job is to keep people away from you.
I just went to see a movie with a big group of friends and now getting a burger, before tonight I work on a creative project with some other friends who all really respect and appreciate each other's talents.
Something this fascist freak will never have.
- assuming the freak is even capable of wanting such things or even understanding why someone would want it.

“Foundation Security” 🙄
Probably related to the Foundation series from Isaac Asimov and Musk’s absurd idea that he is remotely a figure in some such space story.
- iirc he's named after some space serial character. I do wish he'd just fuck off to space.
  
  I say next time Musk wants to get a permit to fly one of his Starship test flights, we require he be riding on the thing.
  
  Thats why he names his children like the way he does
- He's named after a character called The Elon from Werner Von Braun's sci-fi book called The Mars Project
  https://youtu.be/9y-erGt0LsU
  Asimov has too much empathy for Elmo
- He probably identifies with The Mule.
- Looks like his ketamine dealer has good stuff these days

I mean... There is a non-zero chance he might get Luigied....
- man i can only dream
- Poor term to use, since Luigi is an Elon fanboy.

So dragon slayer is a job now?

Is he still using his own child as a human shield?
- He probably forgot him somewhere again

It's wild to me how Musk is proving (just like Trump is) how fundamentally weak and small he is.
Fred Rogers never had to travel with a single bodyguard.

In the olden times, it was a big point of pride of American politics that a lot of people didn't want to kill the leaders. It was sort of assumed that in feudal style European politics, of course the common people kind of wanted to kill you, because you were threatening their safety and taking their stuff. In America, the way we did things was to earn the respect of the people you governed. The people actually wanted this person to be in charge. Why would I shoot that guy? That's who we picked, we like him.
Of course there are some caveats (slavery large among them). The reality never matched up to the ideal. But we're going back to where even the approximation of consent of the governed that we used to have, isn't assumed anymore. Fuckin bullshit

Is it fair to call someone who wants to kill the richest Nazi in the world, who wants to destroy western democracy and rule the world, a maniac?

It is good to know this guy is terrified of the consequences of his own actions. I'm sure his hired meat shield will stop and mitigate some threats. I doubt they will stop and mitigate them all.
- We should feed his paranoia. Everyone should start messaging him on Twitter warning him of the prospect of mosquito-sized suicide drone assassins. Warn him there are rumors that he is the target of a group developing this technology.
  Let's see if we can drive him truly mad. We'll turn him into a proper Howard Hughes in no time. He'll lock himself in a hermetically sealed bunker 24/7. And that's when the real demons kick in....
- Axiom of modern warfare, actually. Throw enough shit at a problem and it will stop being a problem.
  
  Modern warfare is surely more targeted? Precision strikes using overwhelming technical superiority. Throwing bodies at the problem is like WW1 warfare.

Capitalist scumbags live in golden prisons of their own making.
Meanwhile I can go almost anywhere on the planet alone without any major problems.
"Even if you win the rat race, you're still a rat."
- Yup.
  Being wealthy would be cool, but being a celebrity, a well known person. Nah dawg. Major pass on that shit.
  So many things you can't do anymore. Including basically all my favorite things. Sounds like a curse to me.

What's alarming to me is that this shows me they don't experience fear. It sounds like to them, it's an inconvenience.
So if they can't be motivated by fear, are they actually motivated by money?
I don't think so. I think they're motivated by power. Wealth has no meaning to them - you can observe the behaviors of a lot of them (with like extremely rare exceptions and they are usually the only ones not born into wealth) and they don't match up with enjoying life.
They don't seem to experience joy. So if they don't experience any emotion, that gives them a pretty concrete diagnosis of sociopathy doesn't it? So, we have the worst of the worst humans doing as much damage to the world as possible because they can't feel.
- Yeah, very concrete diagnosis of sociopathy. Except that diagnosis doesn't exist. Please, leave the diagnosis to professionals. Not knowing the correct name is the first sign you shouldn't be doing it.
  
  Antisocial personality disorder doesn't exactly roll off the tounge and not nearly enough people know what it refers to.

Imagine being such a loser that the only job you qualify for is taking a bullet for the worst member of the parasite class.

Not xSecurity?
- XeXuriXy
  
  X2AE, and sidareal

His own security agency - sounds like a new Wagner in the making
- Hopefully he dies in a similar fashion to Yevgeny.
- A super, poorly ran Wagner.
  
  So... Wagner?
- Or Blackwater/Xe/Academi/whatever the Eric Prince mob are called these days. Or, indeed, the mercenary firms of his dear old homeland.

Remember when UHC got shot, musk started using one of his children as a human shield. He would often hold the shield in front of him, Everytime he does a press release

Stalkers = women demanding child support.

Ohhh, poor baby. Maybe, this was entirely preventable? Just maybe?

Honestly If I had that much money, I would be doing much more stupid shit.
- I would hope and expect you aren't nearly as evil as a billionaire who can easily solve problems for pocket change but chooses not to.
  
  They said "stupid", not "evil"
  Although I'd argue that any billionaire not actively dumping the bulk of their wealth and influence to sort out world hunger, homelessness, and inequality is being evil.
- I would build homes, trains, bus lines, and green power.
  And also make sure the water fountains in the park actually work year round.
- I would buy Neuschwanstein and finish decorating it the way Ludwig wanted it.
- If that's not enough he will pick one of his 14 children as a human shield

20 bodyguards and 1 child human shield.

I don't think body guards are going to help when someone sends a swarm of drones his way.
- I’m shocked this hasn’t happened yet. All the pieces are there, but nobody has pulled the proverbial/literal trigger on it yet.
  
  DJI even removed the geofences with a firmware update like three days before the in auguration. I have no idea how we're still in this clown world either.
  
  He probably has an EMP gun or something that would just knock them out of the sky. One would also need to construct every piece of the drone themselves from scratch to avoid having parts traced. Ala, Luigi and his 3D printed gun. Just don’t travel or run errands with your 3D printer, your “Autonomous Drone Swarms for Dummies” book, or your manifesto on your person like some kind of cartoonishly stupid villain…

Good.
That means he's scared.
- 21 round magazine isn't so hard to find.

Ketamine is making him paranoid
- Nah. There are legit people out to get him. At least, there should be.
- And cocaine, I believe he consumes both,.with dashes of shrooms from time to time

Lmao Apartheid Clyde's gonna be upside down on a lamp post one day <3

How many guards?

Never more than 20.

I wonder how many body guards you have to hire until you start to think “hmm maybe if this many people wish me harm I must actually be being a dick, let’s change that!”
- To be fair, that's not very representative of anything. If enough people know you exist, you'll eventually get a death threat.

Good to see that Elmo lives in fear of consequences. I hope the cunt can't have a crap in peace. His body guards are on the wrong side of history, and ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Okay, I need 21 people...
- i mean, unless he's got something special it's five people on him at a time and logistics support, three shifts a day.
  
  Okay, I need 21 people...
- What if we just took out 1-2 body guards periodically, until nobody felt comfortable signing up to be his body guard?

it's almost like championing certain 'activists' and then being shocked when people don't like you is a predictable outcome. who'd have thought.

And that’s just to protect him from his kids.

Any history buffs?
Is there any similarities to Praetorian Guard with the rise of private security for these rich?
Like wasn't Rome at some point actually controlled by Praetorian Guards in secret because they were so powerful that the emperors couldn't defy them.
- In Musk's case they would be Pretorian Guards

To be honest as someone who works alongside these people occasionally: That's a rather small security detail and I know of people with far far less money that have bigger security details.
20 people is not even a close protection detail, a chase car and an advance party plus medics, even less so if you consider that some people will be off duty, etc.

All the top-of-the-billionaires do. Zuck, Gates, Bezos, all have 24/7 security. You can see them lurking around in many of the photos.
https://shikshanews.com/10-most-guarded-people-in-the-world-2019-trump-is-not-on-no-1/

I hope they're all as skillful and qualified as his DOGE goons.

To be fair, one could argue that that is a cherished Afrikaner cultural tradition.

Coward's gonna cow

That's what happens when you turn into a POS. Ask the politicians.

”Homicidal maniacs”? Do they need to be maniacs?
- Imagine if someone had travelled to the past to kill Hitler, failed, and then Hitler would include them in his speeches: "I already survived a homicidal maniac!".

According to my sources (hitman series) this is low

I mean, someone with a high capacity magazine could make short work of even 20 guys. And they aren't gonna be able to do shit against any kind of explosives.
If one of them can be turned, and someone from Musk’s own security team goes Luigi, they’d be a hero and every single authoritarian across the globe would suddenly come to fear their own security squad.
- I mean, someone with a high capacity magazine could make short work of even 20 guys.
  If they were a wizard who could magically appear within firing range, sure. But by then you're three layers deep into the Survivability Onion
  
  A big part of personal security is to never be somewhere that a guy who wants to kill you will also be. That means keeping your schedule unpredictable, your route clear, your mode of transportation discrete or otherwise unassailable, and your physical presence obscured to the outside world.
  Incidentally, in the last few years the FAA has made it much more difficult to track private aircraft.
  If one of them can be turned
  Strategically positioning all my guys