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Devastating

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How do you know those other planets don't all have 80-100 hour weeks? Maybe aliens are all more like ants or bees and just work non-stop. The reason they never stop here or answer our calls is because they're always at work. 🤷‍♂️
- it could also just be that their planet takes 3 years to orbit their sun and a day lasts 2 weeks, so the workweek could be like 560 hours over there
  
  Yea, but those 336 hour weekends though...
- I wonder if ants and bees get flooded with endorphins when they’re endlessly working so 80-100 hour weeks would be just fine for them. We’re apes, we’re supposed to eat berries and weird mushrooms and procreate in the forest, we’re not designed to work any harder than we have to to do those two things.

Native to this planet and have to pay yo live here.
This is some bullshit.
- At least the oxygen is free. For now.
  
  For now dot tee emm

United States of America is not a planet.
There are countries with both more and less work hours.
- Have you informed Kermit about this?
  
  What do you think their comment is doing? 😂
- I'm confused, what about this post makes it about USA? Surely (inb4 don't call me Shirley) there must be several countries with 40 hours work week.
- If counted by European standards, the US has a 35-hour work week. Americans are counting their five one-hour lunch breaks to arrive at the "office worker" schedule of 40 hours a week, 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday with a lunch break at 12:00 to 13:00
  
  I don't know if all european countries. But here the 30 minute break is also counted as work hours.
  
  Many, if not most, Americans are probably not being paid for that lunch break, and are in fact working 0800 to 1700 or something along those lines for an actual 40 hours. That's how it was for me the last regular "9-5" that I had 10 years ago, and I'm pretty sure things haven't gotten better since then.

People didn't end up with 40 hour work week, people fought to get it that low
- And in all honesty should have fought for a 4 day workweek right after.
- And, if you/OP want it to be less, you need to join / start / contribute to the labor movement and let everyone you meet in it know your new goal.
- And now we're on a speed run to prove that no victories are permanent.
  
  Yes. It's not a constant progress forward as some think but constant uphill battle with backsliding if you get too comfortable.

No, you have ended up in a country with 40 hours working week.
- In most countries it's a lot more. Throughout human history it has typically been a lot more.
  Getting the work day down to 8 hours required violent riots that resulted in bombs being thrown at the police and people being hanged after quick show trials. And even once the work day was reduced to 8 hours, it was a while before the work week was reduced to only 5 days. Interestingly, the US initially led the world in reducing the length of the work week. But, these days it has been completely captured by oligarchs and unions are the weakest of any country in the developed world, so it has fallen far behind on any kind of worker rights compared to the rest of the world.
  40 hours may feel like a lot, but throughout most of human history only working 40 hours was a privilege available only to the nobility. It's possible to get the 40 hours reduced even further in the US, but it will probably once again require massive demonstrations, and it seems unlikely that it will happen without violence and death.

You could have ended up on the one with the 84-hour workweek (12 hours a day, no day off) and with child labor... you know... the "good ole days" republicans want to take you back to by hook and by crook, and which the people of all ages have enabled, the old by batshit mental illness, the young by electoral defensive indifference. Soon enough you won't have time to navel gaze about how bad 40 is.

At least we don't have 3 suns in our solar system 🤷‍♂️
- I wish we did though
  
  For one, I wouldn't exist to suffer.
  But on the other hand, we wouldn't have video games and cats 😿
  
  I wonder how seasons and days would work? Would the suns be up at different times (sun 1 rises at 3 in the morning and sets at noon, sun 2 rises at 8 in the morning and sets at 1 in the afternoon, sun 3 rises at noon and sets at midnight?) or would they rise and set at the same time?
  
  You have a three-body problem with 2 stars orbiting eachother being insufficient?

And remember, we only need to produce 30% of what we are producing for everyone to live comfortably.
- But think of the shareholders, what happens if line doesn't go up
- IIRC that number was debunked.
  
  I'm rebunking it right now
- All it would take is not being human.

Crazy that we ended up at all, really

Let me introduce you to France and its 35h workweeks

Workers shall unite again
- Not unless tens of billions more people join unions.
  
  You're going to need a preeeeetty big baby boom and a few decades to do that.
  
  Otherwise we're not reducing working hours

Well, better than getting eaten up by Tyranids. Though this is so very arguable

It's not a function of space, but of time. Work load used to be significantly less in the medieval ages.
Modern work load is caused by progress and the high demand for human workforce that it brings with it.
- Work load used to be significantly less in the medieval ages.
  And even less in hunting/gathering times (probably). All the ethnographies we have of (formerly) extant hunter/gatherers show them basically not even working a part-time job. The !Kung-san of southern Africa were recorded as putting in an average of 17 hours a week of food-related work - and this was in a much sparser environment than what our ancient ancestors existed in.

What do you mean I haven't worked 40 hours a week for decades... I work 36 hours ( which is considered full time here) and I work for 4 days 9 hours a week, every Wednesday of.
Or its made by an American thinking America is the whole planet... 😇
- Americans count their lunch breaks as hours worked. The typical "office worker" schedule is 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday with a one hour lunch break from 12:00 to 13:00. This is 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week, but if you are not counting lunch breaks then it is 35 hours a week of actual "work".
  Or this comment is made by a European who wants to just diss Americans without realising this situation is largely the same in both places... 😇
  Edit: Since there appears to be some confusion here, if a worker had a working schedule of 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday with a one hour lunch break from 12:00 to 13:00, and you asked a European and an American how many hours a week this person works, the American would say 40 but the European would say 35.
  
  I think this would be news to most Americans.
  Americans count their lunch breaks as hours worked. The typical “office worker” schedule is 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday with a one hour lunch break from 12:00 to 13:00. This is 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week, but if you are not counting lunch breaks then it is 35 hours a week of actual “work”.
  
  Every salary job I've worked is 8 hours a day of work with a 1 hour unpaid lunch. So it's something like 08:00-17:00 or 09:00-18:00 as your work hours. That's what is called 40 hours a week around here. You could consider that 45 hours a week. As lunch is unpaid that's considered your time to do whatever you want including leaving the job site for that hour.
  Some shift-work places will do something like 09:00 to 17:00 with a paid 30 minute lunch. Since lunch is paid time, they can require you stay on the job site. This is isn't as common now as it used to be, but some places like factories that run a 24 hours a day schedule still do things like that.
  
  Then I never talked irl to a typical American with typical working hours. Next time I talk to them I tell them they are doing it wrong...

These living conditions were won with blood, sweat, and tears. They have been stripped away from us through deception, isolation, and manipulation. We can still make our lives better, it is going to require a lot of work and discomfort.

Nice

Could also be the one where the piggies have strap-ons
- Man, miss piggy would be a rough pegger. You just know she wouldn't be going easy on you.
  
  Kermit's butthole would look like Gonzo's beak after. And sound the same.
- Why a strap on when you got 6 fingers to a hoof.
- ai slop
  
  Wow nothing gets by you, huh.

Lmao, i find hilarious how first worlders cry about having worker rights, people used to work 16h a day, people still do in some places of earth, you live in comfort and wealth and is ridiculous your inhability to see it, your life is not perfect but oh boy is so so soooooo much better than the one of most humans on earth.
- Found the Corporate shill!
  
  Why does the corporate shill sound like an ml account?
- "It could always be worse" is an excuse to never improve things. What's really ridiculous is your inability to see how much of our productivity goes toward enriching a few and how easy it would be for them to give back tons of wealth they've taken from us and still live like kings, plus it would improve the conditions of those people working 16h a day because they're being exploited by the same wealthy class.
- Being called a corporate shill for pointing out the obvious. Lemmy moment.
- but oh boy is so so soooooo much better than the one of most humans on earth
  that's mostly because the US wouldn't stop bombing and overthrowing democratically elected governments in the rest of the world, tbh though
  
  overthrowing democratically elected governments
  Yes, like in my country!, we would have had 80 years of uninterrupted Democratic tradition by now if not for them.

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